PES 2017 PlayStation & Xbox Discussion Thread

Adam Bhatti confirmed via Twitter that we will be able to add more kits to licensed teams in PES 2017 (via batch file). A 3rd or 4th kit for example.

Does anyone have any idea how this will work? I mean, how will we define the shirt collor, shorts collor. etc...

He said that there will be a video soon to explain the whole process, I think..
 
steveee said:
maybe I'm just use to it then and have gotten better at manual since I played like that on 2016. but to me the manual passing seems easier than 2016... don't you agree? the shooting is about the same.. I am not saying it's easy but I have scored some wonderful goals using manual shooting in the PES 2017 demo already that seem I could never do in PES 2016 on manual. I would miss the target far to often on for sure goals on manual in 2016. Maybe my aim is just better but I doubt it

pass assist 1 is way to much assistance regardless.. I know that for sure
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I think we needed to up our game cos the demo is difficult when you play it first and while doing that needed to improve our passing and shooting. . .I don't know about the passing being easier . .it needs to be more pacey as the demo is quicker than pes 2016 . .Im finding manual shooting on Superstar quite difficult although it depends on which teams you play. . . or simply put you're probably a better player than I am.
 
steveee said:
i agree for the most part... I can't wait to see what it's like to play against another human in this game as I haven't yet. but I do wish that konami would do one of these things for the final release of the game

a)make pass assist 1 which is default more difficult
or
b)force everyone to use manual pass for myclubs or divs online

other than that.. I don't think they should change anything as far as gameplay ..
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There surely is a pass filter for myclub isn't it?

Anyone here who played PES 2016 online manual?
Is it hard to find players using PA0?

Bond!JamesBond! said:
yes, this is a way for the AI to beat you to the ball and it's annoying:RANT:
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Yeah man, thx for confirming.
That's really ugly
 
steveee said:
i agree for the most part... I can't wait to see what it's like to play against another human in this game as I haven't yet. but I do wish that konami would do one of these things for the final release of the game

a)make pass assist 1 which is default more difficult
or
b)force everyone to use manual pass for myclubs or divs online

other than that.. I don't think they should change anything as far as gameplay ..
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I hear you,doesn't affect me,I play manual,and never online.
But yeah In that perspective,i understand you
 
Deco said:
I think we needed to up our game cos the demo is difficult when you play it first and while doing that needed to improve our passing and shooting. . .I don't know about the passing being easier . .it needs to be more pacey as the demo is quicker than pes 2016 . .Im finding manual shooting on Superstar quite difficult although it depends on which teams you play. . . or simply put you're probably a better player than I am.
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Since I haven't played that many games (I'm killing my darling for the 15th) I'm having trouble on Top Player Dec,and passing is quite tough,when did we stop playing 16? like a week and half ago,passing feels much tougher on 17.
It's going to be a tough ML
 
rockstrongo said:
Since I haven't played that many games (I'm killing my darling for the 15th) I'm having trouble on Top Player Dec,and passing is quite tough,when did we stop playing 16? like a week and half ago,passing feels much tougher on 17.
It's going to be a tough ML
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Yeh I was talking to one of the guys about that ... it's gonna be a much tougher game to play Rock, me auld flower .. .have to say though I did enjoy the Ml adventures a few weeks ago ... . this new game looks something special judging by the demo .. I'm ok with the passing but I'm finding scoring tough on Superstar against the better teams which is not a bad thing .. .the 15th can't come quick enough.
 
