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Jamezinho said:
Better times. There is something to be said for going into a game completely blind and forming your own opinions.
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Not completely blind. In sports games you have the preview years games as a base for the new game, i think we just have to trust that they are going to deliver a good product, and if they delivery a bad product we can simply stop buying it. For me it´s just like when you go see a movie from a director that you like, or a CD of a band you love, you don´t need previews for that, right?

Now some people here hate PES since PES2008, and i ask myself why they keep coming back? If someone hates PES 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 why the hell he thinks he´s gonna enjoy the 2014 version? For me they are fooling themselves, but maybe they like to be fooled... :P
 
_anderson said:
Someone already answered that question.
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About what?
Asim's impressions?

I am not saying he is not credible, i'm saying that his impressions are his impressions, not mine.

Yes, he is a lot more credible than KONAMI paid reviewers, but it doesn't mean his impressions are spot on because he is a true Pes fan and honest.
 
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Calm down Ameppe, your reaction to my post was a litle bit silly. i've never spoken about the new engine. I never had any expectations. Not that i'm a rich man, but i have enough money to buy both PES and FIFA and i will see which is the best game and play that most frequently.

Perhaps Asim is disappointed because over all the hype: he expected too much. If you hype a game like Konami and that silly boy Bhatti do, then you are bound to get disappointment from the customers.
 
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Asim posted what he thought. It's his right. That's the whole point of a preview code. He wanted to go deeper unlike many others. Bhatti's only interested in people that make him King Bhatti.
 
Everyone, remember it's ok to criticize, no insults.

Feel bad for Asim. He should've known posting that on WENB wasn't going to go easy.

I'm not reading any of these previews. Forming my own opinion as usual, bad or good.
 
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Lami said:
Everyone, remember it's ok to criticize, no insults.

Feel bad for Asim. He should've known posting that on WENB wasn't going to go easy.

I'm not reading any of these previews. Forming my own opinion as usual, bad or good.
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Thats where it gets me.

We shouldn't have to feel bad for a guy who is only expressing his views, no matter how right or wrong he may be.
 
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The PES 2014 Preview Tour: try the Konami title from 1 to 7 August throughout Italy

Directly by Konami and in collaboration with Halifax, we inform you that in August, from 1 to 7, you can get your hands on preview of one of the most anticipated calcisitici sports games: PES 2014 .

The title will be available in some stores GameStop, Media World and Saturn only for a few days. In those days you will have a chance to test in preview the new PES 2014 and touch what has been done with this new edition. To find out the full list of outlets that adhere to the initiative, please visit this page:

http://www.halifax.it/best/PES2014/Preview_Tour_PES2014.htm
 
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Wow ... Even the recommended settings aren't that demanding in terms of GPU, this is very good news. A lot more people will be able to play PES 2014, next year should be different though.
 
If I was playing devil's advocate, the only thing Asim could possibly have done differently from Konami's perspective while still explaining how he genuinely feels was give a bigger disclaimer about the version of the game he was playing. He does mention it's preview code and that it's the least advanced version he's ever played, but then doesn't really bring that into perspective as he went on to make the various critical points in his post. You forget that he's made that point as you read the rest of the post, and one could argue that Konami might feel aggrieved that he didn't really allow enough for that as he explained his concerns.

The question is whether he'd have received the same treatment if he'd made this more explicit...
 
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Asim's done his part. He shall feel no guilt and by the looks of it, he isn't. There's nothing to feel bad about but Konami should really consider Adam's post as community manager.
 
What build will the demo be based on ? I hope it's the version where the major things have been worked on otherwise from Asim's write up (fair play to him for telling things like he sees them) it's really worrying stuff.
Hopefully Adam was right about the things that Asim mentioned being worked on in their latest version but I'm a point where no write up, no impressions will change my mind, it's all about the demo now for me.
 
Maybe it's because Asim emphasized on the negative parts and left out all the good.
 
Preview code sounded good but again the area where keepers are involved worries me as it has done for this whole gen.

Keepers not agressive enough and not making enough saves. Now animations wise it sounds like they are good. I really pray that konami get the keepers reactions and agression right.

Keepers is what i base my buy on with pes as i play alot of single player.
 
