Manchester United Thread
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gerd
Retired Footballer
Completely agree.
About Southampton: it is fantastic that a club with a good youth academy is up there. I wonder how much of the players will be there in a couple of seasons.
Clubs like Southampton and Swansea deserve all the praise for their philosophy.
Must say that i'm also surprised by West Han United this season. Even Caroll is scoring wonder goals.
gerd
Retired Footballer
Sorry to hijack this thread.
There is a very strong rumour in the Belgian press that Kevin De Bruyne is Van Gaal's main transfer target at the moment.
I'm well aware that i'm not objective, because this guy is absolutely my favourite player, but he has it all.
People who really follow Belgian football that De Bruyne is by far our biggest talent. Forget Hazard or Kompany, De Bruyne is the real thing.
Personally i would like to see De Bruyne a couple of seasons more at Wolfsburg, but he deserves a very big team like Man United. Give him a few :months to settle and you would have the best midfielder of the EPL.
To give you an idea what other football players thin about him: just before new year there was a poll among German football players (all the Bundesliga players). Robben was voted best player and De Bruyne second best. De Bruyne was voted the best midfielder of the Bundesliga...
There is a very strong rumour in the Belgian press that Kevin De Bruyne is Van Gaal's main transfer target at the moment.
I'm well aware that i'm not objective, because this guy is absolutely my favourite player, but he has it all.
People who really follow Belgian football that De Bruyne is by far our biggest talent. Forget Hazard or Kompany, De Bruyne is the real thing.
Personally i would like to see De Bruyne a couple of seasons more at Wolfsburg, but he deserves a very big team like Man United. Give him a few :months to settle and you would have the best midfielder of the EPL.
To give you an idea what other football players thin about him: just before new year there was a poll among German football players (all the Bundesliga players). Robben was voted best player and De Bruyne second best. De Bruyne was voted the best midfielder of the Bundesliga...
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- 24 November 2014
You are right, he is such a good player. I really hope Man U dont get him.
It's also in a few UK newspapers today as well, saying he is linked with them.
Rantboy
International
- 27 December 2002
- Team
- Fluminense FC / Arsenal
De Bruyne made a good impression in the World Cup too. That match against the USA... the world would end and he'd still be running!
I think Chelsea will regret letting him go some day very soon.
I think Chelsea will regret letting him go some day very soon.
gerd
Retired Footballer
He can play number 10, DMF, CMF, SMF and winger.
IMO he is better than the numbers 10 you have...still can't understand why Mourinho never played him.
He played the first match against Hull, was man of the match and then one half against Man Utd and that was it...
Most Chelsea fans will not complain because they have Fabregas, but i don't understand that Hazard is seen as one of the 20 best players in the world and De Bruyne isn't even in FourFourTwo's top 100...(he isn't in the Guardian's top 100 either).
When he played for Werder Bremen he was a DMF and at the end of the season he was in the best 11 of the Bundesliga, not Schweinsteiger but De Bruyne and before Werder he never played at that position...
IMO he is better than the numbers 10 you have...still can't understand why Mourinho never played him.
He played the first match against Hull, was man of the match and then one half against Man Utd and that was it...
Most Chelsea fans will not complain because they have Fabregas, but i don't understand that Hazard is seen as one of the 20 best players in the world and De Bruyne isn't even in FourFourTwo's top 100...(he isn't in the Guardian's top 100 either).
When he played for Werder Bremen he was a DMF and at the end of the season he was in the best 11 of the Bundesliga, not Schweinsteiger but De Bruyne and before Werder he never played at that position...
ss4_goku
Premier League
Would love to see him in an United shirt, but I have doubts that Woodward will be able to get him.
gerd
Retired Footballer
I think it would be better for him if he stayed in Wolfsburg for a couple of seasons.
- 24 November 2014
Why do Utd fans say this still? He brought in Mata, Di Maria and Falcao - who could see that coming?
I would LOVE Woodward at Arsenal instead of our clueless board.
- 24 November 2014
There is a City fan in Uni with me who is adament that there are more City fans in Manchester. I showed him this today, he is very quiet now!
bebo
Looking for a Manager
Those damn Chinese lol
- 24 November 2014
You get lots of Chinese people at the Emirates, Anfield and Old Trafford. But I dont care, they have a right to support Arsenal or Liverpool just like we all do.
They spend money on the club, they can support who they want.
They spend money on the club, they can support who they want.
gerd
Retired Footballer
About the De Bruyne rumours. Now Liverpool has also shown an intrest in him. De Bruyne's mother is England and since he was a kid the family followed English football. The De Bruyne family are Liverpool fans...
