PES 2012 Football Life thread

LTFC said:
I'm about to embark on ML on Pro level, it's the most balanced I think. I'll play default ML players (Ettori et al), and to change things up from previous years I'll play as Benfica in the Porguese League. I just need to add the Daymos option file to get the rest of the teams sorted and I'm good to go. Benfica are fully licenced already and have their stadium too, which IMO looks the best graphically out of all of them. Really like the lighting in day, afternoon and evening matches, which is a rarity in this game.

It'll also be a realistic challenge to try and guide them back to their glory years. They certainly have the support and stadium.
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Make sure you choose 15 minute games, that with Pro is the best balance in my opinion. I'd prefer using a Portugeuse team personally, there is nothing better than learning about a team your not familiar with. You get a real feel for the players and when you research them in real-life, they are very similiar to what you imagine. At least that's how I find it.
 
Very true, I've used Benfica in friendlies a fair bit and found Oscar Cardozo to be my favourite player in the game. He's tall, skilfull, and has a great free kick on him.

Sadly though I'll be using ML default players but I'll be tempted to try and sign him back. Plus I'm sure that learning all the fictional ML players will be just as fun, at least until I'm in a position to start signing real players.
 
Right…. Had myself a little Super Star experiment last night, based on discussions on PES Chronicles website.

I played a couple of Exhibition matches using various teams on Super Star level, what I found was shocking.
I was expecting a super rampant pressure abusing score from anywhere fest from the CPU, what i found was vastly different.
I drew my first game 1-1 and then won 2-0.
Wary of how the levels differ between exhibition and Master league modes I loaded up my ML save and played 3 matches on Super Star level, would have played more but it was late.
First match i trounced AEK Athens 3-0.
Second match i lost a Champions League group game 1-0 away to Schalke (Champions league games are always harder in general) and third game I lost 4-0 to Chelsea in the league.

What I noticed though was that Superstar isnt insanely difficult, its just much much more realistic. CPU teams held a much better shape, the positioning of their players was much more varied and intelligent, they didnt park the bus, they played the ball about in midfield, going sidewards, backwards, they played intricate little passing triangles round my players, theyd hit long cross-field passes, it was so varied and refreshing to play against rather than the usual direct to goal approach the CPU employs on lower levels.

As a result of the CPU’s better positioning, my players seemed much more aware of what the CPU was doing also, they made sidewards runs, dropped deep, there seemed to be a new level of intelligence to my players runs.
All in All every game was very immersive, enjoyable and realistic, I only lost so badly to Chelsea because they are top of the league, unbeaten, a great team and have every player rated over 100, including a CMF pairing of OTAM (102OVR) and Farinos (104OVR) and they would have destroyed me on regular anyway.
It was 0-0 until the second half, Chelsea scored a good goal, and because I was chasing the game i left myself exposed, and conceded 3 further goals.
But I never ever once felt cheated or scripted out of the game, it was evident I was beaten by a better team, both individually and collectively.

Im sticking with Super Star for now in ML, a jump from Regular to Superstar, whod have thought it, but Super Star level really should be called ‘Realistic Level’ as thats what it is.
Has revolutionised my game play experience of PES 12 even further.
 
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Right…. Had myself a little Super Star experiment last night, based on discussions on PES Chronicles website.

I played a couple of Exhibition matches using various teams on Super Star level, what I found was shocking.
I was expecting a super rampant pressure abusing score from anywhere fest from the CPU, what i found was vastly different.
I drew my first game 1-1 and then won 2-0.
Wary of how the levels differ between exhibition and Master league modes I loaded up my ML save and played 3 matches on Super Star level, would have played more but it was late.
First match i trounced AEK Athens 3-0.
Second match i lost a Champions League group game 1-0 away to Schalke (Champions league games are always harder in general) and third game I lost 4-0 to Chelsea in the league.

