PES 2019 Discussion Thread (PS4, XB1)

[Alx1234]

Can't you just change the cell to text format

makes sense yet TEXT gives lots of suboptions and none of them give the desired result.

I'm pretty sure excel used to be simpler because of less extensive options - I'm talking Office 97/2003 days.

Its a bit like PES - one could either get caught up in all the variables of ML/MC (i.e. google) or one could just play vanilla PES in Exhibition mode (i.e. come here and get a straight answer).

 

[PRO_TOO]

That's been my fear too; the sudden increase in tempo and one touch passing is eerily familiar and concerning. I hated how clean 2018 was.

@PRO_TOO I've recently started getting the hang of manual shooting. It was so frustrating lmao

I know. I was hitting them left and right producing throw ins for the opponent when targeting the goal.
Now it’s a joy. I love the low ones. Most of the time I try to hit em low and hard. Like them daisy cutters!!
Here and there I try to knock one in from outside the box with R2.
But yeah. I’ve been there. The learning curve is still a curve... don’t give up!! Keep it up!!

 

[aderow]

Oh don't worry I'm not giving up. The occasional mistake is actually refreshing. Even seeing the AI miss golden chances is pleasant. Makes it feel more realistic

 

[slamsoze]

So i am going on my Live Update database check. Some very essential transfers, nothing special. Unfortunately this week the time was more strict and this time except for KONAMI, i had to check my worksheet (myself) first, so i had only one new entry in ASIA section. To make people life better, as my personal excel was a little bit confusing with many details, i created a second shorted version with numbers, so if you are confused about a player in the short version you can navigate to the full version and check who is who.

1) Live Update check 28/02/2019 Short Version

2) Live Update check 28/02/2019 Full Version

 

[PRO_TOO]

Oh don't worry I'm not giving up. The occasional mistake is actually refreshing. Even seeing the AI miss golden chances is pleasant. Makes it feel more realistic

Good to read that.
But again. My mistakes are more random then the AI ones. AI mistakes have a tendency to go high (like the goals they score). I wish they got this sorted in 2020. Sure I want a lot to be polished or added in 2020. AI shot variety made the top 3 in my list!!

 

[rockstrongo]

Overall AI is shallow this year. There is not nearly enough long range shots, but its not only that. AI just looks for way into penalty area. There is no crosses and headers this year. I was glad at first, as crosses and headers were OP in 18 and it was one of the main ways of scoring goals, but they shouldnt remove them altogether.
We need more unpredictability from AI.

Nailed it!
That's why ,even if I'm enjoying my ML,my one and only game on Pes 18 last night felt so refreshing.
I couldn't really predict their moves like I can on 19

 

[slamsoze]

Nailed it!
That's why ,even if I'm enjoying my ML,my one and only game on Pes 18 last night felt so refreshing.
I couldn't really predict their moves like I can on 19

I was almost shocked the other day, when i was playing against BvB in my 2018 ML, when Mario Götze killed me with a long shot from +25m range. Although the whole build-up was a little bit script-driven crap, in order to equalize me (3-3), cause he received the ball from an one-touch back-heel from the CF, which had followed a 40m lofted through pass from BvB's CB before, it felt so refreshing. After me getting used to defending in PES 2019 mainly in the wings, i was really surprised watching the AI taking a shoot from such a position.
Despite all patches until now the attack pattern of the CPU is very limited.I would be surprised even if the AI "teleported" the ball from their defence, inside my goal post!

 

[rockstrongo]

I was shocked the other day, when i was playing against BvB in my 2018 ML, when Mario Götze killed me with a long shot from +25m distance. Although the whole build-up was a little bit script-driven crap to equalize me (3-3), cause he received the ball from an one-touch back-heel which followed a 40m lofted through pass before, it felt so refreshing. After me getting used to defending in PES 2019 mainly in the wings, i was really surprised watching the AI taking a shoot from such a position.

