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Official PES Twitter account just asked about predictions for French and German league, which both are going to start this weekend. Is this maybe a sign for a German league without correct names? :P

No its an honest question, its also cringeworthy that they can't publicly say Bundesliga or Ligue 1.
 
I wonder if Konami will release another full set of stadia for one of their licenced leagues, as they did last year with La Liga?

A full Ligue Un stadium pack would be fantastic.
 
They are trying their best to make us worry about the game even before we played it with their silence. Good work, KONAMI!
 
Would be cool if they added some unlicensed leagues with fake teams but real players for some other leagues like the Bundesliga etc.

Konami cant really be excused for limitations on the engine anymore so stuff like 32 players maximum per team for example, you should be able to have a lot more than that, slots for 40-45 players per team would be good in my opinion. There are teams in Italy that have like 40 players in their squad.

Also, Konami have no excuses not to add in a decent loan system, or a player + cash type transfer in ML. Also being given an option to extend the loan of a player who you have taken on loan for the season. Or, if you loan out a player for the season and you have an injury crisis you should be able to contact the club you loaned the player to and ask for the player to be returned to the club, or it should be a clause in the deal.

Would be pretty cool and make ML more interesting. I'm hoping we dont get the repetition that we do with Football Life at the moment, that same cutscene with the text all the time..
 
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Well only sort of podcast i've seen is this one with suffwan which i'm sure is the one which was mentioned few weeks back.

wasnt that one (i listened to it already). couple of weeks ago i think adam said a podcast with him and some other konami people would be out, can't remember the specifics
 
wasnt that one (i listened to it already). couple of weeks ago i think adam said a podcast with him and some other konami people would be out, can't remember the specifics

No Idea really, be interesting to see if that podcast does go ahead before release.
 
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Why cant Konami make realistic looking keeper gloves, they have never managed it.

-_- those gloves look close to real ones, take alook at other buffon pick where he is saving ball or other keepers. Some people r never happy at anything at all, always finding little mistakes or trying to create one.

Edit: BTW does anyone really take big notice of gloves or am I the only one who dont care even if they gave keepers Carboardboxes for gloves?
 
You, and mostly everyone else, are talking about a mayor problem without even realising it: how easy it is to pass the ball all the way from one goal to another in PES.

Imho, your error is to blame the passing assistance for that problem, when it's more about the flawed positional layouts that allows free passing.
In other words, you blame it purely on the accuracy and excessive assistance (training wheels) of the ball passer, but the problem actually roots on the freedom of the receiver.
I'm not saying it's ok for all passes to reach their destination. I'm saying that, TACTICALLY, PES makes everthing it can to ensure your passes will success, independently of the level of assistance. This gives us the illusion that all assisted passes are perfect because the passer is heavily aided, when actually the receivers are.

To think that this can be solved by implementing a better passing system is reckoning half of the problem.


Really, really SPOT ON, one of the few posts I've read here that spots one of the most important problems of the game. Something that's more important that any shiny new rendering engine or ankle tapes. This is of the utmost importance, but Konami hasn't done anything in years about it.

I've been saying the same for ages. For instance, when the opponent is pressing on your half and you start a counter you can ALWAYS pass straight to your strikers, they will be absolutely free of mark near the halfline, and even if you only have 1 striker up, he will receive totally free. 5 meters away there can be 4 defenders not anticipating the move, not pressing him, doing nothing. This totally breaks the idea of positional play and favours counters and counter-counters all the time. And it makes ACCURACY to be much higher than it should, specially in the midfield.

There is as well not enough context on the "passer" of the play: vision practically means nothing as any player can pass to players he would hardly see in real life, when you're pressed or pushed or there's contact passing with an average player should have a LOT more error, and 180º turns shouldn't practically exist... but it's far worse on the other side of the play! There is practically NO CONTEXT AT ALL in the receiver.

In real life if you pass the ball to a striker who has defenders around him the most probable thing, EVEN IF THE PASS IS PERFECT, is that defenders will push the receiver, or try to unbalance him, or foul him. For example: how many times we see an incredibly gifted player like Neymar receive with a defender kicking his ankles from behind? I've never seen that in PES. Truly shocking. We're talking about fundamentals of the play!

That's because the AI managing the positional play is absolutely primitive and hasn't changed in a decade. And all this "new engine" talk is crap if they don't take a new approach on things like this. And they haven't.

Depends how long the match is and the tactics of both teams.

It's easier to pass to your strikers on 10 minutes compared to 30.

try it. You see who it makes sense to have action in 10 minutes to allow some chances and filter out the game depending on the time limit.

This is something people don't really explore.
 
I do not want to be pessimistic

besides new graphics engine, that makes you think that this will be the perfect game?
Six years of promises, promises .. now new graphics engine and no excuses, even though there are things that seem recycled from previous engine ..just some
hope I'm wrong, and konami shut my mouth .. and believe again

But is not the same boss who create PES! :FAIL:
The old boss when i saw her face on PES 2013 i read her eyes.
"I'm Tired to make requests, and things i can´t promisse"
I read is mine like that.
Now we have Fox Engine, please don´t compared to the oldest PES.
They can´t send the demo because they are more worried adding new contracts to make PES bigger and realistic to play new Tournaments. :))
They promisse, i don´t see KONAMI's official website open their mouth telling us the date of the demo.
The website is Down, will be up soon.
 
Im not bothered about the demo as it plays so much better than the release code like the last few games.
 
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Depends how long the match is and the tactics of both teams.

It's easier to pass to your strikers on 10 minutes compared to 30.

try it. You see who it makes sense to have action in 10 minutes to allow some chances and filter out the game depending on the time limit.

This is something people don't really explore.

Yeah but playing a match for 30 minutes, I mean come on. It's too long for me.
 
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