What I noticed though was that Superstar isnt insanely difficult, its just much much more realistic. CPU teams held a much better shape, the positioning of their players was much more varied and intelligent, they didnt park the bus, they played the ball about in midfield, going sidewards, backwards, they played intricate little passing triangles round my players, theyd hit long cross-field passes, it was so varied and refreshing to play against rather than the usual direct to goal approach the CPU employs on lower levels.

As a result of the CPU’s better positioning, my players seemed much more aware of what the CPU was doing also, they made sidewards runs, dropped deep, there seemed to be a new level of intelligence to my players runs.
All in All every game was very immersive, enjoyable and realistic, I only lost so badly to Chelsea because they are top of the league, unbeaten, a great team and have every player rated over 100, including a CMF pairing of OTAM (102OVR) and Farinos (104OVR) and they would have destroyed me on regular anyway.
It was 0-0 until the second half, Chelsea scored a good goal, and because I was chasing the game i left myself exposed, and conceded 3 further goals.
But I never ever once felt cheated or scripted out of the game, it was evident I was beaten by a better team, both individually and collectively.

Im sticking with Super Star for now in ML, a jump from Regular to Superstar, whod have thought it, but Super Star level really should be called ‘Realistic Level’ as thats what it is.
Has revolutionised my game play experience of PES 12 even further.
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Interesting.

I have to admit to never trying Superstar, Top Player put me off early doors, but I'll give this a crack.
 
xPJRx said:
Right…. Had myself a little Super Star experiment last night, based on discussions on PES Chronicles website.

I played a couple of Exhibition matches using various teams on Super Star level, what I found was shocking.
I was expecting a super rampant pressure abusing score from anywhere fest from the CPU, what i found was vastly different.
I drew my first game 1-1 and then won 2-0.
Wary of how the levels differ between exhibition and Master league modes I loaded up my ML save and played 3 matches on Super Star level, would have played more but it was late.
First match i trounced AEK Athens 3-0.
Second match i lost a Champions League group game 1-0 away to Schalke (Champions league games are always harder in general) and third game I lost 4-0 to Chelsea in the league.

What I noticed though was that Superstar isnt insanely difficult, its just much much more realistic. CPU teams held a much better shape, the positioning of their players was much more varied and intelligent, they didnt park the bus, they played the ball about in midfield, going sidewards, backwards, they played intricate little passing triangles round my players, theyd hit long cross-field passes, it was so varied and refreshing to play against rather than the usual direct to goal approach the CPU employs on lower levels.

As a result of the CPU’s better positioning, my players seemed much more aware of what the CPU was doing also, they made sidewards runs, dropped deep, there seemed to be a new level of intelligence to my players runs.
All in All every game was very immersive, enjoyable and realistic, I only lost so badly to Chelsea because they are top of the league, unbeaten, a great team and have every player rated over 100, including a CMF pairing of OTAM (102OVR) and Farinos (104OVR) and they would have destroyed me on regular anyway.
It was 0-0 until the second half, Chelsea scored a good goal, and because I was chasing the game i left myself exposed, and conceded 3 further goals.
But I never ever once felt cheated or scripted out of the game, it was evident I was beaten by a better team, both individually and collectively.

Im sticking with Super Star for now in ML, a jump from Regular to Superstar, whod have thought it, but Super Star level really should be called ‘Realistic Level’ as thats what it is.
Has revolutionised my game play experience of PES 12 even further.
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Yes, this has been established long ago. On Superstar the CPU plays a more patient buildup. I've actually had less possession than the CPU on Superstar. The only problem is PES rage when you watch replays of your CBs drifting away from the striker at the critical moment. But if you can live with that, Superstar is amazing and deep instead of super-difficult.
 
Ive played about 12 matches on SS now and never once seen my CB's drift from their men, shall keep an eye out for it though.
 
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Ive played about 12 matches on SS now and never once seen my CB's drift from their men, shall keep an eye out for it though.
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I meant that as just one example of PES rage with Superstar. There are others. However, if you are not noticing it then you are in for some great gameplay. Just forget all of that and enjoy yourself. I played through two two-season MLs as Ajax and it was the best experience of PES 2012. In fact, it was the only good experience. Enjoy!
 
