PES 2013 Discussion Thread

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I remember the days when everybody still wore black boots and when it was special if someone wore a pair of white ones for ex.
 
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Torres_Liverpool said:
Finally they won't release the demo for pc!!! 100% true..
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Pr-order is cancel !

sonjiru said:
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AMAZING!
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That is just menu background :D
 
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Has anyone tried to use manual shooting for crosses ? It's MUCH better than using manual cross, in manual cross the ball is too floaty for my taste.

You guys should try it, a very good tip. Or maybe it's not something "new" ere...
 
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be honest.
konami is no longer taken seriously this game, look at the topic of boots, think that we are all fucking stupid, we want more simulation.
made me remember the Colin McRae series of simulation to arcade

still do not understand why not release demo2 pc.

ashamed of their own game?
demo1 is just acceptable
 
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there should be way more injuries in the game, i haven't seen one in both demos.. there should be at least one injury every other game
 
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Played a few more on demo 2 it is far more polished than demo 1 in respect of manual passing. Still lacks the pace of assisted but that is sort of excepted.

I noticed a bunch of new animations one was Pepe putting his hands behind his back as he blocked a shot and one with sergio biscuits lifting his leg to intercept a chipped pass.

One thing that does bother me though is the ai's tendency to fall for a shot feint 90% of the time. Hope this isnthe case as its a bit of a pisstake.

I am on a mission to beat madrid atm as they are pretty lethal. I noticed the slower build usually reaps the better results if you try and attack them with pace you get caught out especially when possession is turned over.

Loving it to bits but this fucking 5 mins makes me want to scream. Seriously wtf happened to PC demo 2
 
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sonoman said:
there should be way more injuries in the game, i haven't seen one in both demos.. there should be at least one injury every other game
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Seen on average two yellow-label injuries to the AI in every match I play on demo 1. And I've collectively suffered around 5 to my players in around 50 matches played altogether. Similar to PES2012 to be honest.

I tackle hard when there's nothing to play for, hence the CPU pain
 
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They did say Demo 2 PC would be at least a week after consoles didn't they? So tomorrow or Wednesday I think we should expect it.
 
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About the lack of demo 2 on PC, I seem to remember a similar thing happening last year. Might have something to do with Konami being less than ecstatic about the amount of hacking on the first demo.
 
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Isslander said:
About the lack of demo 2 on PC, I seem to remember a similar thing happening last year. Might have something to do with Konami being less than ecstatic about the amount of hacking on the first demo.
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People will mod/hack the hell out of the final game too. I don't really see the reason to hold back a PC demo because of that. Part of the reason PES has such a cult status is because of the work of the modding community over the years.
 
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Tim7 said:
They did say Demo 2 PC would be at least a week after consoles didn't they? So tomorrow or Wednesday I think we should expect it.
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No they didn't say this. They say that a PC Demo is available in September.
 
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Really nice interview roughly translated by google translate. original link - http://www.goal.com/de/news/2538/games/2012/08/14/3307144/pes-2013-interview-mit-lead-developer-kei-masuda

Why should we choose this year for PES 13 has betrayed us Kei Masuda, chief developer of PES, in the following interview and casually chatted about future projects, statistics and deserts Lizenzrangeleien out of school.

PES has managed over the past few years, from the underdog to the true FIFA competitors ascend, and the. In a relatively short time Do you have an explanation for this, or even a secret formula for success?
There are some countries where PES has sold better than FIFA, and there are just areas where the sales were about the same. Yet we sit not on the throne. [Laughs] Instead of the growth's sake grow, we have, I think, simply developed a solid and loyal fan base in some countries.

Sometimes that is even more astonishing when you consider that today there must be really difficult to invent in football simulations on the wheel. After all, it is still about 22 players, a ball and two goals, right? How will you do it with PES 13, the player even more involved in the action?
Oh, it's not that difficult. There are actually still many elements of real football, and we want to build. The running freedom, strategies, body contact, combinations, organized defense. This list could continue indefinitely. We want to focus on it to install these things, but at the same time the players not to overload with too much tactics. The fun is, of course, still at the forefront. Another feature that we want to build, is the possibility that players can vote on which virtual football star still bespoke animations and movements of the real role model gets missed. This feature runs at us player ID, which ye have certainly heard. The whole thing will then be available as DLC. Then you can look forward already!

Speaking at the participation of the players in front of the boob tube: How important is the feedback from PES fans?
Immensely important. An example of this are the improvements we have made in the new PES title on the goalkeeper AI and manual shot opportunities. The criticisms were the players that we have taken to heart. This should remain so in the future.

The possibility that you have just mentioned, namely to influence shots manually is likely to be one of the hottest new features of PES 13th How exactly this feature does it look in the end?
Well, of course there is still the possibility of controlled shots.