To be honest, i think most of these stories are bullshit. There is a slight cahnce that De Bruyne will leave Wolfsburg if they can buy or loan Schurrle and if they find aclub that is prepared to give at least 40 million euro's to buy him...
For De Bruyne's carreer it would be better if he stayed a couple of seasons at Wolfsburg.
To be honest, i think most of these stories are bullshit. There is a slight cahnce that De Bruyne will leave Wolfsburg if they can buy or loan Schurrle and if they find aclub that is prepared to give at least 40 million euro's to buy him...
For De Bruyne's carreer it would be better if he stayed a couple of seasons at Wolfsburg.
ss4_goku
Premier League
Mata was unwanted and a bit over priced. The others that came all have the same agent Jorge Mendes, so i'm not too surprised. Woodward only had to talk to one guy.
Godotelli
Stroking Silva's Hair
There is a City fan in Uni with me who is adament that there are more City fans in Manchester. I showed him this today, he is very quiet now!
You must believe that there are more Villa fans in Dublin than there are in Birmingham if you think that stat matches reality
- 24 November 2014
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Godotelli
Stroking Silva's Hair
You can trawl back through http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/search.php?searchid=5336838 and view our prior conversation on the topic if you've forgotten
bebo
Looking for a Manager
To think I thought you lots were the same person once.
Mark
il regista
- 8 August 2005
Naah, slow and stuttering first half against Cambridge. My girlfriend is already afraid of a drastic bad mood switch...
PIPA23
retired :)
- 21 June 2007
he would be ideal Gerrard replacement...but it won´t happend sadly.
ss4_goku
Premier League
I can't bear another upset. Already had two today (Federer in Australian Open and Japan in Asian Cup)...another one would be way too much to handle....
We're still quite slow in the play. By the time the players actually set up for attack, the cambridge players would already be back in numbers
We're still quite slow in the play. By the time the players actually set up for attack, the cambridge players would already be back in numbers
People often think football is 'easier' than it is.
Cambridge have been organised, played smartly (lots of falling down for such 'tough' league 2 fellas) and can easily run around with us for 45 minutes.
It's really hard to score against that. For any team, with any talent. There's no space, and the pitch is pretty bobbly which stops short passing/triangles.
I still expect United to win in the end, but it's just stupid to think we should be 5 goals up just because of reputation.
Also Chris Foy is hilarious. He's clearly doing his utmost to keep this tight. Looks to be holding our players to a higher standard of what it means to be fouled.
Cambridge have been organised, played smartly (lots of falling down for such 'tough' league 2 fellas) and can easily run around with us for 45 minutes.
It's really hard to score against that. For any team, with any talent. There's no space, and the pitch is pretty bobbly which stops short passing/triangles.
I still expect United to win in the end, but it's just stupid to think we should be 5 goals up just because of reputation.
Also Chris Foy is hilarious. He's clearly doing his utmost to keep this tight. Looks to be holding our players to a higher standard of what it means to be fouled.
ss4_goku
Premier League
well, I don't expect us to be 5 goals up, just a few more shots on target and testing their keeper more. OR maybe 1 goal in front if taht's too much..haha...
But yes, I do agree that Cambridge is very smart in the way that they are playing and its harder to scout lower teams and the football played is very different...
But yes, I do agree that Cambridge is very smart in the way that they are playing and its harder to scout lower teams and the football played is very different...
And there we go, bus parked, result achieved.
To be fair to the United players, it's just really difficult to do much better than that. In the second half we basically had 80% possession, all of the territorial advantage but on that surface, in that wind, what can you do?
There was a point when Valencia missed a simple pass, looked awful in real time. You see the replay, and a ball along the ground literally bounced 2 feet up right before it reached him off a divot. Not sure anyone in the world can play sikly football in that.
We created chances, Van Persie had the worst miss and we did look a different league apart in the second half. But sometimes you need some luck, and had none.
It'll be very, very different situation at Old Trafford.
To be fair to the United players, it's just really difficult to do much better than that. In the second half we basically had 80% possession, all of the territorial advantage but on that surface, in that wind, what can you do?
There was a point when Valencia missed a simple pass, looked awful in real time. You see the replay, and a ball along the ground literally bounced 2 feet up right before it reached him off a divot. Not sure anyone in the world can play sikly football in that.
We created chances, Van Persie had the worst miss and we did look a different league apart in the second half. But sometimes you need some luck, and had none.
