PES 2011 Discussion thread

lons_pl said:
KONAMI with PES 2011 don't make proper marketing action. I give you example my country Poland. Everywhere i see billboards FIFA 11. In most tv chanels they advertise FIFA 11 , FIFA 11 and FIFA 11. We are 11 bla bla bla. In all markets like Auchan, Tesco, Media Markt, Saturn, Carrefour you can find ONE BIG WORD FIFA 11. On internet shops everywhere FIFA 11. What a Fu.ck? Everywhere....I'm sick when i hear word FIFA.....Why KONAMI don't do something?! It's ridiculous!
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send them 10 million euros to advert in your country.... :LOL:
 
Does the weather change in Master League automatically? Is there winter and summer during the matches according to calendar? Can't really write this properly in English but maybe you understood..
 
In ML if you assign a match to your trainer and you end up losing to a really inferior team, is this just luck based or is it poor team set up? :COAT:
 
ohjeah said:
Does the weather change in Master League automatically? Is there winter and summer during the matches according to calendar? Can't really write this properly in English but maybe you understood..
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Seasonal weather to match real life? I would certainly hope so, I'm sure when I briefly played PES2010 there was poor weather at the start & end of a year, even snow falling in the ML menus.
 
master league bug , playing as man united and 99% of matches are at night time , NO day time matches
 
Searain said:
suddenly, it feels like I'm in 3rd grade again!

People like you are the sole reason why we can't have a decent footie game nowadays, you guys just swallow whatever product these big corps. throw in your general direction, no matter how half-assed and lackluster they appear to be.

Can't really blame the developers either, why would any businessman in his right minds change anything if they can get away with minimal efforts and still sell millions of copies...

You wanna know how a sports-game is supposed to be? Then get NBA 2k11 and draw a parallel, lol.
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If you are saying it's not realistic then you are wrong. And he was playing against a human . So basically; poor defending. And yeah you are a baby.
 
hany3 said:
master league bug , playing as man united and 99% of matches are at night time , NO day time matches
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I put some comments on konami feedback forums about this last year. Not particulary Man Utd, but if you are playing the master league and in all cup compitions, the fact that half your league games are at night, means that you can play something like 80% of your games at night in some parts of the season.

I don't like playing at night as much as threw the day as it just doesnt look at good.
 
lons_pl said:
KONAMI with PES 2011 don't make proper marketing action. I give you example my country Poland. Everywhere i see billboards FIFA 11. In most tv chanels they advertise FIFA 11 , FIFA 11 and FIFA 11. We are 11 bla bla bla. In all markets like Auchan, Tesco, Media Markt, Saturn, Carrefour you can find ONE BIG WORD FIFA 11. On internet shops everywhere FIFA 11. What a Fu.ck? Everywhere....I'm sick when i hear word FIFA.....Why KONAMI don't do something?! It's ridiculous!
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I saw an advert today at HT during the Chelsea vs Arsenal game today, it wasn't very good though.
 
Searain said:
That video...kick off > 3 straight, assisted passes > goal.

lol, I'm glad I haven't bought neither this nor FIFA this year.
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You are just being a troll. It is a human vs human match, and if one side made mistakes it is not the game's fault. People need to learn to play properly and specially defend... there are a lot of kids online with a knowledge of football consisting in "press R1"
 
Quick question about the ML. Though I doubt anyone has finished a full season yet.

Have they fixed the issue where the season ends and player happiness levels reset?

It drives me mad seeing my players pissed off at me only for them to magically reset to a default happy stage as soon as a new season starts. The same for other players, I'll see that someone is getting more and more annoyed at the club he is at... so I'll put a bid in... wait a few weeks and then the season ends, a new one starts and suddenly they're completely happy at their current club and refuse to jump ship.
 
jus2nang said:
It's all about finding the balance. At the end of the day, dribbling is part of the sport. The likes of Lionel Messi produce the following week in week out :

YouTube - Messi impossible goal Zaragoza HD

But you simply can't do this in pro anymore (and yes I prefer a passing game, but you should be able to do the above).
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Of course you can do this. I did it with Messi going past 5 even. That's just quick dribbling.
 
Any word on BAL? Hopefully it's the same as last year as in you have to work for your spot etc, would like to know that it is lol.
 
Think there was a video a while back showing advantage exists, the problem is that, in my opinion, its not implemented as well as it could be (I'm only judging from the demo mind). I've had plenty of more obvious situations than this video, where advantage should have been played but wasn't. I think in this video I would have actually preferred the free-kick from the dangerous position, as the ball didn't go directly to one of my players and there were two defenders close-by.
People are saying there are less fouls in final version, mainly due to lack of bad AI tackling from what I gather, but is it also a case of the advantage rule being implemented better?
 
Is it just me or does the full game feel less responsive than the demo? Initially I thought it was more responsive, but now I realised it was because the pace has been increased and is noticeably faster than the demo. However, there's a sort of lag to the players' movements compared to the demo. They take longer to respond to the left stick input. I compared it by playing the demo and the full version one after the other, and the difference is very obvious.

This is a pity because besides the couple of bugs and the incessant fouls, I loved the gameplay of the demo. It felt very smooth to me, even though so many people were feeling "clunky" movements. Also, now the pace has been increased so much that it just feels very rushed. There's no more the enjoyment of passing the ball around, probing and looking for gaps, that I experienced in the demo.

At first I thought maybe there might be something wrong with the controller, but I tested it in the demo and it felt like it did before, and with the full version I experienced the delay in movements. To be honest, I'm getting pretty frustrated with the delay after having been used to the demo, where I felt like I could actually make the player do exactly what I wanted. Do bear in mind I'm not talking about instantaneous or unrealistic movements. I'm only comparing it to the demo, where everything felt smooth to me, and now it just feels very unresponsive. Add to that the mad pace of the game and it makes for a very frustrating experience. Does anyone feel the same, or do you feel the full game is smoother?
 
