PES 2009 General Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA TALK OR POLITICAL CHAT)

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I Find PES2009 better than FIFA09
Everybody talk about FIFA wonderful animations...But anybody noticed the weird running style of FIFA09: players with the elbow too high ,like a duck :-D...at least in PES2009 the arms are in the right position...Anyway I repeat to all FIFA fanboys " WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT PLAYERS MODEL, NETS ANIMATION, FIELD PROPORTIONS, SHIRT REALIZATION ?

i have no interest in this fifa/pes argument as i take no credit for producing either game (have played pes since pes1 ps2 simply cos it was better) but i think its clear to any neutral observer that nets are fully and better animated in FIFA and pitch size is probably about right.

BUt i think any sensible person will focus on one thing and that's gameplay. Here, FIFA outstrips any next gen PES, and trumps the old next gen as far as 'feel' animations etc, but still not yet AI (i'm looking at you pes3 and pes5 you little devils)

i've always loved pes, it's more than a game to me because i spend so much time re-enacting the sport i love so much. BUT, like many others, we can see that the next gen versions are such poorly shoehorned ps2 games, that we cannot sensibly play them.

I'm playing FIFA, not pretending it hits those 'relative' highs of pes3/5 but enjoying it nevertheless, and probably buying the ps2 version for my pes fix (this version was outsourced for development and all reports are that it feels remarkably fresh - people stop ignoring it)!

BUt what always confuses me is this - what on earth do people get out of maintaining a stubborn defence of a game, any game, when they could simply be playing it? Especially when focusing on such incidental parts of the game. It's like insisting smash court is better than virtua and top spin because the racket string spacing is more accurate.
 
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Guys, cut the FIFA/PES fanboy shit here once and for all, otherwise it's gonna rain bans. Talk about PES and PES only in this thread! This is the very last warning for all of you!
 
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As I said earlier I like the demo and am looking forward to getting the PS3 version next week. I also like FIFA very good game, as I said sometime before both of the games are good for different reasons.
 
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fuck this
its WE2009 on PS2 for me
 
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WE2009........hmmm, will it be that much different to the PS2 ver of PES09?
 
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WE always has been a better game then PES(PS2 version)
 
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Has anyone of you scored with a really long-range, powerful shot yet? Because I've yet to see one. All the goals I've seen are scored from short-range and they're barely powerful, looking all the same more or less.
 
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I've scored a few, a few volleys, a few drives and some that smacked posts, crossbars or keeper saves..

practice your shooting, keep balance, shoot with the stronger foot..
 
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And you need to make sure your facing properly towards goal as well.
Got a decent goal with Henry today, no defenders where near him so I faced him towards goal, released the R1 button,tapped the shot button for a good 4-5 secs and he shot the ball into the top corner, Henry style. :D
 
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i wonder what’s the iq level for the people who find this game playable?

Above 140 at least, find it alot better than FIFA and I've actually bought FIFA the last couple of years, and given both 08 and 09 a really damn fair chance. PES doesn't improve, but it's such a wonderful game to begin with, that minor nuisances can't make it fail for me.

Wonderful entertainment with a couple of friends in front of the TV. So much more speed, variety, class, than FIFA which still feels "on rails" to me.
 
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Ive been drinking so i cant tell is you are agreeing or dissagreeing with the whole PES 2010 philosophy
A lot of people misunderstand the whole PES 2010 theory.
PES 2010 will hopefully be a brand new engine its not going to be worked on from PES 2009, PES 08 and 09 are last gen gameplay in new gen graphics but because its from last gen hardware the whole chemistry breaks down just like Fifa 06 and 07.
Fifa 08 was a completely new game and nothing resembled 07 but it was worked on in the background for 3 years just like all sports titles Next Gen
PES 2010 will be the same you will hopefully see a new Engine specifically for the PS3 (idiots Wasted 2 years unlike EA who worked on Xbox 360).
And again i have to just point you back to PES and PES2 for the PS2 and then Wam Bam PES3 totally unrecognizable to the previous 2 games
yes i get what you are saying...but people shouold automatically say that pes 2010 would be better than whatever fifa 2010. it took them about 3 years to perfect this next gen, new engine thing...so that means people should really be looking to see if pes 2012 is going to be the next gen game pes fans have all been waiting for. no?
 
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i wonder what’s the iq level for the people who find this game playable?

gawd, why do people keep associating the level of IQ with the kind of game he/she plays?
Level of intelligence isn't shaped by video games.

I wonder what's the iq level for people who think we should judge their iq level based on a game they play?:D

Just read the seabass interview posted above. Looks like he really regrets not putting out Become a Legend earlier, he even referred EA's Become a Pro as Become A Legend.

He even applauds EA's FIFA engine for motion style and animation.

Hopefully they'll sort out online better this time around. Don't want no more lagfest.
 
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Ok my first post since the demo is out.

The demo is better than PES2008. I`m curious how the full version will be.

Off topic: this thread is going downhill with all that crap about PES vs FIFA.

Play the game you like and don`t bother others with this crap.
 
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without animation the players wouldnt move :SS

your way of thinking is abit retarded :| ANIMATION IS EVERYTHING (it is a part of gameplay)

if the animations is robotic the game will FEEL robotic (as PES09 does)

do you want me to tell you what my biggest problems with the game is? being able to turn 90 degrees over and over again without losing balance or looking like losing balance is just stupid(and unrealistic), passes are so fast yet players dont have trouble controlling it(unrealistic), ping pong football....i can go on

i just cant see how people think this is actually a great game....especially people who played the PES games in the PS2/xbox1 days, PES09 is an insult to those games


Jep suuuuuure after every pass every pass controlling is reaaaal easy, suuuure, defence is never on top of it, uhu. And those other things you're whining about, yeah those are all perfect in Fifa. How f*cking low can you go.


The gameplay and overal play is pretty balanced, that's what just makes that it is a good footy! The game that YOU are waiting for is not ready for years, not by EA or konami, dream on!!!!!!!! Their both good playable games, choose yours and don't be a repetitive whiner about the other one. Or wait at least 5 years and then see if anyone developed your beautiful perfect footy with Man Utd shirts with the right kind of red as colour.


this game is good, I don't get all the flamers in here.

Pff i just join them cuzz i get sick of all that whining...
 
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Some interesting rumours coming from WENB at the moment, they've delayed their (already well under way) Option File for PS3 until the weekend after release, for reasons Adam describes as "a good thing".

Let the "Konami will be updating the squads immediately" rumours continue...
 
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They pumped everything into MGS4....so that can achieve selling 1/10 of what pes sells... :CURSE:

I also read that members of the graphics department of PES also were working on other games. I dunno if they have a lot of teammembers but expanding some departments maybe isn't a bad idea for next versions of pes.
 
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lol- unplayable because of the chants!!! Turn them off then! Mute your tv! :-pp

Listen to yourself, no wonder Konami dont try anymore with mugs like you defending them. Just wondering, what should I do if I dont like the graphics, turn the screen off and just listen to the sound !!!!
 
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Indeed it is according to Play. I wonder if they made a gaffe in saying that on the website.
 
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Look at all the other games you can pre-order from Play.com, Saints Row 2 (advertised on the right of that page) for instance. Says in-stock even though it's not. That's just the way they do things.
 
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