Stuck with pro..

Blackburn gave my Tigers a massive premier league sized wak up slap when we travelled to Ewood, the final score 4-3 after some championship defending errors by Hull let Blackburn claw back from 2-0 to 2-2 before letting another lead slip from 3-2 to 4-3

Manchester United at old Trafford next, not a trip anyone at Hull is relishing, except Giroud who has struck 7 in the last 3 games!
 
I'm sticking with Pro, it's enjoyable so I'm fine with it.

I've just started my ML with Benfica in division 2, with the aim to get the ailing club back into the Portuguese League and then push on for domestic and European honors. It feels pretty authentic, the huge and officially licenced Estadio Da Luz is three quarters empty, so the small crowds really make it feel like you're starting down in the lower reaches of the football ladder.

Getting Benfica back to the top of European football is a huge task though, with ailing crowds, a squad of ageing pros and inexperienced teenagers, and only £3m starting funds that quickly reduced down to 1.6m after wages etc were paid, then things couldn't be harder. My pre-season began by freeing up some space for youth team players by releasing a small handful of older, low rated players almost out of contract. I then signed a load of youth players - Schmidt, Palmieri, Camacho, Fatecha, Shimizu, Schwarz, and the giant forward Ribiero.

First friendly, I had decent possession but got trounced 1-5 by Dinamo Kiev. Thankfully I won't have to play any Champions League teams for a long while with this current crop of players! But I did use it to tweak my formation, the default one that comes with Benfica in the main game, but with Ettori pushing into the AMC role between Shimizu and Cinalton. Ettori and Shimizu are going to hopefully be key players as they feel head and shoulders above the rest of the squad.

First league game, I battled to a dour 1-0 win thanks to a debut goal by Ribiero, his poor shot deflecting off the CPU defender's ass and taking the ball into opposite corner. A truly lucky goal to cap a hard fought but deserved win.

Overall I'm loving how crap all the players feel (since I've been playing with decent teams in friendlies up until now). When Ettori, in particular, is on the ball you know he's far better, and it makes you alter your tactics to use the best players in the team. Ribiero is also very useful as a battering ram up front when you can't play your way through the midfield.

Loving it so far!
 
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Errrm well contrary to the message above, I continued with my ML campaign and it's the hardest game I've ever played. Does anyone have any tips at all? I've managed just one goal in my opening six matches, and am getting well and truly spanked week in, week out. The latest was a lovely 5-0 drubbing to fucking 'Wondengine Town' of all teams. I can't even muster an effort on goal, I get the ball to the edge of their box and shots are charged down before I even connect with the ball, or I try and play my way through and am squeezed off the ball by ten men sitting in their own penalty area. So, to counteract that I try and get the ball wide, and my wingers, Shimizu included, don't have the pace or strength to beat their men and are soon doubled up by two or three defenders again.

I don't have this problem with better teams in friendly matches, so I assume it's because my ML team is largely ranked very low. I just have a mixture of crappy ML default players and 16-18 year old youth players rated around 60-65. I mean my defenders currently repeatedly stand there and allow all manner of through passes to split them wide open at will, no matter what I do to the defence line or compactness etc.

Also, I've spent £500,000, most of my starting budget, on an athletic coach to improve form. It's not done anything so far, in fact I've not been able to play some of my better players because they've been on a purple arrow for the entire season. The arrows seem to be completely random regardless of previous form.

Does anyone have any solutions to this, and with being able to open defences with the default ML players? I'm only on Professional level and finding the game to be initially impossible to play, definitely the most difficult game I've ever played.
 
LTFC said:
Errrm well contrary to the message above, I continued with my ML campaign and it's the hardest game I've ever played. Does anyone have any tips at all? I've managed just one goal in my opening six matches, and am getting well and truly spanked week in, week out. The latest was a lovely 5-0 drubbing to fucking 'Wondengine Town' of all teams. I can't even muster an effort on goal, I get the ball to the edge of their box and shots are charged down before I even connect with the ball, or I try and play my way through and am squeezed off the ball by ten men sitting in their own penalty area. So, to counteract that I try and get the ball wide, and my wingers, Shimizu included, don't have the pace or strength to beat their men and are soon doubled up by two or three defenders again.