Well, full game for me dosen't feel faster than the demo at all, about the same.

What teams are you playing with? With Fyernood, games seem fine to me. Must be the premium teams as usual :)
 
The video posted inadvertently highlights an issue with the foul system.

The referee puts his hands out to play advantage before any advantage is actually received. The Barca player gets fouled then the ref puts his hands out to play advantage way before the other Barca player even reacts and picks up the loose ball. That's somewhat of an issue for me because it looks silly, how the heck does it decide to play advantage anyway?

It's like the annoying way the whistle blows instantly after every foul is committed. Like he doesn't have to weigh up whether or not it was a foul, he just blows straight away. Play should continue for the slightest amount of time before he decides to call it back for a foul just like in the video the ref should wait to see if Barca get the ball back before he decides to play advantage.

Maybe because fouls have been programmed to be called instantly that is why we don't see the advantage rule enough. If it does happen to not get called straight away, just like in the video, it seems the advantage rule can work in the game.
 
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klashman69 said:
Well, full game for me dosen't feel faster than the demo at all, about the same.

What teams are you playing with? With Fyernood, games seem fine to me. Must be the premium teams as usual :)
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Well I do play with other teams. Love playing with the Copa teams. With them, I don't feel that much of a difference in pace. But I still do feel the delay in their movements, though it's lesser than with teams like Manchester United. Also, I've only been playing exhibition matches so far. Maybe the AI might be better in ML etc, but I don't think it should translate to the lag I'm experiencing?
 
What i dont like about this game is that you dont get an indicator for an advantage. It was the same as last year. This is basic konami so often dont put simple things in like this.
 
Northzzz said:
The video posted inadvertently highlights an issue with the foul system.

The referee puts his hands out to play advantage before any advantage is actually received. The Barca player gets fouled then the ref puts his hands out to play advantage way before the other Barca player even reacts and picks up the loose ball. That's somewhat of an issue for me because it looks silly, how the heck does it decide to play advantage anyway?

It's like the annoying way the whistle blows instantly after every foul is committed. Like he doesn't have to weigh up whether or not it was a foul, he just blows straight away. Play should continue for the slightest amount of time before he decides to call it back for a foul just like in the video the ref should wait to see if Barca get the ball back before he decides to play advantage.

Maybe because fouls have been programmed to be called instantly that is why we don't see the advantage rule enough. If it does happen to not get called straight away, just like in the video, it seems the advantage rule can work in the game.
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Or perhaps it was just the referee doing it's usual waving play-on, no foul, after the cpu had blatantly scythed your man down.
 
I downloaded both demos today and gave them a quick go through. There's not an awful lot between them at this point but both of them are lacking the little bits here and there.

None of them seem to have the shooting down. Proper bullet strikes don't really occur when you'd expect and most of the shots seem ridiculously powder-puff. In this respect, the ball physics were much more realistic 5 years ago - mildly depressing.

Oh well, at least we have 2 good games. I'd rather have just one exceptional game, mind.
 
winston said:
Or perhaps it was just the referee doing it's usual waving play-on, no foul, after the cpu had blatantly scythed your man down.
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Just you wait until you play on top player. The legendary AI cheating from the old PES games is back with a bang!

I think we will continue to have the AI cheating until maybe the next generation where there will be AI developed us to give us a challenge without using unfair help. This isn't possible yet so for now, we have to play vs the cheating AI :)
 
Experiencing some very shady 'glitches'. In just one of many instances, I was able to finally get a CPU player off balance and move past him, he follows me for a bit then just decides to kick the shite out of me, my player goes tumbling and is injured. The ref, who is standing 3 feet away just stands there. No foul. This has now been happening more and more in my ML. I seem to have built somewhat of a rivalry with NAC Breda, cause those bastards are just destroying my players. I also hate the stupid stumbling animation that occurs when any CPU defender gets within two feet.

Yes shank, I've had problems with player responsiveness also, sometimes they freeze for a second before I have control. I even had a defender run up to a loose ball in front of goal, refuse to accept my control and do a controlled shot into the back of his own net.
I could live with the little glitches here and there. What bothers me most is still the CPU's way of defending though, it's almost like the CPU is exploiting its own shortcomings to gain the advantage (I won't go into this again)
 
the game is just like a few tweaks away from being truly spectacular! Just a few more fouls, having the responsiveness looked into (i almost scored 2 own goals due responsiveness, player continues to run etc..) and it's there! There's definably a few balance issues with the game, but i dunno, i don't want to be too harsh since ML is pretty epic! Even match has been a different challenge!
 
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lol why can defenders like "Stremer" get a Ball when pushing the ball player "Julio Baptista" (89 balance!) from behind!!!

These fucking tackles from behind are so unrealistic! This would be a foul every single time in real life...

And all the online guys just hitting R1+X all time -.-
 
Thypari said:
lol why can defenders like "Stremer" get a Ball when pushing the ball player "Julio Baptista" (89 balance!) from behind!!!

These fucking tackles from behind are so unrealistic! This would be a foul every single time in real life...

And all the online guys just hitting R1+X all time -.-
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:(

Well, I know I won't be going online. If only we had a gentleman's league on the PC (hint hint Jimmy)
 
Sorry if this will sound like a stupid question but is there a way to get the pitches greener ? I have tried to change the color settings but it didn't satisfy me.Is it possible with a patch to change the initial color of pitches ?
edit: I am obviously talking about the PC version
 
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