PES with 13 players but can the trajectory that affect the strength and the spin of the shot, which makes for a more personalized gaming experience and tactical depth. So you can make it to the goalkeeper even harder than it already has. [Laughs]

The most important aspect for many players, the licenses for leagues and associations. Finally, one also wants to chase his personal favorite players on the court. Especially in Germany, which is your problem so sure, but Electronic Arts has leased the rights to the Bundesliga license actually. How will you iron out this shortcoming?
Of course we correct licenses are as important as our players. We can promise you that we will definitely be on the ball far as what licenses and also try to be bit by bit, to license and German clubs.
Aside from the standard graphic updates: where is in your opinion the greatest potential for football simulations? Better graphics can not have everything.
Today there are all sorts of statistics in the world of football. Pass and shooting accuracy, successful tackles, percentages held to shots on goal, the in-game distance traveled, speed and much more. A few years ago you would not have thought of it in life, something built into video games. For me this is actually one of the main ways in which you can develop football sims like PES and further expand.

The continuous development is certainly more important, when the first next-gen consoles, the market board. What do you think you will still change in general in terms of PES and also to the industry with the new generation?
It's simple: everything. [Laughs] We will develop a new engine for PES 14 and in the near future we want to ensure that PES is a better football game than we ever could have imagined. This is not just about graphics, but the AI, ball control, body contact, and other elements that are now not easy to implement and with the new generation of consoles and the advancement in hardware can finally be implemented.

Before we look even further into the future, a short flashback: Today there except PES and FIFA no serious Fußballsim. In the 90s that was completely different. Why do you think there are fewer choices today?
I believe that it is extremely hard to break into this genre foot. Football happens to be the most popular sport in the world, so it's only natural that the fans have a good eye for good titles and also have incredibly high standards of the annual expenditure of PES and FIFA.

What PES aces you have for the future still up his sleeve? Will there be spin-offs such as the PES football manager giving from the 90s? We have heard, for example, that Seabass is currently working on a brand new project?
Sure, we always have an eye on possible spinoffs. Seabass actually works on another project that is not directly related PES, but definitely about football. Unfortunately I can not at this time to say more, but we think that our fans should be excited about right.

Last question: In your opinion, who has scored the best goal with you EM?
Which you hear may not like, but my Lieblingstor it 2-0 by Balotelli was in the semifinals. The goal was simply technically sound and has virtually secured the Italy in the final.
 
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BossmanPES said:
Really nice interview roughly translated by google translate. original link - http://www.goal.com/de/news/2538/games/2012/08/14/3307144/pes-2013-interview-mit-lead-developer-kei-masuda

Why should we choose this year for PES 13 has betrayed us Kei Masuda, chief developer of PES, in the following interview and casually chatted about future projects, statistics and deserts Lizenzrangeleien out of school.

PES has managed over the past few years, from the underdog to the true FIFA competitors ascend, and the. In a relatively short time Do you have an explanation for this, or even a secret formula for success?
There are some countries where PES has sold better than FIFA, and there are just areas where the sales were about the same. Yet we sit not on the throne. [Laughs] Instead of the growth's sake grow, we have, I think, simply developed a solid and loyal fan base in some countries.

Sometimes that is even more astonishing when you consider that today there must be really difficult to invent in football simulations on the wheel. After all, it is still about 22 players, a ball and two goals, right? How will you do it with PES 13, the player even more involved in the action?
Oh, it's not that difficult. There are actually still many elements of real football, and we want to build. The running freedom, strategies, body contact, combinations, organized defense. This list could continue indefinitely. We want to focus on it to install these things, but at the same time the players not to overload with too much tactics. The fun is, of course, still at the forefront. Another feature that we want to build, is the possibility that players can vote on which virtual football star still bespoke animations and movements of the real role model gets missed. This feature runs at us player ID, which ye have certainly heard. The whole thing will then be available as DLC. Then you can look forward already!

Speaking at the participation of the players in front of the boob tube: How important is the feedback from PES fans?
Immensely important. An example of this are the improvements we have made in the new PES title on the goalkeeper AI and manual shot opportunities. The criticisms were the players that we have taken to heart. This should remain so in the future.

The possibility that you have just mentioned, namely to influence shots manually is likely to be one of the hottest new features of PES 13th How exactly this feature does it look in the end?
Well, of course there is still the possibility of controlled shots.