I don't have this problem with better teams in friendly matches, so I assume it's because my ML team is largely ranked very low. I just have a mixture of crappy ML default players and 16-18 year old youth players rated around 60-65. I mean my defenders currently repeatedly stand there and allow all manner of through passes to split them wide open at will, no matter what I do to the defence line or compactness etc.

Also, I've spent £500,000, most of my starting budget, on an athletic coach to improve form. It's not done anything so far, in fact I've not been able to play some of my better players because they've been on a purple arrow for the entire season. The arrows seem to be completely random regardless of previous form.

Does anyone have any solutions to this, and with being able to open defences with the default ML players? I'm only on Professional level and finding the game to be initially impossible to play, definitely the most difficult game I've ever played.
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I think this is called a "feature" of PES 2012: you get to bat the ball around plenty, with great possession rates if you are patient, but with little sight of goal. To be honest, and not to make you feel bad or anything, I did get promoted the first year with my default players (things do get better) but I quit that ML (my second as Ajax) near the end of the second year because this "feature" gets so bloody boring. I roll the ball around for 65% of the game and get 8 shots, the CPU gets 22 shots on 35% of the possession. I think I fell asleep during one game...In my opinion, the best way to play the game--sorry, the only reasonable way to play the game--is on Superstar where the CPU have buildup play and possesion is somewhat equalized; of course, you get crushed by your own teammate stupidity (some call it scripting, I don't know).
 
LTFC said:
Errrm well contrary to the message above, I continued with my ML campaign and it's the hardest game I've ever played. Does anyone have any tips at all? I've managed just one goal in my opening six matches, and am getting well and truly spanked week in, week out. The latest was a lovely 5-0 drubbing to fucking 'Wondengine Town' of all teams. I can't even muster an effort on goal, I get the ball to the edge of their box and shots are charged down before I even connect with the ball, or I try and play my way through and am squeezed off the ball by ten men sitting in their own penalty area. So, to counteract that I try and get the ball wide, and my wingers, Shimizu included, don't have the pace or strength to beat their men and are soon doubled up by two or three defenders again.

I don't have this problem with better teams in friendly matches, so I assume it's because my ML team is largely ranked very low. I just have a mixture of crappy ML default players and 16-18 year old youth players rated around 60-65. I mean my defenders currently repeatedly stand there and allow all manner of through passes to split them wide open at will, no matter what I do to the defence line or compactness etc.

Also, I've spent £500,000, most of my starting budget, on an athletic coach to improve form. It's not done anything so far, in fact I've not been able to play some of my better players because they've been on a purple arrow for the entire season. The arrows seem to be completely random regardless of previous form.

Does anyone have any solutions to this, and with being able to open defences with the default ML players? I'm only on Professional level and finding the game to be initially impossible to play, definitely the most difficult game I've ever played.
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This is nothing that I didn't expect, and one of the reasons I felt you would have been better starting with the real squad. This game is hard enough on Pro with Zero Assistance, without the need to play with the default ML boys. Your problem is that your team is hopeless. It's not just about their passing and shooting either, it's about their intelligence, positioning and reading of the game.

We have all found it hard enough with real squads, it took myself and Taylor 4-5 seasons just to get out of Division 2. Ribiero will turn into a really great player, but you must make sure you train these boys in a philosophy. I focused mostly on training Technique for 3-4 days per week with some Condition thrown in amongst the odd Physical and Speed. This is the only way to up your players stats and give you a chance.

Riberio will get you a stack of goals from corners if you R3 control him and make his run into the near post.

And you are spot-on, this game is incredibly hard from the offsett.
 
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Fair enough, I'll persevere then as at least I know it's my players being awful rather than specifically being me!

I can handle poor losing streaks so long as I know it gets easier as you replace the duds with some decent real players. Gonna take some wheeling and dealing though!
 
