PES 2009 General Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA TALK OR POLITICAL CHAT)

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I went to a videogame store here in Lisbon, called gamestop, to pre-order PES 2009 (and save 20€ as they accepted my old games). The leader of the store is a beta tester for konami (I was surprised as I speak many times with him and didn´t know that).

The bad news are that he said "It is a PES 2008 without frame-rate problems and better lightning effects; it´s almost the same; no dedicated servers for online play, still teleports in some games but it´s just a beta"

The good news are "The field is bigger and it provides good sensation building up until reach the opponent box". He didn´t know how to explain but there´s really a different feel as we approach oponnent box

Those are some things he said. I´m a little bit dissapointed as he insisted saying that the game isn´t that much different :(

We made a "deal" though. If I don´t like the game I have 24 hours to exchange it with FIFA 09 without any problem. So I can see myself playing like crazy all night long on 16 to 17 October until I find that the game is not good :D
I´ve already tell some friends to come here that night and test this thing :) let´s hope the game is good
 
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no news about italian serie a faces? i would like to know if giovinco has his face... :)
 
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Adebayor - Shot Accuracy 78?
Walcott - Shot Accuracy 67..

Not so sure about that

Nice to see Luke Young is still black and plays for Boro:

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:D :D


Just a little thing I've realised scrolling through some of these default edited looking faces. They seem to be a bit more varied than in PES2008. I assume there's more mouths, eyes, and stuff to chose from.
 
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I went to a videogame store here in Lisbon, called gamestop, to pre-order PES 2009 (and save 20€ as they accepted my old games). The leader of the store is a beta tester for konami (I was surprised as I speak many times with him and didn´t know that).

The bad news are that he said "It is a PES 2008 without frame-rate problems and better lightning effects; it´s almost the same; no dedicated servers for online play, still teleports in some games but it´s just a beta"

The good news are "The field is bigger and it provides good sensation building up until reach the opponent box". He didn´t know how to explain but there´s really a different feel as we approach oponnent box

Interesting... I really don't know what to make of this.

I might even know the fellow :lol:

Nonetheless, I find it quaint that we have Portuguese beta testers for the game without having a Portuguese Konami HQ... I'll try and dig that up ;)

I'm not saying that you are lying, by any means mate! I'm just saying that he might be pulling your leg, and if he has played the game, might have played it during the media presentation here in Portugal a couple of weeks ago.

I don't know why would he lie to you, though. I'm just baffled - if there are beta testers here in Portugal, I want to be part of them :)

Best regards,

Paulo Tavares
 
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if this is the finished game then its pathetic that Konami still have transfers incorrect, friedel and bentley at Blackburn etc, I know we can edit it but not online!
 
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Arsenal Players Way underrated again and again !! maybe seabass dont see Arsenal matches or dont even like them also what the hell with Fabregas FACE in PES2008 he was better !! DAMn ya konami :/
 
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if this is the finished game then its pathetic that Konami still have transfers incorrect, friedel and bentley at Blackburn etc, I know we can edit it but not online!

If you've been playing since back then, you would expect an outdated roster in every new PES. It's just a given, but this is next gen so hopefully something like this can change. All the pictures we are seeing, we don't know from which version of the game, maybe at the end just before releasing, they'll update the roster. MAYBE? :LOL:
 
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As a Saints fan (up yours Badger ;) ) I'd like to say Walcott's shot accuracy has always been rubbish. Just cos he happened to put three in the right place for England the other week doesn't change that his finishing is "alright"... though I might suspect better than 60-something anyway.

I also noted that they didn't wait for Clichy's face to appear and just clicked to take the screenshot when Sagna was still onscreen !

Arsenal faces so far are pretty impressive... but just wait til I get to those Skates... ;)
 
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ohh thats not fair arsenal players did`nt changed from pes6 @@ they are all underrated !!

adebayor - nasri - fabri - walcot - saniga - Toure - Clichy

must have better skills !! than that
 
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Nice to see Justin Hoyte and Senderos still in "north London" along with the generic Denilson and Bendtner. I'll let them off Vela, he's not got bad stats considering he's not started for Arsenal's league side yet...

...generic Traore's still with the Gooners too. Though that has to be better than where he is at the moment ;)

Speaking of which , good David James face, same good Campbell, rrrrrrrrruubbish Distin, Glen Johnson, Hreidarrson.

Decent Diarra, good Muntari (though he left months ago), blah blah the others (I couldn't tell you what Utaka even looked like), but a frighteningly realistic though fat-necked Crouch. Now as long as their stats haven't been ramped up after basically not winning a League game in 4 months last season and spawning a ridiculous win against Man U in the FA Cup QF... ;)

And they clearly could give as much of a toss about Martin Cranie as Harry (bloody) Redknapp could with his photofit mannequin head and hair ! :D. Only Lauren outside the "Pompy" starting XI looks even remotely accurate.

