PES 2013 Discussion Thread

[abriroyesejuiii]

the game has lost its magic.

the secret of the old editions, (winning eleven 3 final version onwards, until pes 6), control of the game, gameplay was alive, we controlled both the attack and defense.
Currently, AI seems to handle everything, all our defensive line, GK frightening, a game with lots of "bugs"

the fault is not the graphics engine, the blame is simply KONAMI, not knowing how to use the engine.

winning eleven 3 onwards, it has not even half of technology out there these days, but had an incredible magic.

I can compare this to what has happened with the game "Colin McRae", initially were fantastic, incredible, trying to be simulation, as of today is garbage

 

[ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue]

im not a big (sim) race gamer, but colin mc rae 2 was a very good game and much fun

 

[abriroyesejuiii]

im not a big (sim) race gamer, but colin mc rae 2 was a very good game and much fun

yes.

dirt is comparable to the saga PES
their first games were fantastic.
with the passage of time have gone down.

"Dirt Showdown" is one example, far from the simulation

PES 2013, away from the combination.. amusement / arcade of the old days.

 

[Suuuuupertalk]

Has anyone else noticed that John Champion in this game randomly says "got it" for no reason virtually every twenty seconds or so?. In my ML he says it so often I've had to turn off the commentary. The audio is usually terrible but this year it's somehow worse, which is bizarre because they've done nothing to the sound in this game. And I mean nothing, it's all been recycled and ported over from the last game. From crowds, sound effects, commentary scripts, even the same recordings from the last game.

Except now, somehow, John Champion manages to repeatedly say "got it" for no apparent reason ALL THE FRICKIN' TIME. That and waffling on about a "bear with a sore head".......

Actually speaking of strangeness, I've just noticed that there is a player in ML with the surname 'Craigsmental'.

You read that right. Craigsmental. Either someone is having a dig at some guy they know called Craig or Konami are taking the piss. They could have taken five minutes and assembled a ton of names from the fucking phone book, instead they somehow came up with Craigsmental.

I'm enjoying the game but I've lost all respect for Konami now. I was looking forward to a fresh start on a new engine but frankly the best engine in the world won't be able to stop the Konami lunatics from adding players called Craigsmental, having commentators talk about bears, and edit options including funny heads and stadium parts with cartoon backgrounds.

 

[radha1]

Has anyone else noticed that John Champion in this game randomly says "got it" for no reason virtually every twenty seconds or so?. In my ML he says it so often I've had to turn off the commentary. The audio is usually terrible but this year it's somehow worse, which is bizarre because they've done nothing to the sound in this game. And I mean nothing, it's all been recycled and ported over from the last game. From crowds, sound effects, commentary scripts, even the same recordings from the last game.

Except now, somehow, John Champion manages to repeatedly say "got it" for no apparent reason ALL THE FRICKIN' TIME. That and waffling on about a "bear with a sore head".......

Actually speaking of strangeness, I've just noticed that there is a player in ML with the surname 'Craigsmental'.

You read that right. Craigsmental. Either someone is having a dig at some guy they know called Craig or Konami are taking the piss. They could have taken five minutes and assembled a ton of names from the fucking phone book, instead they somehow came up with Craigsmental.

I'm enjoying the game but I've lost all respect for Konami now. I was looking forward to a fresh start on a new engine but frankly the best engine in the world won't be able to stop the Konami lunatics from adding players called Craigsmental, having commentators talk about bears, and edit options including funny heads and stadium parts with cartoon backgrounds.

I'm so glad I haven't had the commentary on in a PES game in 4 years.

Also, if you have an OF then the maker may have something to do with the Craigsmental name. All my youth player names the first year were also changed. Niellander is now Peter North.

--good day

 

[Radiodead]

Online is a thruball fest why konami don't allow CBs to intercept it even though you lnow its coming is ridiculous. Couple this with an unassisited player with a assisted one and its a waste of time you are very seldom going to be able to win. I just played a guy that pressed triangle on every opportunity and his rewards for playing this way was crazy.

Come one konami its easy to fix these things.