It'll be very, very different situation at Old Trafford.
Godotelli
Stroking Silva's Hair
Well done on getting the replay 
The fact that they're a mid table 4th tier team that cost 0 is obviously irrelevant
On a more serious note, he makes a good point about De Gea
YouTube - Wouldn't Blame Him For Leaving! | Cambridge United 0 Manchester United 0 | REVIEW
I also don't understand why Herrera isn't playing. Whenever I've seen Utd play (I didn't know they were on tonight so didn't see your performance), the only time I've seen you pass the ball decently is when he's been on the pitch. His stats also backup what the eyes see with him being in the top 10 players stats wise on Squarka. Obviously stats can be misleading but he looks a good player - at least much better than what you have in there in terms of pass and move
The fact that they're a mid table 4th tier team that cost 0 is obviously irrelevant
On a more serious note, he makes a good point about De Gea
YouTube - Wouldn't Blame Him For Leaving! | Cambridge United 0 Manchester United 0 | REVIEW
I also don't understand why Herrera isn't playing. Whenever I've seen Utd play (I didn't know they were on tonight so didn't see your performance), the only time I've seen you pass the ball decently is when he's been on the pitch. His stats also backup what the eyes see with him being in the top 10 players stats wise on Squarka. Obviously stats can be misleading but he looks a good player - at least much better than what you have in there in terms of pass and move
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Liverbird
Omar Comin Yo
- 24 July 2009
Simple explanation. The manager is Louis Van Gaal.
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spektarm
Premier League
- 6 October 2006
- Team
- Manchester United
The problem with Van Gaal is (and I think it's been said already) he's trying to be smarter than everybody, he's trying to experiment way too much and it clearly isn't working, thus making him look silly at times.
It's inexplicable some of the stuff he does... Rooney in central midfield, Di Maria isolated up front, Phil fucking Jones taking corners, etc. Sticking to the basics is the thing we need right now to get us in the top 4, not tinkering with everything and everyone all the time. Januzaj has been fucked big time this season, Herrera as well, when both deserve to be regular starters.
Why not just go with a decent-ish back four such as Rafael, Jones, Rojo, Shaw and put Carrick and Blind in front of them for protection? Then you can have any trio including the likes of Di Maria, Mata, Rooney, Januzaj, Wilson and Herrera (who can drop to CM instead of Blind as well). Then choose one of Rooney, Falcao and RVP as the striker. Job done.
Our creative players are gonna be comfortable once they have freedom in attack. It's not only the 3-5-2 formation, it's the mindset "safety-first" which translates into attacking areas as well.
Van Gaal is clearly trying to establish a possession-based style for the near future but at the moment his "philosophy" strongly resembles the way Barca were playing in 2013 and 2014 - just recycle possession, bore everyone to sleep and do absolutely nothing with it. I somehow can see his plan work sometime in the future but can he really persist with it? Because it doesn't seem like we are bound to finish in the top 4.
He surely needs a reminder that this year this is an absolute MUST.
It's inexplicable some of the stuff he does... Rooney in central midfield, Di Maria isolated up front, Phil fucking Jones taking corners, etc. Sticking to the basics is the thing we need right now to get us in the top 4, not tinkering with everything and everyone all the time. Januzaj has been fucked big time this season, Herrera as well, when both deserve to be regular starters.
Why not just go with a decent-ish back four such as Rafael, Jones, Rojo, Shaw and put Carrick and Blind in front of them for protection? Then you can have any trio including the likes of Di Maria, Mata, Rooney, Januzaj, Wilson and Herrera (who can drop to CM instead of Blind as well). Then choose one of Rooney, Falcao and RVP as the striker. Job done.
Our creative players are gonna be comfortable once they have freedom in attack. It's not only the 3-5-2 formation, it's the mindset "safety-first" which translates into attacking areas as well.
Van Gaal is clearly trying to establish a possession-based style for the near future but at the moment his "philosophy" strongly resembles the way Barca were playing in 2013 and 2014 - just recycle possession, bore everyone to sleep and do absolutely nothing with it. I somehow can see his plan work sometime in the future but can he really persist with it? Because it doesn't seem like we are bound to finish in the top 4.
He surely needs a reminder that this year this is an absolute MUST.
Liverbird
Omar Comin Yo
- 24 July 2009
Completely agree with you. And I honestly think he is the most overated manager in the world. The praise he got on the media during and after the World Cup was ridiculous. He is an ok/average manager, who somehow got the title of world class by some people.