PES 2013 Discussion Thread

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Up to 78% on mine peeps, will have finished in roughly 15 mins overall.

Will give some feedback tonight if I can. I'm going to play two games of demo one, and then five or six games of demo 2. This should enable me to see differences more clearly I feel.
 
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I to downloaded it to my 360 and constant stuttering,deleted it and waiting for the ps3 demo tomozz
 
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I've recently noticed that whereas the players in demo 1 took a pretty heavy touch unless you controlled the ball with R2, how it's been reduced to the extent that you barely have to bother using the R2 trap at all, as all the players seem to control the ball far faster and with far less a heavy touch than they did in the last demo. That, for me, is pretty shit actually.

I hadn't noticed it until recently because I'd become so used to using R2 almost all the time. It's taking away a bit of individuality for me, making players feel a tiny bit more like they felt in 2012, and speeds up the gameplay slightly because players are taking far less time to get the ball under control.

I don't like that one bit. I loved the heavier, slower control of the ball in demo 1. It's a slight difference but enough to change the pace of the game and make players feel a little more 'samey'. Disappointed in that.
 
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Jamezinho said:
Sorry, but with all due respect most of this is complete bollocks. :NO:

While I agree with the sentiment that Konami *should* be creating a game that doesn't require modding, in reality that is not going to happen for a long time. No game is perfect, and as Konami has shown, it can take many years for fans wishes to be acted upon in order to improve the game.

If someone (like Jenkey or Yair) says "hey, I can take this game and make it better" then that should be applauded. If I can play an improved version of the game I will. You'd be mad not to as a PC player.

Konami making "shit" games has not arisen because of the community's willingness to correct their mistakes.
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Precisely is that why i moaning, i own a PC and PS3.
On PC i play solo campaigns, testing this mods, and ok, they makes the game a little more good. But then every week i join with my friends playing tournaments on the PS3 a guess what is a different game obviously.
So at the end i'm playing two very differents versions of PES 2012 (now will be 2013), the PC modded one against the CPU, and the PS3 virgin one version against my mates.
 
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Deluxe said:
Precisely is that why i moaning, i own a PC and PS3.
On PC i play solo campaigns, testing this mods, and ok, they makes the game a little more good. But then every week i join with my friends playing tournaments on the PS3 a guess what is a different game obviously.
So at the end i'm playing two very differents versions of PES 2012 (now will be 2013), the PC modded one against the CPU, and the PS3 virgin one version against my mates.
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so ? thats your own problem, nothing to do with mods themselves.
 
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i made a us psn account about 4 hours ago,and could download demo 2 when released, no stuttering in ps3 demo,smooth well balanced gameplay,shooting not as powerfull as demo1 ,depends more on player stats and space and body position now i believe,as it should,to bad its not a longer playtime,same as demo 1,should not change gameplay for release ,its a wel balanced sim now ,the way pes should be.
 
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depesser said:
i made a us psn account about 4 hours ago,and could download demo 2 when released, no stuttering in ps3 demo,smooth well balanced gameplay,shooting not as powerfull as demo1 ,depends more on player stats and space and body position now i believe,as it should,to bad its not a longer playtime,same as demo 1,should not change gameplay for release ,its a wel balanced sim now ,the way pes should be.
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So the PS demo is still 5 mins also? Gonna go cancel my download and goto bed. Why promise a 10 min game and then give 5, thats bad even for Konami.
 
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Ern Dog said:
So the PS demo is still 5 mins also? Gonna go cancel my download and goto bed. Why promise a 10 min game and then give 5, thats bad even for Konami.
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Well, that's really poor. I feel for you guys.

Konami still cannot get the PR game right, no matter how much they try. A 5 minute demo is ridiculous for a game that sells itself on depth.
 
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PSN is such a pile of crap.

I look fprward to play this on PC too much slow down.
 
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How petty of Konami to punish the PC-modding-scene and the PC-players by delaying the demo for PC!
 
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Oh Jesus.

Err, first game of demo 2 peeps....I didn't like it. Everything was Uber, the running, the passing the game dynamics, just all felt too fast. Had 70% possession on Superstar, constant attack and counter. Will respond some more. Juve (Me) v Man Utd by the way.
 
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After playing about 10 games I can see the slight improvements in demo 2, which is good, but I think I prefer demo 1 gameplay:CONFUSE:
 
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2nd game was equally as bad. Me Bayern v CPU Barce. Like pinball. Again had 72%, AI attacks just direct and often dreadful. Barce did score a stunning goal mind that sniffed of cheating, totally unrealistic mind.

My early indications is that it now seems like an amped up 2012 with some formation alterations. So far I could almost cry at how disappointed I am. This may be the first year I skip a PES *sigh*.

PS - this was on -1 settings BTW!!!
 
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I agree that the game is faster than demo 1, I'm putting it down to the more instant ball control everyone now has compard to the previous demo. It make the game feel a little more like PES2012 for my liking. I still stand with my opinion that it's the best PES for a long time, but aft initially thinking that demo 2 was better, the ball control issue is kinda changing my mind.
 
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YouTube - Knuckle Shot - Cristiano Ronaldo - HD (720p)

Finally, pulled that one off.

It's very tricky to do though and getting it on target... Well, near on impossible at least for me at the moment :/.

The tricky part is... You need right timing and letting go of control stick. Yep, that's right, no movement on control stick. <lol>

Crazy and I will do without knuckle shots haha :D.
 
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Sorry to say guys, but I'm outta here.

Liked demo 1 apart from the skewed possession stats and the silly CPU build up. That's all they had to work on besides toning the accuracy of the shooting down a bit.

Now it's like a drugged up PES 2012, but just worse. Thoroughly dislike it, it's more arcade madness than ever before. The core gameplay is just fked IMO.

Anyway, hope you enjoy peeps.
 
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Suuuuupertalk said:
I agree that the game is faster than demo 1, I'm putting it down to the more instant ball control everyone now has compard to the previous demo. It make the game feel a little more like PES2012 for my liking. I still stand with my opinion that it's the best PES for a long time, but aft initially thinking that demo 2 was better, the ball control issue is kinda changing my mind.
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There is always something that Konami changes to make the game more accessible. Has anyone written something to the effect that ballcontrol should be made easier in the feedback-thread? I don't think so and yet they supposedly change it for the worse.

Quite to the contrary I wished ballcontrol would be more complex for every touch and the ball more free.

Too bad, with that one, the missing real time stamina/fatigue-system and still possession-rates of 70% and more for us humans and a cheating CPU to make up for it instead of intelligent build-up, I'm not very optimistic. The only hope are the PC-modders like jenkey that maybe can fill the blanks.

But if I were console-only-user I would seriously think about skipping this version.
 
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Other little things really stand out though. Controlling Barcelona really feels different to say, Junventus on the demo. You can perform really intricate passing in tiny spaces with Barcelona. Try it with other teams and it somehow doesn't quite come off in the same way. AMEN to this..:WORSHIP:
 
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Id also back up the assertion that the control is buggered. It did feel in demo one like players had different skill levels, as now they all feel the same.

I'd also like to point out how skatey players look and feel now. I said earlier it was slow - my mistake, the passing is slow but the movement is fast. However the players look and feel rigid like they are almost missing animations.

In demo one it felt like there was added animations to bridge the gap. in demo two its like they are missing again.

And if i see one more player let the ball bounce of him like it was hitting a tree trunk ill scream, looks ridiculous some of the ricochets.
 
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