Deco said:
Yeh I was talking to one of the guys about that ... it's gonna be a much tougher game to play Rock, me auld flower .. .have to say though I did enjoy the Ml adventures a few weeks ago ... . this new game looks something special judging by the demo .. I'm ok with the passing but I'm finding scoring tough on Superstar against the better teams which is not a bad thing .. .the 15th can't come quick enough.
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Its going to be a fierce campaign,and stepping away from the demo for a few days...I got blown away playing it again.
The variety of CPU gameplay is stunning.
Yup,ordered a hard copy,in case the DLC F---- up then is offline in the bunker for me and me Xbox.
Acctually started checking out tactics for different teams already.
Need to get a head start on you pal
 
rockstrongo said:
Its going to be a fierce campaign,and stepping away from the demo for a few days...I got blown away playing it again.
The variety of CPU gameplay is stunning.
Yup,ordered a hard copy,in case the DLC F---- up then is offline in the bunker for me and me Xbox.
Acctually started checking out tactics for different teams already.
Need to get a head start on you pal
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Lol! We shall see.
 
Sorry ich schreibe hier auf deutsch, weil mein englisch miserabel ist, wäre sehr nett wenn es hier einer übersetzen könnte.

Als erstes wollte ich sagen die Demo ist überragend, es ist mit abstand der beste Ableger seit der Ps2 Versionen. Der Refree echt Top, endlich mal ziemlich gut.

Ich habe Heute ziemlich lang gespielt denke so ca. 4 stunden, meine Einstellungen: schwierigkeitsgrad: Superstar, Speed:0, Passstufe 1 und Schiessen auf Einfach. Wichtig Emotionen auf aus stellen also ohne Emotionen spielen, weil ich finde das es so richitig ist und nicht irgendwelche Spieler unrealistisch überdrehen.

Als Mannschaft habe ich mir Atletico Madrid genommen, bei den Gegnern habe ich nach der Reihe von oben nach unten abwechselnd gespielt, aber erst den nächsten Gegner genommen bis ich gewonnen hatte.

So was ich damit sagen will, der schwächste Gegner ist der Fc Barcelona, habe sogar extra zwei Matches hintereinander gemacht weil ich es nicht glauben konnte, wie schwach sie waren, habe sie glatt mit 2-0 und 0-2 besiegt, einmal zuhause und einmal in Barcelona. Ich weiss nicht an was das liegt aber die hatten mich am wenigstens gefordert.

Die anderen Teams sind okay, öfters unendschieden gespielt und ein oder zwei ausrutscher gehabt, aber sonst auch immer souverän gewonnen.

Wenn ihr aber auf Superstar eine richtige Herausforderung wollt, vergisst alle Teams besonders den Fc Barcelona als Gegner und nimmt den FC Arsenal als Gegner.

Aber Barca als Gegner eine Katastrophe,das muss sich in der Vollversion aufjedenfall ändern, ich weiss es nicht ob es an Ateltico Madrid lag, weil mit anderen Teams habe ich Heute nicht gespielt gegen Barca.

Auf jedenfall was ich sagen wollte, probiert es Bitte mal aus gegen den FC Arsenal zu Spielen, verdammte Scheisse die beste AI gegen die ich gespielt habe. Die Attackieren dich non stop, du hast kein Platz zum atmen, kluge spielzüge, wenn du zu Offensiv bist, Kontern sie dich sofort aus. Ich habe glaube ich von 6 Spielen Heute, das letzte gewonnen und das mit mühe und not, in der 94 Minute habe ich das 1-0 geschossen. Es war richtig packend und erfrischend und das schönste war, es hat sich richtig echt angefühlt, nicht so gescript, sie haben jedesmal anders agiert, kein Tiki Taka die ganze Zeit.

Ich hoffe Konami wird es von der Schwierigkeit her auch auf die anderen Teams übertragen, weil der Fc Arsensal spielt eigentlich von der schwierigkeit her wie der Fc Barcelona in real, also sehr schwer zum besiegen, probiert es Bitte aus, habe wie gesagt den Test mit Atletico Madrid gemacht.


Plays please against the Fc Arsenal on difficult superstar , if you will have a hard time just unbelievable strong, the other teams are very weak against .
 