Online against an unassisted opponent though is proper football nirvana even with the big teams.

This is me

Used manual pass/shoot from the get-go & have yet to win 1 game vs assisted. Might of drawn the games were opponent wasnt spamming through balls

no filter online for manual shooting?ridiculous

 

[Me!TheRaven]

No Dudu, didn´t meant 11 was a reference. Was pointing the fact Konami tinkles with gameplay in each edition, influenced by its cover stars. They lost the plot, not generalizing/permiting/rewarding all playstyles, and scripting the fuck out the game to make it "fun" and "uncertain"!!

What they japanesely permit is any control style, rewarding those who take the easy, assisted way. How stupid is that?

 

[Issidingo]

I'm so glad I haven't had the commentary on in a PES game in 4 years.

Also, if you have an OF then the maker may have something to do with the Craigsmental name. All my youth player names the first year were also changed. Niellander is now Peter North.

--good day

Are you kidding? Peter North? He is a porn star legend, maybe next year we'll have rocco siffredi on the ML roster...

And speaking about the audio...i gotta say i actually prefer to turn off the crowd noise...it is just bloody annoying.

 

[Suuuuupertalk]

I'm so glad I haven't had the commentary on in a PES game in 4 years.

Also, if you have an OF then the maker may have something to do with the Craigsmental name. All my youth player names the first year were also changed. Niellander is now Peter North.

--good day

I use the Daymos basic file so to my knowledge there's no player editing whatsoever in my version. I might be wrong but I'd be amazed if he went to all the hard work of producing such an authentic OF only to add silly names. That apparently is Konami's job.

What I don't understand is that even if this was the result of some bizarre Konami/Japanese translation issue, it still needs to be passed by their European office, surely?

But nope, in the days when their major competitor is trying to go for a realistic management element to their manager mode, Konami are putting in non-licenced players called Craigsmental.

By the way, can you even edit youth players/ML defaults? Not that it matters in this case, I think he plays for a div 2 team.

 

[sweet magee]

I think the commentator says 'got it' as a sign that you've got your first touch right, not certain about that but don't recall it being in older versions, unlike most of the commentary.

 

[Deco]

I think the commentator says 'got it' as a sign that you've got your first touch right, not certain about that but don't recall it being in older versions, unlike most of the commentary.

I hear got it a lot when the cpu's defence intercepts a through ball. Beglins monotone voice is incredibly boring.

 

[radha1]

By the way, can you even edit youth players/ML defaults? Not that it matters in this case, I think he plays for a div 2 team.

Yes, I didn't realize it until I installed an OF with the Bundesliga 1 & 2 (so that I could play as Schalke) and my first year my youth team had human names like Peter North and Adam Nehty. So if you go into Edit Player and then scroll over to Created Players (I think) you will see your youth team players. Out of the box they are difficult to find because all the names are so fucked up with consonants, but with my OF they are all human. Anyway, you can edit the names of (I presume) only first year Youth Team players but not their positions or stats or attributes like skill cards, etc. I don't know about second year and beyond Youth Team players....

--good day

 

[radha1]

Are you kidding? Peter North? He is a porn star legend, maybe next year we'll have rocco siffredi on the ML roster...

And speaking about the audio...i gotta say i actually prefer to turn off the crowd noise...it is just bloody annoying.

Oh, sweet lord, I didn't realize that...I'm kind of glad that the OF maker had a sense of humor. He did a wonderful job with the Bundesliga players....wow, porn star, eh...

Edit: now I feel like an idiot: the name is Kyle North not Peter North. I guess my mistake says something about me....I don't know, I swear I'd never heard of Peter North!

 

[Wilko22]

The most annoying element of the commentary for me is Jim Beglin, If he keeps telling me i'd be better of using the flanks (even when I use the freaking flanks) I will not be responsible for my actions.

 

[Suuuuupertalk]

Is Master League bugged this year? I'm nine matches into my season and I'm sitting fourth from bottom of the table, which is fair enough considering I'm on Superstar with ML defaults, but the goals tallies are ridiculous. I'm the league's top scorers with a silly 18 goals in 9 games, the second top scoring team in the ENTIRE division is on 7. I've also conceded a whopping 19 goals, whereas the next top team for conceding goals is on 11, and that's the bottom team.