LTFC said:
Fair enough, I'll persevere then as at least I know it's my players being awful rather than specifically being me!

I can handle poor losing streaks so long as I know it gets easier as you replace the duds with some decent real players. Gonna take some wheeling and dealing though!
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You are in it for the long haul bud, no doubt about that. It's definitely the players that are clueless. But, to an extent, that's the beauty of individuality. Even when upgrading your CB's to a 70+ OVR, you'll see a massive difference. If anything, starting at the bottom like you have, will give you the largest visable scope of variation in the players.

I'd be looking for Shimizu to pull the strings and use him to pick out Riberio's head from the flanks. With that team, that is certainly one the best strategies to utilise what limited strengths you have. I'd also not bother too much about upgrading your staff at this point, focus on your players. Look for as many freebies and Bosman's as you can get.

One thing is certain though LT, your satisfaction gained from what you will eventually achieve could not be any higher. Good luck. ;)


Edit- Also, I can honestly say that if Konami didn't release another game till 2014 I'd still be more than happy. I get the feeling that the new game will be out before I've even touched 70% of this current game. Now that's depth.
 
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Yeah Shimizu will be a key player. It's just a crying shame that he seems to be such a complete and utter penis. Every other week, it's "wah, wah, I want the number 10 shirt" etc etc. I'm currently biting my lip just to keep him happy, much like a poor man's Manchini ...

Shimizu is an odd one really, he's clearly better than the rest but I can't use him to get in behind defenders right now because he's so physically weak. Deep crosses it is until he improves and gets a little older and stronger!

Ettori seems to be a class above too. He's so far been my main outlet, but, boy, do I need a break. Palmieri and Schmidt are my two CB's rated at 63 and 68, but they're also only 16 and 18 years old, so yeah, I'm at the mercy of the game right now. I assume that age also plays a part in player stats too, so hopefully their positioning etc will improve with age not just stats. At least I hope.
 
LTFC said:
Yeah Shimizu will be a key player. It's just a crying shame that he seems to be such a complete and utter penis. Every other week, it's "wah, wah, I want the number 10 shirt" etc etc. I'm currently biting my lip just to keep him happy, much like a poor man's Manchini ...

Shimizu is an odd one really, he's clearly better than the rest but I can't use him to get in behind defenders right now because he's so physically weak. Deep crosses it is until he improves and gets a little older and stronger!

Ettori seems to be a class above too. He's so far been my main outlet, but, boy, do I need a break. Palmieri and Schmidt are my two CB's rated at 63 and 68, but they're also only 16 and 18 years old, so yeah, I'm at the mercy of the game right now. I assume that age also plays a part in player stats too, so hopefully their positioning etc will improve with age not just stats. At least I hope.
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Yes it will, it will revolve around the statistics though, most noticably the Defence stat- this seems to cover a lot of areas that you will be missing right now.
 
LTFC said:
Yeah Shimizu will be a key player. It's just a crying shame that he seems to be such a complete and utter penis. Every other week, it's "wah, wah, I want the number 10 shirt" etc etc. I'm currently biting my lip just to keep him happy, much like a poor man's Manchini ...

Shimizu is an odd one really, he's clearly better than the rest but I can't use him to get in behind defenders right now because he's so physically weak. Deep crosses it is until he improves and gets a little older and stronger!

Ettori seems to be a class above too. He's so far been my main outlet, but, boy, do I need a break. Palmieri and Schmidt are my two CB's rated at 63 and 68, but they're also only 16 and 18 years old, so yeah, I'm at the mercy of the game right now. I assume that age also plays a part in player stats too, so hopefully their positioning etc will improve with age not just stats. At least I hope.
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I found speed bursts (R2+R1) to be useful with Shimizu in his early seasons. With regular sprinting it's just impossible to run past fullbacks.