I bet you didn't see that coming right
I get what you mean Slamsoze.
When you're use to defend, play a certain way in 19 and then have a few games in 18,you really need to think differently.
I never thought Hellas Verona would do this Vs me

 

[Emroth]

If we only had graphics, animations, physics, fouls and injuries from 19 and AI from 18 it would be some game!
I was watching some Champions League final from Pes18 on youtube and some tricks from AI were amazeballs..

 

[rockstrongo]

If we only had graphics, animations, physics, fouls and injuries from 19 and AI from 18 it would be some game!
I was watching some Champions League final from Pes18 on youtube and some tricks from AI were amazeballs..

I think I'm taking a break from Pes 19,play some 18 (might do some editing) perhaps I get tired of it and return to 19 soon enough.
But my last 3-4 games (season 2 and first game on season 3) have been stale.

Pes 19 looks amazing,but I'm alright in the enhanced Xbox c version,looks pretty damn good.
Who knows,19 might feel great after a few games/seasons in 18

 

[slamsoze]

If we only had graphics, animations, physics, fouls and injuries from 19 and AI from 18 it would be some game!
I was watching some Champions League final from Pes18 on youtube and some tricks from AI were amazeballs..

Yes i realized that in my 2019 ML run, against FC Bayern München especially , as they are without ID since PES 2015. Until last year it was a pain in the @$$ cause of individuals like Alaba, A. Robben, Lewa, etc destroying me with their tricks, even the created ones like Ribery, K. Coman. In this year's ML, with the inferior AI, they are just a 5-star club with 9 random individuals and the only threat is the cynical Lewandowski, when he receives low crosses and sometimes Neuer, although he has positioning issues. In some of my counter attacks, his initial position is outside the 18 yards box for some reason. The created A. Robben, with same stats and traits from PES 2018, is just an other WF, nothing special.

 

[fregen]

Here and there I try to knock one in from outside the box with R2.
But yeah. I’ve been there. The learning curve is still a curve... don’t give up!! Keep it up!!

But that's not possible right? I mean, R2- shooting when on manual is fundamentally impossible. Or has something changed? Not having a dig mate, just wondering.

 

[Bond!JamesBond!]

Is it me or are the 2018 player models different and better than 2019 they did body scans in 2018. I wonder if Konami has two different PES versions they work on.

 

[rockstrongo]

After 4 great Games on Pes 18 tonight,and seeing animations/Ai unpredictability/and just a very different and great game,I'm closing down my Pes 19 gaming for a while.
Just very happy playing a very fun game.

 

[aderow]

Good to read that.
But again. My mistakes are more random then the AI ones. AI mistakes have a tendency to go high (like the goals they score). I wish they got this sorted in 2020. Sure I want a lot to be polished or added in 2020. AI shot variety made the top 3 in my list!!

Agreed. I hope one of the difficulties better replicates reality. Especially if they never go the slider route.

 

[Emroth]

After 4 great Games on Pes 18 tonight,and seeing animations/Ai unpredictability/and just a very different and great game,I'm closing down my Pes 19 gaming for a while.
Just very happy playing a very fun game.

Its quite insane, the whole Pes-Konami thing is beyond me.
I did the same. Installed fresh OF, updated everythang and started new ML on pes18.

Pes18 has a whole different feeling to it. Our player seems to be more aware of the ball. It doesnt feel like you are fighting controller to wake the muppets up and retrieve the ball. Its very responsive (bit too fast but hey) and most importantly - you dont know what AI will do. Its tougher, because you won't "crack" AI after a while and you won't be able to predict 98% of their moves.

But

Game is too clean. Few fouls here and there but nowhere near reality. No injuries.
And now the most annoying thing (had to play many matches to refresh it in my memory). High through balls are OP to bits.
Every now and again AI just sends an insane high ball and out of nowhere there is one striker few yards from our keeper not marked by anyone. And he scores. You cant defend it. You cant track AI players as you cant even see them. Out of nowhere there is this crazy long high ball and he is just there.