Nine games in, and the majority of the teams are sitting on between 5-7 goals scored, around 5-7 conceded. Then there's me on 18 scored 19 conceded.

My games are just full of goals, it's really odd. When I lose I get hammered by 3 or 4, when I do rarely win I'll suddenly dish out a thrashing myself. I've won three maches in nine and they came by the scorelines of 5-1, 4-1 and 3-1. Last game I played seemed like it might finally be a regular match, it was still 0-0 after 70 mins or so, then randomly ended up 3-1 again.

Ive wondered if the number of goals in my matches could be down to the fact that I play 15 minute matches, but then that wouldn't explain the total lack of goals being scored by the other teams. I mean, I'm fourth from bottom of the league and my players are taking up four of the top six goal scorers in the division. WTF?

 

[radha1]

Is Master League bugged this year? I'm nine matches into my season and I'm sitting fourth from bottom of the table, which is fair enough considering I'm on Superstar with ML defaults, but the goals tallies are ridiculous. I'm the league's top scorers with a silly 18 goals in 9 games, the second top scoring team in the ENTIRE division is on 7. I've also conceded a whopping 19 goals, whereas the next top team for conceding goals is on 11, and that's the bottom team.

Nine games in, and the majority of the teams are sitting on between 5-7 goals scored, around 5-7 conceded. Then there's me on 18 scored 19 conceded.

My games are just full of goals, it's really odd. When I lose I get hammered by 3 or 4, when I do rarely win I'll suddenly dish out a thrashing myself. I've won three maches in nine and they came by the scorelines of 5-1, 4-1 and 3-1. Last game I played seemed like it might finally be a regular match, it was still 0-0 after 70 mins or so, then randomly ended up 3-1 again.

Ive wondered if the number of goals in my matches could be down to the fact that I play 15 minute matches, but then that wouldn't explain the total lack of goals being scored by the other teams. I mean, I'm fourth from bottom of the league and my players are taking up four of the top six goal scorers in the division. WTF?

Yeah, something is definitely up with your ML experience. I can confirm, however, with my two MLs (first with Newcastle which I stopped after two years--it just got a bit easy, my players progressed quickly, I had loads of money; and second, current ML as Schalke in the 2nd Division) that the goals scored, conceded, differentials, are just fine. I've reached the winter transfer window of the first season and goals for the top ten teams are in the high 20's and low 30's with differentials of +8 to +15 and goals for the bottom ten teams are single digits up to 15 with differentials of -9 to -17.

I guess that is a bit low overall, though they are consistent and not wacky. Yours are definitely wacky. I have found that in 15 minute games if I go up by one or two goals in the second half the cpu team will go fully offensive, especially with some strange formations with three or four forwards and just one midfielder sometimes, so if I can get the ball to midfield it is clear sailing to goal. I end up winning big, by two or three goals. But I've also had plenty of 0-0 and 1-1 games. The variety is good.

I guess I should add that I play Top Player and use the actual team's lineup for Schalke (which is very average, at best, aside from Huntelaar). I'm fourth from top of the 2nd Division but don't have a penny to my name to sign a LB (both my LBs are injured) and I may have to switch to three in the back for a month or two. Promotion is not looking likely this year, which I don't really mind as I need to consolidate the squad before I take on the likes of Bayern Munich and Dortmund, etc.

I did make it to the semifinals of the League Cup where I got humiliated by the aforementioned Dortmund 6-0 over two legs.

I hope things even out in your ML. Best of luck.

--Good day!

P.S. I finally scored the goal I've been trying to score for weeks. Huntelaar makes a run down the left channel and receives a pass. R2 to stop and draw the ball back. He is standing still right on the left inside edge of the penalty area. The defenders continue one or two steps towards goal. I R2 side foot curl the ball into the top right corner (so reminiscent of David Villa's goal against Manchester United in the final) and the keeper doesn't make a move. Actually, he does straighten up from his ready-crouch and just turns his head to watch the ball. The camera switches to the manager on the sideline, slight smirk, eye glint...Huntelaar doesn't even celebrate. He doesn't need to celebrate...

