PES 2013 Discussion Thread

xPJRx said:
Gonna have to go against the status quo here and say I'm not seeing ANY changes whatsoever in patch 1.03.
Its the first patch I can remember from Konami where they have actually detailed game play tweaks and not left it to peoples imaginations and placebo's to dream up changes, so was expecting to see some hard evidence, but i dont, at all.

Konami actually stated that they have tweaked form, well bollocks. I am STILL seeing ridiculous swings in form arrows for players, Bancé my CF scored 5 goals in an 8-1 drubbing of Everton, then next match, purple arrow.
Europa League game, needed a win to go through as group winners, on the back of 4 straight wins in the premier league, suddenly 8 of my starting 11 are blue or purple arrows.... nothing has changed here at all.
Cant really comment on improved player runs and positioning as I didnt have any problem with this before the patch, players still arent as active as they should be ie, a CF looing to hang off the last defenders heels, arching runs, stopping, checking, dropping back for a pass, this is all still missing, was before patch and is after patch.

Gfx look exactly the same, in fact i really am wondering if patch 1.03 was a placebo experiment by Konami because one of the key changes as documented, form, simply hasn't changed.

Now if you have to start a new ML for these patch changes to kick in then to me that is the most non-sensical decision ever because over 3 months after the game has released and 9 seasons into ML, with dozens and dozens of hours of invested game play, I am NOT going to be starting over just to use a patch.

Still loving My ML and the game in general but was seriously excited for this patch, but for me nothing has changed at all.
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There is nothing in what they use to work out form that looks at previous performance. It's random. What they have done is tweaked it to be slightly less likey to give such bad form for all players when playing away.
 
Got PES 2013 for christmas today loving it but there's one big huge problem... stepovers, matthews feints and a couple other moves won't work for me, in 2012 every move i could activate easily. Do i have a setting set wrong?
It's crazy i don't get it, maybe i have a bad copy and need to take it back. Anybody else have this problem? it's really ruining the game for and i've been looking forward to this day all year.
For example if i move right stick in motion to stepover right foot while stationary I can but I can't if I motion left foot while stationary, matthews feint side step example i'll move right stick up and hold, move left stick down and controlled player will just move regular with out performing the feint I don't get it, in 2012 he'll execute the move every single time. I can't pull moves off easily like i could in 2012 and it's very dissapointing. at this point i have to say 2012 is better in a user friendly way until i can solve this problem. Any body have any suggestions?
 
I'm playing the demo 2 of PES 2013 on xbox360 a lot lately, even though I have the full version on my mac mini, cause I have some heavy work to do with the mac mini so I can't use it right now for playing in my living room.

I guess despite for the modding-advantages on PC for the next game I'll buy the console-version again, as it's indeed of advantage to have a machine for playing and one for working or you have two computers.

The reason I'm posting now is that I want to confirm what someone posted here a while ago:

Setting the tactical offense/defense-option on defensive considerably changes the gamepace for the better.

Before, it was a bit too fast with all players running around so that it became a counter-fest with the CPU taking advantage of it and playing laserguided quick passes to their forwards... you know what I mean.

When the setting is on defensive players are way better at keeping their positions and so the gamepace is slowed down and the CPU has to actually play some real football with real build-up to create opportunities.

Imho, gameplay has become more satisfactory and realistic.

Like I said, I noticed this on demo2 (xbox360), don't know if the effect is as drastic in the full version, but it's worth a try.

Merry christmas to all.
 
gomito#10 said:
How do you set offense defensive setting?
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Well, you know where you set up the team's formations and tactics, there at the bottom you can go to the right until you find something called "Tactical help settings" or something like that. Inside of it you will find possibilities to set offside-trap on/off and other stuff...

and the last setting there is offensive/defensive-setting... usually it's on "no preference", just set it on defensive and you're done.
 
henrys hand said:
Well, you know where you set up the team's formations and tactics, there at the bottom you can go to the right until you find something called "Tactical help settings" or something like that. Inside of it you will find possibilities to set offside-trap on/off and other stuff...

and the last setting there is offensive/defensive-setting... usually it's on "no preference", just set it on defensive and you're done.
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I think it's "Tactical Assistance" but I have a problem, those options like offside trap are greyed out for me, I can only change the settings below, cb overlap, swap wings etc.
 