PES with 13 players but can the trajectory that affect the strength and the spin of the shot, which makes for a more personalized gaming experience and tactical depth. So you can make it to the goalkeeper even harder than it already has. [Laughs]

The most important aspect for many players, the licenses for leagues and associations. Finally, one also wants to chase his personal favorite players on the court. Especially in Germany, which is your problem so sure, but Electronic Arts has leased the rights to the Bundesliga license actually. How will you iron out this shortcoming?
Of course we correct licenses are as important as our players. We can promise you that we will definitely be on the ball far as what licenses and also try to be bit by bit, to license and German clubs.
Aside from the standard graphic updates: where is in your opinion the greatest potential for football simulations? Better graphics can not have everything.
Today there are all sorts of statistics in the world of football. Pass and shooting accuracy, successful tackles, percentages held to shots on goal, the in-game distance traveled, speed and much more. A few years ago you would not have thought of it in life, something built into video games. For me this is actually one of the main ways in which you can develop football sims like PES and further expand.

The continuous development is certainly more important, when the first next-gen consoles, the market board. What do you think you will still change in general in terms of PES and also to the industry with the new generation?
It's simple: everything. [Laughs] We will develop a new engine for PES 14 and in the near future we want to ensure that PES is a better football game than we ever could have imagined. This is not just about graphics, but the AI, ball control, body contact, and other elements that are now not easy to implement and with the new generation of consoles and the advancement in hardware can finally be implemented.

Before we look even further into the future, a short flashback: Today there except PES and FIFA no serious Fußballsim. In the 90s that was completely different. Why do you think there are fewer choices today?
I believe that it is extremely hard to break into this genre foot. Football happens to be the most popular sport in the world, so it's only natural that the fans have a good eye for good titles and also have incredibly high standards of the annual expenditure of PES and FIFA.

What PES aces you have for the future still up his sleeve? Will there be spin-offs such as the PES football manager giving from the 90s? We have heard, for example, that Seabass is currently working on a brand new project?
Sure, we always have an eye on possible spinoffs. Seabass actually works on another project that is not directly related PES, but definitely about football. Unfortunately I can not at this time to say more, but we think that our fans should be excited about right.

Last question: In your opinion, who has scored the best goal with you EM?
Which you hear may not like, but my Lieblingstor it 2-0 by Balotelli was in the semifinals. The goal was simply technically sound and has virtually secured the Italy in the final.
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Could Seabass be working on PES 2014 or is he done with the series?

Can't wait to participate in front of the boob tube :COOL:
 
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sincover said:
Could Seabass be working on PES 2014 or is he done with the series?

Can't wait to participate in front of the boob tube :COOL:
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Seabass is not working on PES 2014. The Interview says that his project nothing have to do with the PES Series. But his new Project is about Football. Maybe a manager?
 
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"Sometimes that is even more astonishing when you consider that today there must be really difficult to invent in football simulations on the wheel. After all, it is still about 22 players, a ball and two goals, right? How will you do it with PES 13, the player even more involved in the action?
Oh, it's not that difficult. There are actually still many elements of real football, and we want to build. The running freedom, strategies, body contact, combinations, organized defense. This list could continue indefinitely. We want to focus on it to install these things, but at the same time the players not to overload with too much tactics. The fun is, of course, still at the forefront. Another feature that we want to build, is the possibility that players can vote on which virtual football star still bespoke animations and movements of the real role model gets missed. This feature runs at us player ID, which ye have certainly heard. The whole thing will then be available as DLC. Then you can look forward already!" this is the best part of the interview because it shows that KONAMI know what is wrong with their product and that gives me hope that they can deliver with the new engine :)
 
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it may be lost in translation but konami need to implement far more tactics. far far more indepth tactical board, like football manager, so we can give team instructions and individual player instructions. thats how teams will act differently and how to make AI have unlimited variety- through a proper tactics board!

has no one else noticed theyve seemingly taken away mental stats? positioning, work rate etc. wtf??? theyre promoting individuality but are missing huge parts of how players behave on the pitch.
 
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Matty - perhaps the way they've coded the team AI now means they have some trade offs. Just speculation on my part though. I downloaded the PES 2011 demo last night and the difference in AI is staggering. The opposition would chase me in packs of 3. It was like watching under 8's play on a Sunday morning.

Put on Demo 2 for PES 2013 and it's much much better in terms of team's overall shape and 1 v 1 battles around the pitch. Hard to say from 5 min games how accurately team's styles are represented though.

Hopefully a new engine means they can push things a lot further.
 
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Looks like they are gonna change and overhaul everything for next gen. Makes me wonder how much they couldnt do with the current engine. The thought of this is exciting yet slightly worrying.
 
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Matty_17 said:
it may be lost in translation but konami need to implement far more tactics. far far more indepth tactical board, like football manager, so we can give team instructions and individual player instructions. thats how teams will act differently and how to make AI have unlimited variety- through a proper tactics board!

has no one else noticed theyve seemingly taken away mental stats? positioning, work rate etc. wtf??? theyre promoting individuality but are missing huge parts of how players behave on the pitch.
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Finally, the voice of reason. :))

This, and the lack of adaptative positioning, are the true flaws of PES.
 
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