 

[Suuuuupertalk]

Yeah, something is definitely up with your ML experience. I can confirm, however, with my two MLs (first with Newcastle which I stopped after two years--it just got a bit easy, my players progressed quickly, I had loads of money; and second, current ML as Schalke in the 2nd Division) that the goals scored, conceded, differentials, are just fine. I've reached the winter transfer window of the first season and goals for the top ten teams are in the high 20's and low 30's with differentials of +8 to +15 and goals for the bottom ten teams are single digits up to 15 with differentials of -9 to -17.

I guess that is a bit low overall, though they are consistent and not wacky. Yours are definitely wacky. I have found that in 15 minute games if I go up by one or two goals in the second half the cpu team will go fully offensive, especially with some strange formations with three or four forwards and just one midfielder sometimes, so if I can get the ball to midfield it is clear sailing to goal. I end up winning big, by two or three goals. But I've also had plenty of 0-0 and 1-1 games. The variety is good.

I guess I should add that I play Top Player and use the actual team's lineup for Schalke (which is very average, at best, aside from Huntelaar). I'm fourth from top of the 2nd Division but don't have a penny to my name to sign a LB (both my LBs are injured) and I may have to switch to three in the back for a month or two. Promotion is not looking likely this year, which I don't really mind as I need to consolidate the squad before I take on the likes of Bayern Munich and Dortmund, etc.

I did make it to the semifinals of the League Cup where I got humiliated by the aforementioned Dortmund 6-0.

I hope things even out in your ML. Best of luck.

--Good day!

Thanks mate, I think ML in general is totally fucked but it can't be a bug, it must be the same for most people. I've checked the other divisions In my ML and the Brazilian league has nearly finished. Gremio are top of the table with 24 wins and 3 losses, but they've only scored 32 goals in 33 matches.

A look around the Premier League shows something similar. Tottenham and a host of other clubs are joint third place and they've all scored less goals than games played.

Now, I could overlook this if my games were in proportion to this, but they're the total opposite. I just had a fantastic match where I came back to draw 2-2, but then I see the other results and every single one in my division was either 1-0 or 0-0. So that's another four goals in my game compared to everyone else.

When the team top of your league has scored just 8 goals in 11 matches and I'm 15th in the table with over three times the amount of goals scored and conceded than everyone else, then it looks ridiculous. I mean the league leaders are currently on course to score just under 30 goals in a complete season. I'm on course to core between 60-80 goals, with default players....

Not sure how this can be resolved, it's totally ruining the game. I suppose I might have to revert back to 10 minute games just to try and stem the sheer number of goals in each of my matches. There are at least 4 or 5 goals in every game I play. And that's on Superstar.

 

[NikoLiberty4]

Thanks mate, I think ML in general is totally fucked but it can't be a bug, it must be the same for most people. I've checked the other divisions In my ML and the Brazilian league has nearly finished. Gremio are top of the table with 24 wins and 3 losses, but they've only scored 32 goals in 33 matches.

A look around the Premier League shows something similar. Tottenham and a host of other clubs are joint third place and they've all scored less goals than games played.

Now, I could overlook this if my games were in proportion to this, but they're the total opposite. I just had a fantastic match where I came back to draw 2-2, but then I see the other results and every single one in my division was either 1-0 or 0-0. So that's another four goals in my game compared to everyone else.

When the team top of your league has scored just 8 goals in 11 matches and I'm 15th in the table with over three times the amount of goals scored and conceded than everyone else, then it looks ridiculous. I mean the league leaders are currently on course to score just under 30 goals in a complete season. I'm on course to core between 60-80 goals, with default players....

Not sure how this can be resolved, it's totally ruining the game. I suppose I might have to revert back to 10 minute games just to try and stem the sheer number of goals in each of my matches. There are at least 4 or 5 goals in every game I play. And that's on Superstar.