Besides Ettori, try to make a good use of Maqualao too ... have him somewhere near the goal - AMF or SS. Ettori might better passer/dribbler, but Maqualao has better and pretty decent shooting stats. He was my top scorer in the beginning.
To bolster your midfield, promote Camacho and Duffy from youth academy, ASAP. And give them plenty of gaming time. Boy, do they develop ...
Defence will be the biggest problem - youth players, although they will develop in time, are just too young to be reliable ATM. Default ones are just too crappy.
 
LTFC - Dont worry mate, took me 6 seasons to get promoted from Div2 using the defaults. I now play on Superstar and am consistently top 4 in the Prem and in the Champs league. Perseverance is the key.

This game is so incredibly deep you can play for over 300hrs and still not suss it all out.

A few tips Ive learnt:

- The right training schedule is essential, as Jimmy will vouch for, and make sure you Condition for at least 2 days before every game, this improves Fitness and form, and obviously a better athletic coach will help.

- Try the trusty 'Turn and shoot method' - Often works best using 2 AMF's, play the ball into your CF's feet whos usually lurking on the edge or just inside the box, use L2 and R2 for tight control and turn, stab of R1 to knock it past the defender and buy you a yard and shoot.
You cant do this every time though, the game kind of restricts you when it thinks your over doing it.

- Invest in the youth team, you get much better players come through who develop quickly, I've had Saha, Seedorf, Lovenkrands, Alonso, Kransic and others.

- Defending, close down the passing lanes and dont always focus on the ball carrier, the CPU loves through balls to the CF to run in on goal, make sure you track these runs.

Have a look at my site, its got some useful PES tips and articles on it.

PES ULTRA

Good Luck mate!
 
Thanks for the tips guys, I'll need them.

I restarted after a couple of matches as I realised I'd not selected the ML options that I wanted, so with Benfica I re-signed and released all the same players as I did before. Boy is this, so far, a bit of a depressing experience. My opening record reads like this: PLD6, W0, D2, L4, with one goal scored and ten conceded.

I'm bottom of Division 2, with just £1m in the bank, no players will even consider moving to me, even ones transfer listed on the cheap, and loans seem to be a no-go area for me too.

During these opening six matches I must have hit the post four or five times, yet when I finally did manage a goal I got thumped 4-1 with the CPU scoring two goals from massive deflections.

But the ML defaults are truly appalling, that's for sure. They don't make forward runs, they don't react to what's going on around them, and they don't react to loose balls. They all seem to be weak in the challenge and weak on the ball too. Shooting is a massive problem, I have no real issues normally, but with the ML players I've had several one-on-ones with the CPU keeper, shoot like I'd normally do to roll the ball low into the corner, and instead of doing what a normal player would do, they somehow drift a lofted 'shot' that loops over the bar so lightly you'd think it would have bounced before going over the goal line for a goal kick. Supremely frustrating.

Last year in PES2011's ML I managed to develop several players into the first team, people such as Palmieri, Schwarz, Schmidt and Ruskin all made it right to the end of my ML. This year, bar Shimizu, I can't see how any of them will be worth keeping.

But where on earth you get the funds to build a team with is currently anyone's guess, after player wages etc were paid out, even for this shower of 'footballers', my club funds are now down to just £1m.

Benfica are screwed!
 
LTFC said:
Thanks for the tips guys, I'll need them.

I restarted after a couple of matches as I realised I'd not selected the ML options that I wanted, so with Benfica I re-signed and released all the same players as I did before. Boy is this, so far, a bit of a depressing experience. My opening record reads like this: PLD6, W0, D2, L4, with one goal scored and ten conceded.

I'm bottom of Division 2, with just £1m in the bank, no players will even consider moving to me, even ones transfer listed on the cheap, and loans seem to be a no-go area for me too.

During these opening six matches I must have hit the post four or five times, yet when I finally did manage a goal I got thumped 4-1 with the CPU scoring two goals from massive deflections.

