PES 2011 Discussion thread

Dar said:
My sentiments exactly at the moment.

Pressure whores, with lag and default players is a recipe for an amazingly high level of frustration.

Another thing I'm getting annoyed with is the inability of players to play a ball first time if it's a situation where the cpu doesn't expect you to get it. I'm not sure how many times I've lost possession this way, but sometimes even a second press of a button wont even bring up the power bar, you have to change direction first. Not good. :RANT:
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Yep, eventually in later PS2 incarnations you committed to a tackle more with the pressure didn't you, so it encouraged a mix of closing down, nicking the ball at the right time and knowing when to jostle a bit more.

It's probably an online issue to tell the truth. That little bit of latency means your player doesn't animate at the right time to draw them in.

A lot of the fighting games i play online can be affected by these little timing issues, move properties change a tad when enough lag is introduced to change how the game works somewhat.

I know L2 dribbling does draw the mistakes from the AI and offline opponents, introduce that bit of lag and they probably close you down easier.

A definite "commit" block tackle would be nice, maybe tackling from the R2 stance for example, balancing attacker vs defender as you can either stop one in their tracks or be left looking foolish depending on the various PES factors.
 
i have played master league-4 seasons now on top player..have been winning all competitions, (only missed on premier league in my first season..)..
u just pass the ball backward with LT (where the player passes n runs forward), and then find a through ball n he'll 90% of the times score.. this is too easy..
been playing with Arsenal, got Puyol and vidic very easily as well on transfers...
upgraded my staff and now the team is even better,,
5th season and only 5 goals conceeded in 23 matches.

its becoming easy and am loosing the enthusiasm now.. think i ll have 2 take some weak team n play.. maybe that proves difficult..

i would just like to know if this is the case with others..

PS: i am shit at tricks aswell.
 
Online lag has worsened for me on xbox 360 after the dlc
Why don't you fix your online code or improve your servers Konami??
 
vivek1412 said:
i have played master league-4 seasons now on top player..have been winning all competitions, (only missed on premier league in my first season..)..
u just pass the ball backward with LT (where the player passes n runs forward), and then find a through ball n he'll 90% of the times score.. this is too easy..
been playing with Arsenal, got Puyol and vidic very easily as well on transfers...
upgraded my staff and now the team is even better,,
5th season and only 5 goals conceeded in 23 matches.

its becoming easy and am loosing the enthusiasm now.. think i ll have 2 take some weak team n play.. maybe that proves difficult..

i would just like to know if this is the case with others..

PS: i am shit at tricks aswell.
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Lol, just lol, how about playing with default ML players? People take an easy way out and then they lose enthusiams, well it's your own fault buddy.
 
vivek1412 said:
i have played master league-4 seasons now on top player..have been winning all competitions, (only missed on premier league in my first season..)..
u just pass the ball backward with LT (where the player passes n runs forward), and then find a through ball n he'll 90% of the times score.. this is too easy..
been playing with Arsenal, got Puyol and vidic very easily as well on transfers...
upgraded my staff and now the team is even better,,
5th season and only 5 goals conceeded in 23 matches.

its becoming easy and am loosing the enthusiasm now.. think i ll have 2 take some weak team n play.. maybe that proves difficult..
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Well Duh! :CONF: When you play with teams as good as Arsenal our supposed to win most if not every game!
 
Been on this forum for 8 years now and every single time there is somebody who claims he wins everything, he plays with one of the big teams...
I used to say to have a really huge challenge with those big clubs, play it with the television off...but they don't get the irony...

PES is meant to be played with litle clubs...why not give it a try with Gijon, Catania. PAOK Salonica, Valenciennes, Blackpool or Club Brugge?
 
vivek1412 said:
ya, but i took the default players only..
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I don't like the approach of starting with a top team and picking Minanda & Co. You just destroy this team and have one less concurrent to play against. I don't like the idea of choosig top teams in general, whether its with real life players or Minanda & Co cause in both cases you just destroy a good team and have one team less to compete against.

It's always better to start with a weak teams and lead it to glory.
 
klashman69 said:
I think you and Skebaal have basically just identified that there's something not right with Barca's Formation/tactics!

Noticed Sergio Busquets isn't set as a DM anymore, maybe that's why they are so easy to score against!

Also why are poeple struggling so much vs Pressure whores, i really don't see them as a issue. Just pass it around and not hold the left stick much, they normally move their defenders out of position, makes them easy to beat!
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That has to be the case now, I was starting to worry things were becoming too easy but then I got spanked by Liverpool using Everton with Torres netting three goals against me.
 
klashman69 said:
I think you and Skebaal have basically just identified that there's something not right with Barca's Formation/tactics!