To summarise - im beginning to think its being done on purpose. They give us few things and plant some stinker in every version, so when the next comes out we are hoping that everything is fixed (coz it was just one or two stinkers, right? How hard is to fix this?). But next one has some other stinker lock and loaded, ready to annoy the shit out of us. And so we are buying it every year. Shiiiiiit...

 

[Gale Kast]

Everything that is wrong with Myclub for the past few years is in this one picture. Seriously just full of scummy cheap idiots doing this kind of crap. This needs sorting for next season without a doubt. Exploits exploits everywhere.

Edit: I should explain that this was at 2 star and his whole bench was white balls at a max of 53 rating.

 

[philla]

Its quite insane, the whole Pes-Konami thing is beyond me.
I did the same. Installed fresh OF, updated everythang and started new ML on pes18.

Pes18 has a whole different feeling to it. Our player seems to be more aware of the ball. It doesnt feel like you are fighting controller to wake the muppets up and retrieve the ball. Its very responsive (bit too fast but hey) and most importantly - you dont know what AI will do. Its tougher, because you won't "crack" AI after a while and you won't be able to predict 98% of their moves.

But

Game is too clean. Few fouls here and there but nowhere near reality. No injuries.
And now the most annoying thing (had to play many matches to refresh it in my memory). High through balls are OP to bits.
Every now and again AI just sends an insane high ball and out of nowhere there is one striker few yards from our keeper not marked by anyone. And he scores. You cant defend it. You cant track AI players as you cant even see them. Out of nowhere there is this crazy long high ball and he is just there.

To summarise - im beginning to think its being done on purpose. They give us few things and plant some stinker in every version, so when the next comes out we are hoping that everything is fixed (coz it was just one or two stinkers, right? How hard is to fix this?). But next one has some other stinker lock and loaded, ready to annoy the shit out of us. And so we are buying it every year. Shiiiiiit...

After all, PES2019 is still a lot more organic in terms AI play to me. The low cross behaviour is suboptimal, but not that brutal efficient and clinical as the PES2018 lob passes. If you defend properly and use a lot of player switching, you can see the AI unfold and use different ways on goal.

 

[fregen]

Did that survey and boy, they REALLY want you to like MyClub...

 

[Emroth]

After all, PES2019 is still a lot more organic in terms AI play to me. The low cross behaviour is suboptimal, but not that brutal efficient and clinical as the PES2018 lob passes. If you defend properly and use a lot of player switching, you can see the AI unfold and use different ways on goal.

Not many different ways tho, phil.
On 18, in one evening, I've seen AI tricks, solo runs, shots from all sorts of ranges and angles. I really didnt know what they will do next.
On 19 they have more or less one agenda - pass into the box and tap in.
It feels fantastic on the ball, but couple of season on 19 can get a bit tedious..

 

[hitmanuk]

Regarding the AI trying to score tap ins i think the last patch has amplified it more again - i have pretty much seen what it offers from a single player mode now. I am back to FIFA now with sliders as for all its faults i like the AI variation

 

[rockstrongo]

Its quite insane, the whole Pes-Konami thing is beyond me.
I did the same. Installed fresh OF, updated everythang and started new ML on pes18.

Pes18 has a whole different feeling to it. Our player seems to be more aware of the ball. It doesnt feel like you are fighting controller to wake the muppets up and retrieve the ball. Its very responsive (bit too fast but hey) and most importantly - you dont know what AI will do. Its tougher, because you won't "crack" AI after a while and you won't be able to predict 98% of their moves.

But

Game is too clean. Few fouls here and there but nowhere near reality. No injuries.
And now the most annoying thing (had to play many matches to refresh it in my memory). High through balls are OP to bits.
Every now and again AI just sends an insane high ball and out of nowhere there is one striker few yards from our keeper not marked by anyone. And he scores. You cant defend it. You cant track AI players as you cant even see them. Out of nowhere there is this crazy long high ball and he is just there.