Remember that last year was the opposite, with Barça and Madrid scoring 150 goals per season. Konami logic, you know .
But I recommend you not going back to 10 min matches. 15 is the most realistic setting, as makes you feel the most similar feelings to a real match without fucking up scorelines.

 

[radha1]

Thanks mate, I think ML in general is totally fucked but it can't be a bug, it must be the same for most people. I've checked the other divisions In my ML and the Brazilian league has nearly finished. Gremio are top of the table with 24 wins and 3 losses, but they've only scored 32 goals in 33 matches.

A look around the Premier League shows something similar. Tottenham and a host of other clubs are joint third place and they've all scored less goals than games played.

Now, I could overlook this if my games were in proportion to this, but they're the total opposite. I just had a fantastic match where I came back to draw 2-2, but then I see the other results and every single one in my division was either 1-0 or 0-0. So that's another four goals in my game compared to everyone else.

When the team top of your league has scored just 8 goals in 11 matches and I'm 15th in the table with over three times the amount of goals scored and conceded than everyone else, then it looks ridiculous. I mean the league leaders are currently on course to score just under 30 goals in a complete season. I'm on course to core between 60-80 goals, with default players....

Not sure how this can be resolved, it's totally ruining the game. I suppose I might have to revert back to 10 minute games just to try and stem the sheer number of goals in each of my matches. There are at least 4 or 5 goals in every game I play. And that's on Superstar.

Okay, so I've gone back to look at the other leagues and I do find that goals scored, conceded is rather low, although in the Premier League, Ligue 1, Bundesliga 1, and my 2nd Division Bundesliga, all top ten teams have scored more that games played.

As I said, the goal-scoring is a bit low. I guess what is out of wack is your own stats. Something is up with that. In both my Newcastle and Schalke ML my stats are perfectly in line with my rank in the division relative with the teams around me. Perfectly sane. In fact, I had always assumed that sports video games modulated their goal stats relative to the human players performance. Not for you, obviously...

So what is the difference between our ML experiences? I can only point to Top Player for me and Superstar for you and actual team lineups for me and default lineups for you, and finally our different OFs. None of this should be relevant, of course, but with Konami you never know. I would say the most likely culprit is Superstar.

I don't know. I hope it doesn't ruin it for you.

--Good day...

Edit: oh, I guess I wonder if you are playing out of the box or with the patch....

 

[Rob92]

I know I keep singing my praises about this game, but seriously, the gameplay on zero assistance is incredible!

There are faults, the pass assistance is ridiculous and player switching is dodgy at times, but you can be so creative in the build-up play and the teammate AI has really impressed me.

It's great fun building up moves in the midfield, and gradually I am becoming more familiar with the controls.

I have always been able to keep possession well on manual controls doing the simple passes (due to a few years playing FIFA on manual), but found it very difficult to create chances on zero assistance, but now after a lot of practice everything seemed to click and now (when on form anyway) I have the cutting edge in the final third.

The little flicks and dinks you can do with slight taps of the pass/chipped through ball on manual are delightful. I'm loving the crossing as well, it's the main source of my goals, the physics are great!

 

[Schwarzenbeck]

Yes, I didn't realize it until I installed an OF with the Bundesliga 1 & 2 (so that I could play as Schalke) and my first year my youth team had human names like Peter North and Adam Nehty. So if you go into Edit Player and then scroll over to Created Players (I think) you will see your youth team players. Out of the box they are difficult to find because all the names are so fucked up with consonants, but with my OF they are all human. Anyway, you can edit the names of (I presume) only first year Youth Team players but not their positions or stats or attributes like skill cards, etc. I don't know about second year and beyond Youth Team players....

--good day

radha, which OF file are you using? I play ML as Bayern and I would love to have the 2. Bundesliga in there.

thx.

 

[CalcioCalabrese]

Hey guys, sorry to go off topic but I thought I'd get more people in here being able to offer advice. I was looking at picking up some surround sound headphones or possibly even just a device that connects to existing headphones and simulates surround sound. For example, the Turtle Beach DSS. Essentially, I want a surround effect when playing my Xbox and if possible, when watching Blu Rays/DVD's from my Blu Ray player.