But the ML defaults are truly appalling, that's for sure. They don't make forward runs, they don't react to what's going on around them, and they don't react to loose balls. They all seem to be weak in the challenge and weak on the ball too. Shooting is a massive problem, I have no real issues normally, but with the ML players I've had several one-on-ones with the CPU keeper, shoot like I'd normally do to roll the ball low into the corner, and instead of doing what a normal player would do, they somehow drift a lofted 'shot' that loops over the bar so lightly you'd think it would have bounced before going over the goal line for a goal kick. Supremely frustrating.

Last year in PES2011's ML I managed to develop several players into the first team, people such as Palmieri, Schwarz, Schmidt and Ruskin all made it right to the end of my ML. This year, bar Shimizu, I can't see how any of them will be worth keeping.

But where on earth you get the funds to build a team with is currently anyone's guess, after player wages etc were paid out, even for this shower of 'footballers', my club funds are now down to just £1m.

Benfica are screwed!
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Patience, grasshopper...First, if I were you I would stop trying too hard to score. Get a grip on playing defense and make it your mission to get a clean sheet or two.

Consider changing your attack/defense level to assisted and on 'defensive' (two bars, I think) which will restrain your fullbacks from bombing forward like idiots. Don't bring anyone up for corners (your CBs have terrible header accuracy anyway); instead, position Ribiero to drive the near post (as Jimmy suggested) and either glance one in, or let him flick it down into the box. Shimizu or Ettori can tap those suckers in. For clean sheets with default players, never dribble out of your own box; always put your foot through it. Also, if you do ever manage to get the ball to your CF with his back to the goal, you should try the turn and shoot mentioned in the previous post, or lay off to a driving CMF. You'll be shocked at how effective long shots can be (just slightly touch the shoot button for a low, driven shot) and also how good Irejscu and that other CMF (can't remember his name offhand, he has incredible kicking power, always reminded me of Thor for some reason). Unfortunately, they both have terrible condition stats and aren't always fit to play. So play all defense all the time, don't let your sidebacks get caught upfield, hold up play, lay off to your CMFs and smash that mother in!

Edit: Irejscu and Elegost, I think...
 
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LTFC - Dont worry mate, took me 6 seasons to get promoted from Div2 using the defaults. I now play on Superstar and am consistently top 4 in the Prem and in the Champs league. Perseverance is the key.

This game is so incredibly deep you can play for over 300hrs and still not suss it all out.

A few tips Ive learnt:

- The right training schedule is essential, as Jimmy will vouch for, and make sure you Condition for at least 2 days before every game, this improves Fitness and form, and obviously a better athletic coach will help.

- Try the trusty 'Turn and shoot method' - Often works best using 2 AMF's, play the ball into your CF's feet whos usually lurking on the edge or just inside the box, use L2 and R2 for tight control and turn, stab of R1 to knock it past the defender and buy you a yard and shoot.
You cant do this every time though, the game kind of restricts you when it thinks your over doing it.

- Invest in the youth team, you get much better players come through who develop quickly, I've had Saha, Seedorf, Lovenkrands, Alonso, Kransic and others.

- Defending, close down the passing lanes and dont always focus on the ball carrier, the CPU loves through balls to the CF to run in on goal, make sure you track these runs.

Have a look at my site, its got some useful PES tips and articles on it.

PES ULTRA

Good Luck mate!
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one thing i have also noticed is short lob passes are very effective for creating space.
 
Yeah the short lob pass is something I too make decent use of :)

Right, I've started my ML again because I now have a better sense of what I'm doing, and seeing as I'd only just started then I may as well have.

So, first thing I did was transfer list a few players and cancel the contract for a good 6-7 players, including Cinalton, who feels like a reasonable player but made the decision based on financial reasons. His wages are double virtually all the first team squad, so out he goes.

Promoted from the youth team are; Palmieri (rated at 70), Shimizu, Schwarz, Camacho. I've also signed two players on season long loans, striker Eubanks-Blake from Wolves (rated 67 but with bags of pace and explosive speed), and central defender Rodriguez from Cesena (rated 74).

First match, Eubanks-Blake pulled a goal back on his debut but couldn't prevent a 1-2 loss, then second match I secured a hard fought 0-0 draw.