To summarise - im beginning to think its being done on purpose. They give us few things and plant some stinker in every version, so when the next comes out we are hoping that everything is fixed (coz it was just one or two stinkers, right? How hard is to fix this?). But next one has some other stinker lock and loaded, ready to annoy the shit out of us. And so we are buying it every year. Shiiiiiit...

I got hit a few times by high through balls,and it's a bummer that those happen,but still taking that Vs the low ball in to the box and Mr sleepy -sleepy in my defence not being able to sort it.

For me those balls hasn't been unfair and out of the blue,trying to defend them that's a different story,but one eye in the radar and you're seeing them coming

 

[aderow]

Did that survey and boy, they REALLY want you to like MyClub...

Lmao you're right mate. One page I'm saying I don't play myclub whatsoever, the very next page the survey is asking how come I won't play myclub.

Between that and the fact the home screen only has things relates to myclub (you no longer can pin your favorite modes there) it has me very irritated at how much Konami is pushing this mode.

And @Emroth that was exactly my problem with 2018; game felt great on the ball but otherwise everything about it was too clean. Every pass, tackle, header, shot had laser guided precision. Combined with the one touch tiki taka and backheel nonsense the AI was constantly doing, I got tired of it.

 

[Chris Davies]

Did that survey and boy, they REALLY want you to like MyClub...

Just replace the ball with a moneybag...

 

[Emroth]

- gimme that, what is this??
- its my favourite book, mommy. I grew up reading it.
- so you wont go to play with others?
- not really, no..
- what if I ripped some pages?? Still having fun??
- why would you do this?? It was perfect.
- go and play with other kids!
- but im happy here..
- im gonna rip so many pages that it will just be covers and empty inside!
- but why?! Some kids like just to read books on their own!
- what if I gave you this Legendary collection of toy soldiers.......?
- can you fix my book please..?
- ..so you not gonna play with other kids.
- ..no..
- why..?
- please.. can you fix my book, please?
- i'll take your feedback and talk to daddy about it.

 

[Thiago Maycon]

Did anyone call ps4 or XOne and repair a 29GB update on Thursday? Because 29 GB is a complete game and I have not seen any messages on Konami social networks saying about this update

 

[Kunio_Kun]

I don't know what's general consensus about Pes 19 but ı am having so much fun with this year's game.Last Pes ı enjoyed was Pes 15.This year ı am playing Pes more than Fifa which is unusual for me.Game looks and plays beautiful on my One X and online connection quality is better than ever for me.If only Xbox one has option files

 

[Emroth]

I don't know what's general consensus about Pes 19 but ı am having so much fun with this year's game.Last Pes ı enjoyed was Pes 15.This year ı am playing Pes more than Fifa which is unusual for me.Game looks and plays beautiful on my One X and online connection quality is better than ever for me.If only Xbox one has option files

Online is a whole different story. Unfortunately most of us are old grumpy bastards, who just play offline. So we just spend time drinking and moaning mostly..

 

[Turdi182]

I don't know what's general consensus about Pes 19 but ı am having so much fun with this year's game.Last Pes ı enjoyed was Pes 15.This year ı am playing Pes more than Fifa which is unusual for me.Game looks and plays beautiful on my One X and online connection quality is better than ever for me.If only Xbox one has option files

Yes online on full manual its really fun as almost everyone plays with lower teams. I. Also already have over 200 online games which is unusual for me. The last Pes I played that much was Pes 13.
My biggest wishes for Pes 20 are goals from distance !!! (have scored like 4 or 5 in 200 games and don't even try it anymore)
Better player ID and less CPU defensive help. Defense is too easy when you just have to press x. It's really overpowered this year. Otherwise it's a great game. Oh and finally better menus of course!!!!

 

[PRO_TOO]

Online is a whole different story. Unfortunately most of us are old grumpy bastards, who just play offline. So we just spend time drinking and moaning mostly..

Next time we’ll have a discord chat!!
“PES Pub”!