Both the Xbox and Blu Ray player have their own HDMI cable running to the TV (a Sharp 42 inch LCD – D77X model) and I "was" hoping that the optical out would passthrough the full 5.1 signal but my recent Googling suggests that most TV's will only pass stereo output from a HDMI input and only TV broadcasts will fully pass through the source audio.

Given that the headphone device above is simulating surround anyway, am I correct in saying that even if the TV optical out downmixes to Stereo from the HDMI sources, that it doesn't make a difference. i.e. it would mainly make a difference if I wanted to go from the TV optical out into a receiver or home theater and for my purposes, I'll still get a simulated surround sound?

Also – has anyone used this kind of simulated surround headphone? Is it similar to what you'd hear with the correct 5.1 setup or is it a totally different type of surround to how the mix has been created?

If it works alright I'll use a decent pair of music/TV headphones (possibly wired) rather than a headset as I don't need a microphone for in game chat.

 

[Isslander]

Has anyone else noticed that John Champion in this game randomly says "got it" for no reason virtually every twenty seconds or so?.

Konami recorded Champion saying this when he realized he was done reading the commentary and could collect his money. But it was the only thing he said with real passion so they put it in the game.

 

[Suuuuupertalk]

Okay, so I've gone back to look at the other leagues and I do find that goals scored, conceded is rather low, although in the Premier League, Ligue 1, Bundesliga 1, and my 2nd Division Bundesliga, all top ten teams have scored more that games played.

As I said, the goal-scoring is a bit low. I guess what is out of wack is your own stats. Something is up with that. In both my Newcastle and Schalke ML my stats are perfectly in line with my rank in the division relative with the teams around me. Perfectly sane. In fact, I had always assumed that sports video games modulated their goal stats relative to the human players performance. Not for you, obviously...

So what is the difference between our ML experiences? I can only point to Top Player for me and Superstar for you and actual team lineups for me and default lineups for you, and finally our different OFs. None of this should be relevant, of course, but with Konami you never know. I would say the most likely culprit is Superstar.

I don't know. I hope it doesn't ruin it for you.

--Good day...

Edit: oh, I guess I wonder if you are playing out of the box or with the patch....

I think the only major difference between our ML is that I'm using the default ML players who are terrible at best. That, coupled with being on Superstar must be the reason why I'm conceding so many, but doesn't explain why I'm also scoring so many too. I've scored triple the amount of goals as the league leaders and I haven't even signed a new player yet.

Either way, I don't understand why the league results for other teams are constantly 0-0 and 1-0. Guess I'll have to learn to ignore it but I'm not sure if I can. My league season certainly can't carry on with every win or loss for my team being 3-2, 4-1, 5-1 etc.

 

[Suuuuupertalk]

Hey guys, sorry to go off topic but I thought I'd get more people in here being able to offer advice. I was looking at picking up some surround sound headphones or possibly even just a device that connects to existing headphones and simulates surround sound. For example, the Turtle Beach DSS. Essentially, I want a surround effect when playing my Xbox and if possible, when watching Blu Rays/DVD's from my Blu Ray player.

Both the Xbox and Blu Ray player have their own HDMI cable running to the TV (a Sharp 42 inch LCD – D77X model) and I "was" hoping that the optical out would passthrough the full 5.1 signal but my recent Googling suggests that most TV's will only pass stereo output from a HDMI input and only TV broadcasts will fully pass through the source audio.

Given that the headphone device above is simulating surround anyway, am I correct in saying that even if the TV optical out downmixes to Stereo from the HDMI sources, that it doesn't make a difference. i.e. it would mainly make a difference if I wanted to go from the TV optical out into a receiver or home theater and for my purposes, I'll still get a simulated surround sound?

Also – has anyone used this kind of simulated surround headphone? Is it similar to what you'd hear with the correct 5.1 setup or is it a totally different type of surround to how the mix has been created?

If it works alright I'll use a decent pair of music/TV headphones (possibly wired) rather than a headset as I don't need a microphone for in game chat.