The Middlesbrough lineup needs some work too, wrong starting keeper for a start off... I see only Downing, Alves, Huth, Tuncay and presumably Brad Jones (as he looks a bit off-model) have "proper" faces for Boro, that's just bloody lazy. Mido has possibly the worst face I've seen, too.

Stoke are called "The Potteries" ??? Well, that's nice for them. On the bright side, the inclusion of Andy Griffin MIGHT just get me a call name this season after the crime that was his callname's omission last season. It matters to ME, ok ? :D.

The entire Stoke team has clearly been researched by a blind duck with no notetaking skills and no access to photographic libraries either, cos of the whole lot only Salif Diao is close - and he's been in the game with previous clubs for about 6 years anyway.

Anyway, that's far too much detail, you can all see for yourselves anyway, and decide who looks cack and who looks decent yourselves !

Suffice to say after noting that Paraguay weren't striped by default earlier, to see Stoke and Newcastle without striped shirts in default is not a good look - but I guess the kit templates for Hull and those other three must be in the game anyway. After all, it's not that they've ever completely neglected to put striped kits in the template menu at all before or anything... (I think it was PES3)...
 
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Well happy with Man Utd faces :D

VDS face looks spot on and nice to see Fletch get a face :| rather then a generic one. Also Campbell looks good too

but Danny Simpson.......... :LOL::LOL: why is he white? :-ll
 
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i dont care about the faces i care about the Players states and skill konami didnt bother to update that mean they dont see the EPL matches at all coz who saw arsenal last season and this one will make sure that they are the best enjoying football team and a high class players !! Newcastle and portsmoth players get better states then arsenal !! WOW
 
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not really, Arsenal players should only be very good at passing, stamina and team work

as individuals they are not that special

and i think its obvious Konami dont watch much european football, i mean... just look at the net designs :-ll
 
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Interesting... I really don't know what to make of this.

I might even know the fellow :lol:

Nonetheless, I find it quaint that we have Portuguese beta testers for the game without having a Portuguese Konami HQ... I'll try and dig that up ;)

I'm not saying that you are lying, by any means mate! I'm just saying that he might be pulling your leg, and if he has played the game, might have played it during the media presentation here in Portugal a couple of weeks ago.

I don't know why would he lie to you, though. I'm just baffled - if there are beta testers here in Portugal, I want to be part of them :)

Best regards,

Paulo Tavares

I doubt he would lie. Why would he need to lie?
Personally I trust in him as he seems crazy for videogames and he only does that in his life. No reason for lying. And no, he wasn´t at the media presentation. I know ecofilmes did that but he is a beta tester. He´s a rich and important man, I guess. Anyway, come to Odivelas Park, enter gamestop shop and ask for the boss :)
 
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not really, Arsenal players should only be very good at passing, stamina and team work

as individuals they are not that special

and i think its obvious Konami dont watch much european football, i mean... just look at the net designs :-ll

i agree with you but Arsenal one of the best EPL teams also in the world ,, so how could they did`nt update them every year of PES we know konami will overrate alot of teams and in the real life they are so poor !!
 
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Those are Arsenal, Portsmouth, Boro, Stoke and Newcastle...

There are more here too : Man U, West Ham, Blackburn, Wigan and Man City (or at least the few Man City players still there for now !).

http://www.videogameszone.de/aid,66...Athletic_und_ManCity_Die_Fotos_aller_Spieler/

And no, I won't be breaking each of those down for you !

Oh, ok, apart from THIS one. Why on earth would they spend time creating an accurate Nigel Quashie ? The bloke hasn't played more than about 5 games in the Premier League since he got relegated with Saints in 2004, and he's never had a proper face (at least not until PES6, I've not checked in 2008), but look, here he is, in all his Never Going To Play In The Premier League Again glory :

http://www.videogameszone.de/?menu=...n Athletic & ManCity: Die Fotos aller Spieler

Last thing, that's not Titus Bramble either, it's Mike Pollitt ! But I suspect again it was the screenshot being taken before the player picture switched, rather than some Japanese confusion.
 
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Well I have some comments to make about the player stats.

Nasri stats are improved and good in my opinion. Also Fabregas has finaly good passing (90, however I would give him 93 or 94)

Cristiano Ronaldo I think will be the best player in the game. Look at his attack atribute (97, I don´t remember many players in PES series with 97 attack... maybe Real Madrid´s Ronaldo and some classic players like Pele, Eusebio). Attack is a very important atribute, this guy will be a machine.

Now let´s laugh a lot :DANCE:

Van Persie is a joke, how can he be so underrated? Konami guys don´t see Arsenal playing

Adebayor has a shocking 79 in shot acc. Just forget him, he won´t score a goal. Is him that bad in real life? I don´t think so, I like him. Also Jo from Man City has only 74 shot acc, how can this be possible? If he was that bad he would stay playing in Russian League and not in Premiership. Also Elano is very underrated with only 81 passing and dribbling.. wathever.

