Next Gen Consoles

Placebo said:
Still plan to buy a PS4 day one, will probably also buy the following day one:

Watch Dogs (Deadsec Edition Pre-ordered)
Fifa14
Assassin's Creed Black Flag (Buccaneer Edition Pre-ordered)

They're the only day one games that definitely appeal to me.
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This is why I don't think I will by either consoles because two of those games are on pc.
 
I love the new controller too. I love the current PS3 controllers, prefer them to my Xbox 360 one by a mile. I also like the look of the PS4. XBOne looks awful, like a giant retro toaster.

I've thought about it and I'm gonna have to go PS4 even if my mates decide to play XBOne online. I can't miss out on PS Plus, Naughty Dog games, Sony's in-house games, and yes, the controller.
 
So I've read a rumour that ps4 splits its ram so that 3 gig is reserved for the OS. 4 gig for games and then 1 gig is left over as a reserved part.

I seems like the fanboys are going loopy over this but I've no idea what it all means.
Anyone got a clue what effect this will have? What's so bad about it?


The gist I've gathered is it makes the ram for games less than the Xbox 1, 3 gig for OS is supposedly stupidly too big.
 
Radiation said:
So I've read a rumour that ps4 splits its ram so that 3 gig is reserved for the OS. 4 gig for games and then 1 gig is left over as a reserved part.

I seems like the fanboys are going loopy over this but I've no idea what it all means.
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I had a quick look at gamefaqs, it's quite funny to read the PS4 board. "It's been several hours yet we still haven't heard a official response from Sony to RAM Drama." :D
 
I personally couldn't give a shit if one has a bit more RAM than the other. I'm not going to notice any difference so no point even making a fuss about it. Both consoles will be very good and play games with great graphics. Isn't that what matters?
 
Of course, but it's still disappointing. It reduces the potential it an squeeze out of the machine.
 
PU6HY said:
I personally couldn't give a shit if one has a bit more RAM than the other. I'm not going to notice any difference so no point even making a fuss about it. Both consoles will be very good and play games with great graphics. Isn't that what matters?
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What a rational thing to say. Can't you just be a proper fanboy and bash the shit out of one console? ;)

On a (slightly) more serious note, I always expected something to put a chink in Sony's Armor where it comes to PS4 (it can still happen on a far bigger level than this) as they set themselves up so high at E3, the only way for them after that is down. But if they could get something like an Uncharted 4 announcement out at TGS, no one would give a shit.
 
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Radiation said:
So I've read a rumour that ps4 splits its ram so that 3 gig is reserved for the OS. 4 gig for games and then 1 gig is left over as a reserved part.

I seems like the fanboys are going loopy over this but I've no idea what it all means.
Anyone got a clue what effect this will have? What's so bad about it?


The gist I've gathered is it makes the ram for games less than the Xbox 1, 3 gig for OS is supposedly stupidly too big.
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It will make absolutely no difference to performance.
Everyone with a PC or laptop will know when you have 8GB of RAM in your machine you never use any near that, and the amount of RAM used by the operating system is pretty standard, my PC has 16GB of RAM and the OS uses 3.5GB for the operating system, after I loaded and started playing Tomb Raider for 10 minutes my memory usage went up to 4.4GB and the GPU used 1.3GB of RAM(5.7GB TOTAL) so there is nothing to worry about the PS4 will probably never use the full 8GB of RAM, as my OS is running a lot more processes than the PS4 will run, so the other 4.5GB will be shared between the game processes and the video card.

I know this is running of PC, but the principle is the same.
 
Saw this brief summary someone posted on eurogamer


Xbox One | 8GB DDR3 at 68GB/s (5GB available to devs)

At 60fps the maximum memory available per frame is 1.133GB
At 30fps the maximum memory available per frame is 2.266GB

PS4 | 8GB GDDR5 at 176GB/s (5.5GB available to devs) 512mb of that swap space, paged to the HDD.

At 60fps the maximum memory available per frame is 2.933GB
At 30fps the maximum memory available per frame is 5.866GB




So all this uproar is just much ado about nothing
 
bsmaff said:
It will make absolutely no difference to performance.
Everyone with a PC or laptop will know when you have 8GB of RAM in your machine you never use any near that, and the amount of RAM used by the operating system is pretty standard, my PC has 16GB of RAM and the OS uses 3.5GB for the operating system, after I loaded and started playing Tomb Raider for 10 minutes my memory usage went up to 4.4GB and the GPU used 1.3GB of RAM(5.7GB TOTAL) so there is nothing to worry about the PS4 will probably never use the full 8GB of RAM, as my OS is running a lot more processes than the PS4 will run, so the other 4.5GB will be shared between the game processes and the video card.