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This is the first half of one of my manual matches on gamespeed 0, professional level, PAoff, basic shooting, 10 min.!
I'm not the best player so please forgive me. :)
 
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gabe.paul.logan said:
this is the all u not gonna have in the PC version video :P :PIG:


cool vid btw
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4K, Stadiums, faces, Chants, Addboards and mods. Unless some people play the game zoomed in I think were alright. But yea it does look beautiful in that video. PS4 for against friends online, PC for Masterleague. Roll on the 15th

 
As Matt10 and many other has talked about it is very unfortunate the way the attacking/defending mentality works. As soon as the AI loses possession it automatically is on defence no matter what opposition they are facing. That has been talked about and hopefully it is fixed in the full game.

However, when I played France vs France they were on attacking mentality when they didn't have the ball and defensive mentality when they had the ball?!?! Weird to say the least...
 
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PES 2017 presentation in Chile


final version with Chilean commentators 2vrs 2


Goals Final Versión 2 vrs 2 (Robbye Ron/Andre Bronzoni vrs Taya San Konami /Rodrigo Barrera Chilean champion PES League)

 
chiefrocka4real said:
There surely is a pass filter for myclub isn't it?

Anyone here who played PES 2016 online manual?
Is it hard to find players using PA0?



Yeah man, thx for confirming.
That's really ugly
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No not really, the manual community grew a lot during PES 2016 since PA 1 were so assisted (it's slightly better in 2017 demo but still to assisted imo). Of course u get to wait a couple of minutes from time to time to find someone but I Always get a matc (unless u play sunday mornings or whatever...;). I'm speaking of Online Divisions now cos I don't Think there are any filters for MyClub, at least not in PES 2016.

Another plus is that people playing manual seem to pick lesser teams more often which is fun. :)
 
yeah i played 5 games on superstar yesterday and only scored 1 goal. stark contrast to when i first played it and didn't face any challenge from the AI.
 
Deco said:
They're making out that the demo was somehow tweaked or updated.
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No chance without having to download an update for the demo, they can't "sneak" code onto your console, there's a whole process with both Sony and Microsoft (certification - it was my job not that long ago) and they wouldn't let that happen. Absolutely not.

The only explanation for anything changing is the "adaptive AI" stuff, but without specifics, it's difficult to monitor what that's doing exactly.
 
nice new layout!! i like the fresh look wich fits perfectly PES2017's fresh take on gameplay this year!
second part of my manual match is coming up tonight. if you havent seen part1 check it out here again:
[youtube]ps: had to relink/embed correctly!
 
Chris Davies said:
No chance without having to download an update for the demo, they can't "sneak" code onto your console, there's a whole process with both Sony and Microsoft (certification - it was my job not that long ago) and they wouldn't let that happen. Absolutely not.

The only explanation for anything changing is the "adaptive AI" stuff, but without specifics, it's difficult to monitor what that's doing exactly.
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I see it like this, you play a new football game fro the first time, you learn it and you learn a way to score and you score. You try do the same thing every game because that's how you've learn't to score. But it can't work over and over in ever match in PES2017 cos the AI adapt to the way you play on the fly.

You have to keep on reinventing your play. it's got nothing to do with game updates.
 
Chris Davies said:
No chance without having to download an update for the demo, they can't "sneak" code onto your console, there's a whole process with both Sony and Microsoft (certification - it was my job not that long ago) and they wouldn't let that happen. Absolutely not.

The only explanation for anything changing is the "adaptive AI" stuff, but without specifics, it's difficult to monitor what that's doing exactly.
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Well this is coming from Matt and a few others on WENb not me. . . ..Matt pointed out a few faults and now those faults are gone .. .don't shoot the messenger.
 
what they are saying on WENB is impossible.

who knows why things seem different every time you play it but one thing is for sure, it's very refreshing!
 
Deco said:
Well this is coming from Matt and a few others on WENb not me. . . ..Matt pointed out a few faults and now those faults are gone .. .don't shoot the messenger.
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Wasn't my intention, sorry!

Just saying, there's 100% no way they can change the code without the changes going through Sony / MS, they lock it down.
 
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