I play my games with a pair of 5.1 headphones, if you search on here you'll find a really useful thread from a while ago, it really helped me.

I personally use the Tritton AX720 headphones, they come with a receiver box that plugs between the Xbox and headphones. Turtle Beach ones are great too and work pretty much in the same way. It is simulated surround sound but I think it's fantastic. In PES the Dolby digital doesn't really make any difference but other games like Skyrim or Battlefield 3, you can really hear sounds from all around you and be able to know where it's coming from without seeing first.

I've tried plugging them into the optical out on my tv but nope, all I get is stereo. You'll need to plug them into an adapter to use on 360. On PS3 it's fine, it just plugs into the optical out but I think for the 5.1 to work, it needs to be going directly to the console and not the TV. But that might just be my TV that has issues with that.

 

[xPJRx]

I think the only major difference between our ML is that I'm using the default ML players who are terrible at best. That, coupled with being on Superstar must be the reason why I'm conceding so many, but doesn't explain why I'm also scoring so many too. I've scored triple the amount of goals as the league leaders and I haven't even signed a new player yet.

Either way, I don't understand why the league results for other teams are constantly 0-0 and 1-0. Guess I'll have to learn to ignore it but I'm not sure if I can. My league season certainly can't carry on with every win or loss for my team being 3-2, 4-1, 5-1 etc.

Same in my ML mate, it seems Konami have nerfed the ridiculously high CPU scorelines from last year by doing the opposite, making every game very low scoring.
After 10 matches the top team in my ML game have scored 11 goals!!!! 11 goals in 10 matches and they're top!!!!!!
every CPU game is 1-0,1-1 or at best 2-1 !!!

 

[radha1]

radha, which OF file are you using? I play ML as Bayern and I would love to have the 2. Bundesliga in there.

thx.

I play SuperGunners OF for the US market, plus about two hours of my own editing. He did a wonderful job with stadiums and conforming all the leagues and players. However, his 2nd division is actually the Npower Championship in England, which I edited into the Bundesliga 2 by addressing stadiums, team names, and about 25 players (top 10-15 scorers and assisters as well as top goalkeepers and a few CBs). It's not entirely authentic, of course, but there is no OF for the US with Bundesliga 2.

When I run through this current ML I plan to just re-edit Division 2 for the Portuguese second division and onwards, etc.

 

[geeeeee]

I think the only major difference between our ML is that I'm using the default ML players who are terrible at best. That, coupled with being on Superstar must be the reason why I'm conceding so many, but doesn't explain why I'm also scoring so many too. I've scored triple the amount of goals as the league leaders and I haven't even signed a new player yet.

Either way, I don't understand why the league results for other teams are constantly 0-0 and 1-0. Guess I'll have to learn to ignore it but I'm not sure if I can. My league season certainly can't carry on with every win or loss for my team being 3-2, 4-1, 5-1 etc.

Hi Suuuuupertalk, what are you playing on? When I was playing on pc I used Matt10's stat changes which had every players 'ATTACK' rating as 1. It meant that the CPU built up their attacks better but the scores for CPU v CPU were either 0-0, 1-0, or 0-1. When the 'ATTACK' was slightly higher, the scores were more realistic.

Check the ATTACK rating just in case, though I'm pretty sure that you would have noticed if they were all on 1 .

I have since changed to ps3 but hav'nt started a ML yet so I don't know what the scores are like on that. I'm playing a World Cup at the moment, playing as every team. I am enjoying it very much. Is it me though, or are the goalies not as good compared to the CPU one? The CPU seems to make great saved but my one lets in silly powder puff efforts.

 

[DuduBR9]

When you play against an addicte online player like my brother, you realize that the game is actually absolutetly crap. I played against my brother offline, of course I just lost and draw and I didn't score one single goal, I was not on my good days and I tottaly lost concentation in many times because it's annoying and frustating to play agains someone that makes the game looks like a game for kids.