Noticed Sergio Busquets isn't set as a DM anymore, maybe that's why they are so easy to score against!
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Also, they play an incredibly high line at the back and Puyol and Pique are probably the only defenders in the whole game (that I've seen so far) who don't belt the ball out for a throw in when you put them under pressure. Nice idea, as IRL Pique especially will always look to pass or dribble his way out of trouble, but unfortunately in PES2011 he's shit at it for some reason. So if you play with two strikers, and put the big tenacious tackling one on Pique's side and the fast one on Puyol's side, you can get behind them very easily: pressure Pique, nick the ball off him when he tries to turn you, and play a short through ball to your nippy striker, who'll outpace Puyol and get through one on one. My Villarreal team went 2-0 up in the first 3 minutes at Camp Nou, same thing for both goals. Bit silly, really. I mean yes, Barca are vulnerable defensively, but conceding two at home before 3 minutes is up... nah.

The other thing which has been bugging me is the way the CPU selects the wrong line-ups for opposition teams. Dani Alves and Sergio Ramos always seem to play left back; Valencia always seem to come out playing 4-1-4-1 with Dealbert as their first-choice centre back and Tino Costa or Mathieu as their one holding midfielder (despite the fact that neither of them are holding midfielders). It's not even that players are injured or whatever... Barca had Thiago instead of Xavi in their first team both times I've played them this season, with Xavi coming off the bench later in the game (to play in the wrong position). I think the CPU will always pick a player with a green arrow over a player with a blue arrow, even if the blue arrow guy is ten times better. Bloody daft.

I've gone into Edit Mode and tweaked a few things, e.g. changing Ramos and Alves' preferred sides from "both" to "right", but of course that doesn't affect the league I'm playing currently. Someone needs to give the player database a good going over to avoid this kind of thing happening so much.

Still an amazing game, though, which is startling me with its brilliance (as well as annoying me with its niggles) every time I play...
 
gerd said:
Been on this forum for 8 years now and every single time there is somebody who claims he wins everything, he plays with one of the big teams...
I used to say to have a really huge challenge with those big clubs, play it with the television off...but they don't get the irony...

PES is meant to be played with litle clubs...why not give it a try with Gijon, Catania. PAOK Salonica, Valenciennes, Blackpool or Club Brugge?
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i ll surely start a new season now..
 
ilfenomeno said:
I don't like the approach of starting with a top team and picking Minanda & Co. You just destroy this team and have one less concurrent to play against. I don't like the idea of choosig top teams in general, whether its with real life players or Minanda & Co cause in both cases you just destroy a good team and have one team less to compete against.

It's always better to start with a weak teams and lead it to glory.
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its hard not to choose arsenal.. but i ll surely give it a try..
 
I absolutely fail at these competitions. Impossible to score in such short matches. Can maybe get 2/3 wins but there is always a game ending 0-0.
 
tc811 said:
Ah nice. I decide to join the D5 cup as soon as the clock strikes 10:30, and the competition is full as soon as I try to enter.
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That happens to me a lot, I don't know how the people that manage to get in do it. I've only successfully entered one competition since release.
 
Takes the piss when you are trying to win a match in a competition and it continually puts your players in poor condition even when being the home team.
 
Re: offside goals

Jimmy G-Force said:
My mate was messing about with the preset feints with his keeper the other night and kept doing 'dives' with him. It made me smile to see that keepers are exempted from receiving a Yellow Card from 'diving' for obvious reasons.
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I was able to dive in the penalty box without receiving yellow card..

There is also different animations for diving which depends on the situation..

Never resulted any free kicks or penalties yet :)

If the offside goals are deliberately in, the commentary should also be bashing the referee ..
 
This is just so annoying. Just played a random sprint and pressure whore. He chose Inter and ALL he did was play through balls to the wings to Eto and Suazo. He managed to score two goals before I changed my tactics, and he never managed to really threaten after that, mostly because I had like 65% possession. Frustratingly for me, he just kept mashing the pressure button. Really wish the fouls were how they were in the demo now. That would really stop people from abusing it online.
 
gerd said:
Been on this forum for 8 years now and every single time there is somebody who claims he wins everything, he plays with one of the big teams...
I used to say to have a really huge challenge with those big clubs, play it with the television off...but they don't get the irony...

PES is meant to be played with litle clubs...why not give it a try with Gijon, Catania. PAOK Salonica, Valenciennes, Blackpool or Club Brugge?
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amen gerd, AMEN!

i hardly ever play as a big club and get massive satisfaction..like earlier when i turned over real madrid with shakhtar donetsk 2-0

love it!
 
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