Is it just me not being able to execute certain step-overs and feints or is there anybody else out there having the same problem, maybe they've taken these move out of this years copy like i see they have with certain game modes. I don't know what's going on but i'm doing what the book describes to do to perform these moves and the player won't do them where as in 2012 no problem, the player does every move every time. I'm wondering if i have a setting set wrong or do i have to buy something from the game shop etc etc can some one or one of the veterans on here please answer my question please and help a brotha out it. I just got a ps3 last christmas and the 2012 pes with it from my wonderful wife, was playing ps2 pes games up until then and have been very impressed with konami soccer brand until yesterday.
 
tfcfan said:
Is it just me not being able to execute certain step-overs and feints or is there anybody else out there having the same problem, maybe they've taken these move out of this years copy like i see they have with certain game modes. I don't know what's going on but i'm doing what the book describes to do to perform these moves and the player won't do them where as in 2012 no problem, the player does every move every time. I'm wondering if i have a setting set wrong or do i have to buy something from the game shop etc etc can some one or one of the veterans on here please answer my question please and help a brotha out it. I just got a ps3 last christmas and the 2012 pes with it from my wonderful wife, was playing ps2 pes games up until then and have been very impressed with konami soccer brand until yesterday.
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The tricks are now done with a combination of the Left and Right Stick. You can also rotate the Right Stick clockwise to perform the Player I.D. skills.

If you prefer, you could always set up 4-Presets in Link Feints. But maybe just have 1 Trick per direction. That way you could set up the Step-Over or the Matthews Feint or whatever to each direction.

My head is a little fuzzy after a very messy Boxing Day session, but try R2 as well, or maybe L1 ? (I use different buttons to the default settings) at least one of those performs standard Step-Overs.
 
Hope you guys are having a great Christmas. I've been playing ML in Brazil with Gremio and it has been a blast! I love the south American part of PES this year.
 
God, I can't believe that a simple setting of putting the a/d-level on defensive can transform the game so much. I'm having a blast playing PES 2013 demo2 on full manual on superstar!

Before I never enjoyed playing top-player or superstar due to the massive cheating going on but now it is at a bare minimum.

Konami should have put this defensive-setting on as a default and saved us all a lot of headaches and moaning.

Thanks to the better positioning caused by this defensive-setting, even my attacking has improved.

On the weekend I will try out if it is the same with the full game on my macmini.
 
henrys hand said:
God, I can't believe that a simple setting of putting the a/d-level on defensive can transform the game so much. I'm having a blast playing PES 2013 demo2 on full manual on superstar!

Before I never enjoyed playing top-player or superstar due to the massive cheating going on but now it is at a bare minimum.

Konami should have put this defensive-setting on as a default and saved us all a lot of headaches and moaning.

Thanks to the better positioning caused by this defensive-setting, even my attacking has improved.

On the weekend I will try out if it is the same with the full game on my macmini.
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It's one of the things that I found about fortnight ago. I was getting a little disillusioned with the game because the game just felt like it was pre-programmed to be so end to end.

It's honestly as if defensive is like normal, in that players (especially midfielders) stay where they are put. It's like the normal function ensures that almost everyone gets ahead of the ball, whereas defensive, ensures that players stay where you put them on the tactics board.

The result is that the CPU acts way differently just by altering this setting, it's as if this adjustment alone makes them play more football, or at least stops them from slaloming into space constantly.

This, combined with more use of R2 in general play has made the game immensely enjoyable.
 
Hope everyone had a great Christmas!

I've given the attack / defence levels a go, I'm a bit confused. Isn't setting this in the tactical assistance screen the same as manually changing your att/def levels during the game using the d-pad? Setting attack levels to defensive is the equivalent of manually choosing a 2 bar setting during the match?
 
ccshopland said:
It's one of the things that I found about fortnight ago. I was getting a little disillusioned with the game because the game just felt like it was pre-programmed to be so end to end.