He hasn't the game yet, but he played exactly like he plays pes 2012. He played with 3 bar and I played with 1, of couse there was advantage. The pace of the match for him was much faster because of the assisted bullshit. But as I said, assisted passing is not the only problem and the most annoying thing for me. The biggest problem is the complete lack of challenge and a minimum football logic and even physics logic to defend because of two things: second pessure and the VERY poor physics on this game. It amazes me the fact that an old game for ps2 (WE9) makes so much more logic, it's so much more realistic than these modern games in a huge aspect of any collective sport such as defending. There's absolutely no foul when you are chasing a player putting your weight on him, there's no foul for pushing, for pressuring from behind the back of a player, the player being pressured doesn't loose balance, when your opponent hold down the pessure button and catch your player shoulder by shoulder or at his back, his player literally sticks on yours for more than 2 secounds and there's no consequence in this stupidly agressive way of defending, the game encourages constant and non-stop sprinting towards the player with the ball almost with the same agressiveness as an american football or a rugby player has because there's simply no consequences (risks). It's so easy to make this game become a mess and a childish game with some quick assisted passing 1-2 and this ilogic way of defenging. The matchs against my brother were nothing more and less than pes 2012 with slower gameplay. The things that work in pes 2012 also work with pes 2013, so facing someone 1-1, an expience cheap player is essentiatlly the same in both games. Something that I LOVED about WE9 and it's gone in football games is how much scary was marking a player in dangerous areas close to your goal. In real life players avoid to be too agressive and making tackles desperetly when the opponent is around the box (for obvious reasons), this is missing in this childish football games of nowadays...

Pes has serious problems with the defending part of the game. The game will not become football, will not force people to THINK like football until they don't bring back the classic defending logic (very realistic) of we9 in wich there ARE acctually RISKS for sprinting non stop so agressively towards the player on the ball, second pressure is also big joke, there's no physics and different animation reaction for players loosing balance, being pushed and getting fouls as they deserve. And about passing, come on, make assisted like bar 1 the only choice if you want to play assisted, it's enough assisted, it has no problem at all, it doesn't have a huge learning cuve.

I told my brother that playing against him in 1 bar using football logic against an addicted online player like him that plays with 3 bars is a huge difference. I used this pararell: it's like our challenge is the same (we have to score a goal duh), but let's assume that we are at the gym and we are making the same execise, but while I'm trying to carry 300kg you are just carying 25k(don't know how to ranfer this to pounds lol), or it's like our goal is going to the same place on a map but while he just needs to go sraiht forward, in my case I almost has to pass through a labyrinth first lol.

 

[Suuuuupertalk]

Hi Suuuuupertalk, what are you playing on? When I was playing on pc I used Matt10's stat changes which had every players 'ATTACK' rating as 1. It meant that the CPU built up their attacks better but the scores for CPU v CPU were either 0-0, 1-0, or 0-1. When the 'ATTACK' was slightly higher, the scores were more realistic.

Check the ATTACK rating just in case, though I'm pretty sure that you would have noticed if they were all on 1 .

I have since changed to ps3 but hav'nt started a ML yet so I don't know what the scores are like on that. I'm playing a World Cup at the moment, playing as every team. I am enjoying it very much. Is it me though, or are the goalies not as good compared to the CPU one? The CPU seems to make great saved but my one lets in silly powder puff efforts.

I'm on Xbox, so none of the stat patches or anything would apply I'm affraid.

I'm further into my ML and everyone in the league is still only scoring 1 goal per game. Have to go through three weeks of full Div2 results lists for the last time anyone in my division scored more than one goal in a game, with the exception of course being when the CPU plays me.

Word of warning for anyone wanting to attempt it, but playing ML with no assists, on Superstar and with the default players is for absolute masochists only. It's impossible. I played a session tonight, came away five matches down the line having scored no goals at all and conceded 15.

I have good games with evenly matched teams in friendlies, but with the ML default players it is a horrible chore. None of them can do any fundamental basics. You spend most of the match wrestling with the controls trying to prevent your defenders from running away from the play and leaving huge gaps, you can barely turn on the ball without it just running away from you, in fact the ML players are so bad that they shouldn't even be classed as footballers.

I'm now of the mindset that I'm gonna persist and beat this bastard game.