Lami said:
Maybe it's because Asim emphasized on the negative parts and left out all the good.
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He spoke about the good in the E3 impressions write-up. He didn't speak much about the Windsor build and now when he had the time to invest in this preview code, he voiced his negative opinion and was immediately bashed because of it...
 
im glad asim brang out the negative points, that way konami now will have to lift there game to make sure those glitches arent in the final product, cause im starting to get god dam tired of bloody bugs in the final game, we need people like asim, no disrespect to bhatti but his the total opposite which is why we get a game full of bugs once its released.
 
Nik said:
He spoke about the good in the E3 impressions write-up. He didn't speak much about the Windsor build and now when he had the time to invest in this preview code, he voiced his negative opinion and was immediately bashed because of it...
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Yea. Was thinking maybe if he mentioned all the good of this code along with the negatives it would've been "easier" on him.

Maybe not though. Not giving excuses her too.
 
What would be Asim's reasons to give a Negative Review other than what he really felt?.
I mean, it's not like KONAMI payed every one who wrote Reviews except Asim, and so he's fed up or felt left out, so he goes on to strike Konami's game and give them some bad publicity for not paying him.

He played an early code of the game and just like everyone else who had the chance to test the game, wrote a review. The only difference is that to everybody else the game is a fairy tale, and it's like having casual sex with Megan Fox, but to Asim the game has flaws. Flaws that could prevent gamers like him (and us) to actually enjoy the good parts.And he felt he needed to express them in order for Konami to fix them as soon as possible.

Now, I'm not saying we MUST BELIEVE in Asim OR Adam. I don't care about them. But it is true that both opinions seem biased. Asim's review seem biased because he didn't say a single good thing about the game, while others have their mouth full with just positive thing. And Adam's opinion seem biased because..... well, you know.

Still, I think Adam's attitude is wrong. And that thanks to him Asim's opinion got the spotlight all to himself. Adam made that spotlight shine on him. Otherwise Asim's review could have gone unnoticed. So Konami should kick Adam's ass for not being diplomatic enough and for shedding some light on something that it would have been better to let pass by.
 
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Now, I'm not saying we MUST BELIEVE in Asim OR Adam. I don't care about them. But it is true that both opinions seem biased. Asim's review seem biased because he didn't say a single good thing about the game, while others have their mouth full with just positive thing.
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Lami said:
Yea. Was thinking maybe if he mentioned all the good of this code along with the negatives it would've been "easier" on him.

Maybe not though. Not giving excuses her too.
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How was it all negative?

I read it and he did point out some positives. Asim was however more focused on the area's he felt needed konamis attention.

He just mentioned what he felt needed to be improved for the final product.

The idea of the preview codes and earlier codes is for that very reason.

Report back to konami on the issues he felt needs addressing for final code.
 
Just trying to find a good reason for them jumping him like that.

Not that I approve of it, obviously. This should actually help them.

What I meant is, if this was fed back directly to them and not posted publicly, it would've been treated as bug feedback etc. But because it was posted to the public, maybe they wanted it to be emphasized on all the good things and new features it has, in addition to mentioning the concerns, like some of the other write-ups out there.
 
An unbiased opinion is an oxymoron anyway. In fact, i am going to say that most impressions about any game is honest; its nature depends on how the writers bias is effected by the hype, expectations, research, word of mouth etc; all part of the enviroment. We are gonna get the demo in a 2 or 3 weeks anyway, yet we get this massive overreaction. Remember when some people here didn't trust any wenb impressions last time no matter if it was wrote by asim; and yet right now they actually think it is the only honest article simply because it is negative; abit hypocritical don't you think?

Despite knowing its flaws, i think dragon dogma is the best fantasy rpg thie generation; simply because all those annoyance in the game are simply niggles that never really outweigh the great combat, class and pawn system. I never really liked skyrim, always thought to be full of bugs, combined with poor story and combat: yet i can't deny that is has the most immersive open world; which for some people outweigh any flaws of the game. The fact is all opinions are subjective; and no, the gaming companies did not buy off all of the positive writers; and no, they are not lying through their teeth.

Adam is being such a d**k on twitter though, never really liked his atitude; contrary on how many people like to throw the 'subjective opinion' wildcard around; he is being exactly like those hyprocrits that never really accepted differing opinions.
 
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