I know this is running of PC, but the principle is the same.
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This man speaketh the truth.

Nothing to worry about here, move along.
 
Bsmaff - that's not how it works at all. You can't compare your PC not using 16GB of RAM with how consoles will use the 5GB (or more, if MS and Sony streamline the OS footprint over time). The reason your PC uses hardly any of your RAM is because your games aren't designed to use that much memory. Tomb Raider is a PS3 and 360 game, so it's been designed to work on machines that have less than 512MB to spare. PS4 and XBone games will be designed to use all of the RAM available to them, just as has been the case every single generation. I don't understand how you'd think that would change.
 
Still happy i went with the Xbox 180 the backtracking as ppl call it just keeps bringing good news, love how Sony Fans try and use this as a negitive thing lol.
With both being very similar with Ram now and using the Cloud an afterthought by Sony (coming Soon) add their history with Online services good news for the Xbox 180 buyers
 
Cloud afterthought? I've not read sony saying that they're going to have clouds of their own 'coming soon'. Where did you read that?

They've already used a cloud service for the servers on Uncharted 3 (via Amazon) so if they did the same again with other games, it wouldn't really be an afterthought. Just something they're doing again.




The backtracking is a good thing for people who want an xbox.

It's not that great though that they're still making changes, dropping features, adding things and switching their vision around and around. They look clueless and desperate.
 
Radiation said:
Cloud afterthought? I've not read sony saying that they're going to have clouds of their own 'coming soon'. Where did you read that?

They've already used a cloud service for the servers on Uncharted 3 (via Amazon) so if they did the same again with other games, it wouldn't really be an afterthought. Just something they're doing again.




The backtracking is a good thing for people who want an xbox.

It's not that great though that they're still making changes, dropping features, adding things and switching their vision around and around. They look clueless and desperate.
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I've always thought that about the Microsoft Entertainment Division.
 
embraceuk1 said:
Still happy i went with the Xbox 180 the backtracking as ppl call it just keeps bringing good news, love how Sony Fans try and use this as a negitive thing lol.
With both being very similar with Ram now and using the Cloud an afterthought by Sony (coming Soon) add their history with Online services good news for the Xbox 180 buyers
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you sound like a xbox fanboy so you are as bad as a sony fanboy.

Seriously why the fuck are people fanboys of a fucking product?

fucking pointless and i bet many here agree with me
 
Yup, saying that Xbox changes are good and laughing at Sony fanboys for putting a negative onto these new/late additions..... While in turn putting a negative on Sony supposedly adding a cloud service on as an afterthought and adding something late.

Seems silly.
 
I am talking about using the cloud to produce extra ram for the system and at e3 Sony definitely said coming soon in 2014 where as Microsoft explained how publishers could use this in detail.
Not a fanboy did preorder the PS4 until Microsoft changed their used game policies.
But remember I live in the US so we are going to see the full power of the Xbox 180 with TV services, Online Apps Games etc.
Easier choice to go with PS4 in Europe where the Xbox won't have all the baubles day 1
 
embraceuk1 said:
I am talking about using the cloud to produce extra ram for the system and at e3 Sony definitely said coming soon in 2014 where as Microsoft explained how publishers could use this in detail.
Not a fanboy did preorder the PS4 until Microsoft changed their used game policies.
But remember I live in the US so we are going to see the full power of the Xbox 180 with TV services, Online Apps Games etc.
Easier choice to go with PS4 in Europe where the Xbox won't have all the baubles day 1
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Microsoft didn't detail how the cloud was going to work in detail. The best they offered was for a sharing your saves. It was made clearer weeks after E3 by someone from respawn who said they were using the cloud to run virtual servers.

The coming 2014 is gaikai streaming for ps1/2/3 games.
 
No, the word itself. Or better yet, the use of it. Both have almost magical connotations.

There are android phones with a higher value of ppi in their screens than the iPhones, but for many people "it's not retina, it's not good."
 
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