I have to say, Eubanks-Blake is going to be my main man this season, his pace and reaction to the ball is far superior than anyone else around him. Feels like a different class even when his stats don't necessarily say so. Hopefully his career can blossom following his shock loan move to Portugal ... though I only have him on loan.

Another great tip I read in this thread was about doing conditioning training in the 3-4 days before a match. It really seems to sort out player form quite considerably.
 
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By the way, random question, but is there any way of changing the match ball from the horrible blue and white PES ball in ML? I tried changing the ball type for the Portuguese League in the edit section but that doesn't do anything. There must be a way surely?!
 
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By the way, random question, but is there any way of changing the match ball from the horrible blue and white PES ball in ML? I tried changing the ball type for the Portuguese League in the edit section but that doesn't do anything. There must be a way surely?!
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If you go to edit mode and choose league/cup option. Then choose the Portuguese League. Click detailed settings and there should be an option there to change the ball.
 
Damn that's a head scratcher, I can only think it's the way your ML league is set up. Try changing the balls from all the leagues to see if that works.
 
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Thanks but I tried that, went back into ML, and the ball is still the same :(
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Aren't you in division 2? Have you also tried editing the 2nd division ball? If this doesn't help then i don't know!




Since losing to Blackburn I've played two more games..

Crashed 5-1 at old Trafford, a red arrow Diego combining with Rooney, that united side is no joke!
then the lads returned to action at the KC vs Crystal Palace, with confidence low and a few fatigued stars missing the Tigers battled through and it was level at 1-1 after a Ramzi volley and a Scannell goal as the game ticked into added time, before Shimizu put a corner in and Ramzi hit home with a header!

Loving life in the premiership, but starting to feel a little drained, for me the building of a team capable of being promoted is the best part of PES, the side I have is very close to being well balanced and able to challenge for the title.. Within the next 3. Years I believe we will be Premier league and FA Cup champions, with 5. Will be Champions of Europe! That's the aim, but once it's achieved, what comes next.. Maintening the side? Stopping debt or player decline from ruining the side.. I really hope this year keeps it interesting even after the inetivable domination we can all achieve!
 
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LOL yeah I realised that when I went back into the editor. Doh! Thanks for the help though guys, glad I can change it now :)

Well my ML has started much better than before. One win, two draws, two losses. A long road ahead though!
 
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LOL yeah I realised that when I went back into the editor. Doh! Thanks for the help though guys, glad I can change it now :)

Well my ML has started much better than before. One win, two draws, two losses. A long road ahead though!
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Good to hear, also i know that ML defaults are going to be a pain in the arse but one think you need to watch out for is trying to incorporate new players slowly..

Signing a whole new improved defence in one go will boost your "on paper" stats, but on the pitch it's going to look differently this is because new signings tend to have really low teamwork stats (usually at 1 for first game), and so things like defensive line and positioning will be affected as they learn to play in the system and with their new team-mates.. I learned this the hard way when I signed Bassong, Coloccini and Dramé all in one go in the 3rd season, for the first 5-6 games they ran around like headless chickens trying to find their feet, but as they played more they learnt what they're doing and began playing some good defensive stuff.. Since then I was a little more careful in bringing players in, and used new players such as Jaidi as a sub to slowly edge him into it, an once his teamwork stat was up a bit I put him in full time.. It also affects the rest of the teams teamwork of you bring in new players (at least it did for me).. In midfield all my players had 70+ teamwork stats, but since moving the formation a little and bringing in two new players straight into the core, it's dropped to 30+ but it's slowly growing again! Hope this ramble helps a little ;)

Also as a little thing to look forward to, Palmieri is 80 overall from 63ish.. 5 years of training, how do you train btw? I adopted a rule of 3 system, training each thing 3 times each then moving on, I only condition following internationals..
 
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Just me or does anyone else reckon the refs in this game struggle to be fair?! Just played Nottingham Forest and while I had 8 players booked and gave away 24 fouls (without any offsides) they commuted 0, ZERO, NONE fouls.. Total bull for me!
 
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