It's honestly as if defensive is like normal, in that players (especially midfielders) stay where they are put. It's like the normal function ensures that almost everyone gets ahead of the ball, whereas defensive, ensures that players stay where you put them on the tactics board.

The result is that the CPU acts way differently just by altering this setting, it's as if this adjustment alone makes them play more football, or at least stops them from slaloming into space constantly.

This, combined with more use of R2 in general play has made the game immensely enjoyable.
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Is this setting the same as using L2 + up/down(dpad)? I always thouht it was the same as the attack/defense mentality level.
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
Hope everyone had a great Christmas!

I've given the attack / defence levels a go, I'm a bit confused. Isn't setting this in the tactical assistance screen the same as manually changing your att/def levels during the game using the d-pad? Setting attack levels to defensive is the equivalent of manually choosing a 2 bar setting during the match?
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Yes, it's the same.
 
ccshopland said:
It's one of the things that I found about fortnight ago. I was getting a little disillusioned with the game because the game just felt like it was pre-programmed to be so end to end.

It's honestly as if defensive is like normal, in that players (especially midfielders) stay where they are put. It's like the normal function ensures that almost everyone gets ahead of the ball, whereas defensive, ensures that players stay where you put them on the tactics board.

The result is that the CPU acts way differently just by altering this setting, it's as if this adjustment alone makes them play more football, or at least stops them from slaloming into space constantly.

This, combined with more use of R2 in general play has made the game immensely enjoyable.
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Exactly.

And on superstar it seems the possession-rate for the CPU is best, ie. around 40%. Still not on the level I would wish it to be but I guess the AI is just not good enough right now to offer 50% or more consistently.
 
do you guys remember when did they remove substitution cut scenes from the game? i know it was removed in pes 2011, 2012 and 2013. but what about 2010, 2009, 2008? i can't recall back then.
 
They are back in the '13 game from what I have seen. I believe it is just a matter of when during gameplay that the substitution is made.
 
MadbaLL said:
do you guys remember when did they remove substitution cut scenes from the game? i know it was removed in pes 2011, 2012 and 2013. but what about 2010, 2009, 2008? i can't recall back then.
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There have been substitution cutscenes in every PES since PES 5 at least...
 
MadbaLL said:
do you guys remember when did they remove substitution cut scenes from the game? i know it was removed in pes 2011, 2012 and 2013. but what about 2010, 2009, 2008? i can't recall back then.
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The substitution cut scenes seem to only come in if you make a substitution while you are ahead in a match.
 
they are not "in" the way they are in pes6 or pes5.

you see them only if team who has the lead make substitution. and sometimes not even then.

so i ask again, when did they remove pes6 substitution cutscenes from next gen pes?
 
MadbaLL said:
they are not "in" the way they are in pes6 or pes5.

you see them only if team who has the lead make substitution. and sometimes not even then.

so i ask again, when did they remove pes6 substitution cutscenes from next gen pes?
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He's right, anyway I remember always seeing them in PES2008 so I guess it was after that.
 
Sorry if this has been asked, but I couldn't find definite answer. Can you play PES 2013 CO-OP with other players (3 or 4) against CPU? Everyone controlling only one player and CPU controlling rest of them. If yes, is it possible to play league? like master legue or something coop?
 
ghostmixu said:
Sorry if this has been asked, but I couldn't find definite answer. Can you play PES 2013 CO-OP with other players (3 or 4) against CPU? Everyone controlling only one player and CPU controlling rest of them. If yes, is it possible to play league? like master legue or something coop?
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Yes, you can ! When you start the match of ML, press the Pause then chose " side select " and you all pick the same side.
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After that you must
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You all should select "FIXED CURSOR"
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When all you done with cursors , and when you go back to pause menu, the game will open new options
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Here you choose which player you want to be and that is ! Have fun !
You must do this every time when you start new match .
P.S. In old , PS2 games was possible 8 vs CPU !
 
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ghostmixu said:
So you can only play like that on the same console/PC (offline)? There is no coop online right?
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Yes, its only offline !!! I will love to see online ML co-op vs CPU :) This is my dream since 2003 :D but still nothing ! Every year online become worst and worst .
 
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