Well the main joke is when you see 2 player stats.

Sol Campbell stills a great defender (better than much Real Madrid or Barcelona defenders)

And the supermassive big joke is MICHAEL OWEN that stills a Footie Machine. He has been injured for months, years maybe, he´s not the same anymore, after the injury. How can he be better than Adebayor?


The more I see from this PES 2009, the more I dislike the game. There is just too much to change and konami just doesn´t do it right. I can see myself playing PES 2009 if the game is decent, but I´m sure PES is reaching the end of the line, because there is another football game wich cares with these details and even release stats updates. And that football game is improving a lot.



edit: Fernando Torres, another joke. Should be one of the best strikers in the game. End.
 
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Park JI SOUNG better then Nasri - Fabri - Van Persie - Adebayor - Walcott !!! Give me a BREAK Konami !!

:LOL: that is kinda silly

About adebayor...i think his stats are right, he is not that good of a striker. he LOOKS like he is because he scores alot of goals but if i was playing at arsenal as a striker i would get 20-25 goals too :| Adebayor seems like he needs 5 chances to score 1 goal

I think the only area Adebayor should be REALLY good at is heading, strength and jumping
 
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The PES2008 in usa was release almost 6 months after the European, and yet he had no transfer update in relation to European. So Im pretty sure that this game will be release as it is now.
 
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:LOL: that is kinda silly

About adebayor...i think his stats are right, he is not that good of a striker. he LOOKS like he is because he scores alot of goals but if i was playing at arsenal as a striker i would get 20-25 goals too :| Adebayor seems like he needs 5 chances to score 1 goal

I think the only area Adebayor should be REALLY good at is heading, strength and jumping

Are you sure about Adebayor !! he is one of the best .. !! he is a good talent he can run - dribble - jump - shoot also he is agood passer he is a running machine !! he dont stop ,, do u think that Arsen W. will keep him for nothing Come on but he still young also unlikey and dont have super stars players in his team to assist him ,,,
 
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA

Well I have some comments to make about the player stats.

Nasri stats are improved and good in my opinion. Also Fabregas has finaly good passing (90, however I would give him 93 or 94)

Cristiano Ronaldo I think will be the best player in the game. Look at his attack atribute (97, I don´t remember many players in PES series with 97 attack... maybe Real Madrid´s Ronaldo and some classic players like Pele, Eusebio). Attack is a very important atribute, this guy will be a machine.

Now let´s laugh a lot :DANCE:

Van Persie is a joke, how can he be so underrated? Konami guys don´t see Arsenal playing

Adebayor has a shocking 79 in shot acc. Just forget him, he won´t score a goal. Is him that bad in real life? I don´t think so, I like him. Also Jo from Man City has only 74 shot acc, how can this be possible? If he was that bad he would stay playing in Russian League and not in Premiership. Also Elano is very underrated with only 81 passing and dribbling.. wathever.

Well the main joke is when you see 2 player stats.

Sol Campbell stills a great defender (better than much Real Madrid or Barcelona defenders)

And the supermassive big joke is MICHAEL OWEN that stills a Footie Machine. He has been injured for months, years maybe, he´s not the same anymore, after the injury. How can he be better than Adebayor?


The more I see from this PES 2009, the more I dislike the game. There is just too much to change and konami just doesn´t do it right. I can see myself playing PES 2009 if the game is decent, but I´m sure PES is reaching the end of the line, because there is another football game wich cares with these details and even release stats updates. And that football game is improving a lot.



edit: Fernando Torres, another joke. Should be one of the best strikers in the game. End.


KONAMI didnt update the game Since WE10 its 4 years with little update for some important players So its the same database i think that a waste !
 
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Are you sure about Adebayor !! he is one of the best .. !! he is a good talent he can run - dribble - jump - shoot also he is agood passer he is a running machine !! he dont stop ,, do u think that Arsen W. will keep him for nothing Come on but he still young also unlikey and dont have super stars players in his team to assist him ,,,

he is overrated

do you SEE the chances he misses?
 
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How can the second highest goal scorer in the EPL get such low stats? Ji Sung Park, who is a reserve player for Man Utd, is rated as a worldclass player?? These stats that Konami have for this Arsenal team have remained unchanged for the pass 2 or 3 games! Do we have to win the league to get good stats?!
 
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Hmm guys YOU COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT:
KONAMI holds the Japanese/Asian markets by the balls....THEY WILL NEVER buy "my nickname" game....
Even if Seabass shits on their faces they will still pay big bucks for that...
So as long that continues Seabass will continue to ignore EU players existence...HE ONLY CARES ABOUT WHAT JAPAN THINKS....why do u think ALL these years Japan got THE BEST versions?
And its the japanese gamers with their stubborness ruin PES....they keep buying even if the game deteriorates...
 
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