Manchester United Thread

[PIPA23]

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you were great before Rooney and you still remain big team without him..simple as that..you will manage i am shure.. probably you will find a better player to replace him..

like mentioned above..you need to find more replacement for GK and CM..

Rooney departure if he will go for shure.. would mean you need to find new talisman player for future..

but as Liverpool supporter i always seen Rooney as loayal and somehow grown up about now...

all in all, must be the money some other club is offering him. (City imo.)

 

[quiet_riot]

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:lol:

I love how quickly football fans turn.

 

[TikTikTikTikTik]

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Rooney just released a statement, pretty much confirming what most of the fans were afraid of; "No guarentees that the club will invest in the squad".

Seems you lot are where we were two years ago. I wish the owners would just f#$k off. I mean I love to see Utd do badly, but not like this. It has nothing to do with football or sporting achievement but is purely down to a bunck of c#$ts who think it's a good business investment to buy clubs on loan. I wonder how the Glazers are looking at the club now, seeing what's happend to Liverpool and the big loss H+G ended up making.

I can't see Utd creating much more commercial income (they are already the 2nd biggest sporting brand behind the Yankees if I remember correctly) and a lack of succes won't help either. And now they will have less and less world stars to sell shirts.

Wouldn't be surprised to see the owners try to strip the club of as much assets and income the coming years just to make sure they break even or make a small profit as I can't see much good coming from interest payments at a rate of 16,25%.

 

[ss4_goku]

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Watching the champions league game, and the commentators made a very interesting point about this Rooney's request to leave. In comparison to Ronaldo's request to leave, SAF kept it under wraps to the best of his ability and tried his best in insisting and persuading Ronaldo to stay (he did it for a long time...almost a year i believe?). And now for Rooney...if the request was on August 14, then its just 2 months, and SAF didn't just keep it under wraps, but he came out and told the whole story to everyone...

Do you think there's some difference in there, or how maybe SAF has made up his mind that its ok to part ways with Rooney, compared to Ronaldo?

and to those that are watching the match...is there something wrong with the pitch or people's boots? They're all falling and slipping so often...Some led to dangerous counter attacks for either side...

 

[PIPA23]

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I belive Ferguson was building Manchester United future around Rooney..so there is difference and i do belive it hurts for him to know Rooney thinks different.

 

[bebo]

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Mixed emotions don`t think I ever heard a lame excuse as ambition before , from a club that won so many trophies of late . He` s 24 yrs old Where`s all the MUTD nutters at now...Darkmoth! I do think Fergie is numb by the fact Rooney dropped the same bomb ,Fab left to Wenger ,but the difference here is Fab didn`t have a break down in his personal life . Rooney did admit he owes his career to Fergie...very strange scenario indeed. This might keep Liverpool w/ the most success yet.

 

[RuneEdge]

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I think people here are misundertanding what was said. He didnt say ambition in terms of trophies and success, his problem is with the lack of players being bought and the ambition in terms of investing in the squad.
Still a lame excuse but one you cant point to and say "that's bullshit".

 

[bebo]

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He did say I want to win trophies though along w/ No world class players coming in, Bebe n Henandez didnt fit the description . On top of that the excuse slaps the face of every MUTD player unless they feel the same way. You lots better start looking in every nook n cranny in Portugal then. There`s rumors Ronaldo has a brother on the loose.

 

[Jumbo_]

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Watching the champions league game, and the commentators made a very interesting point about this Rooney's request to leave. In comparison to Ronaldo's request to leave, SAF kept it under wraps to the best of his ability and tried his best in insisting and persuading Ronaldo to stay (he did it for a long time...almost a year i believe?). And now for Rooney...if the request was on August 14, then its just 2 months, and SAF didn't just keep it under wraps, but he came out and told the whole story to everyone...

Do you think there's some difference in there, or how maybe SAF has made up his mind that its ok to part ways with Rooney, compared to Ronaldo?

and to those that are watching the match...is there something wrong with the pitch or people's boots? They're all falling and slipping so often...Some led to dangerous counter attacks for either side...

Ferguson obviously thought they could sort something out during the season. Rooney was playing poorly, he'd contradicted himself and Ferguson to the media regarding the injury and then his camp leaked the story that he wouldnt sign a new contract. Media goes crazy and Fergie had no option but to respond with the facts.

Ronaldo never said he wanted to stay for life, he made it clear Real was his dream, that's the difference. Rooney effectively betrayed SAF.

I think people here are misundertanding what was said. He didnt say ambition in terms of trophies and success, his problem is with the lack of players being bought and the ambition in terms of investing in the squad.
Still a lame excuse but one you cant point to and say "that's bullshit".

I know what you mean but when have we ever signed 'the top players in the world' as Wayne puts it. I can't think of one, aside from maybe Veron, who we have. Traditionally, we have signed established or up and coming players already playing in our league, as well as promising players from around the world. We tend to make stars rather than buy them. Wayne's been playing too much FIFA.

Where would he be playing now if we hadn't risked paying all that money for him as an 18 year old and bought one of the 'top players in the world' instead? Everton or Newcastle, and who knows which way his career would have panned out if that had've happened.

He said 'for me it's about winning trophies' that says he doesn't think we're capable anymore as we haven't gone out and spaffed money on hyped big names. Totally disrespectful to the rest of the squad. I hope it doesn't affect Smalling, Bebe or Hernandez hearing him say that.

His agent's clearly been negotiating deals behind the scenes and he's had his head turned.

 

[matherto]

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Never been as dissatisfied with a United win as I was tonight.

Shite week + shite performance = couldn't care less about them at the minute.

 

[RuneEdge]

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Ronaldo never said he wanted to stay for life, he made it clear Real was his dream, that's the difference. Rooney effectively betrayed SAF.

I think that's what makes it hard for me to accept him back if he did decide to stay. Its a shame really. First he loses his in-law's support and now the fans too. The idiot needs to get his head screwed.

I know what you mean but when have we ever signed 'the top players in the world' as Wayne puts it. I can't think of one, aside from maybe Veron, who we have. Traditionally, we have signed established or up and coming players already playing in our league, as well as promising players from around the world. We tend to make stars rather than buy them. Wayne's been playing too much FIFA.

Where would he be playing now if we hadn't risked paying all that money for him as an 18 year old and bought one of the 'top players in the world' instead? Everton or Newcastle, and who knows which way his career would have panned out if that had've happened.

He said 'for me it's about winning trophies' that says he doesn't think we're capable anymore as we haven't gone out and spaffed money on hyped big names. Totally disrespectful to the rest of the squad. I hope it doesn't affect Smalling, Bebe or Hernandez hearing him say that.

His agent's clearly been negotiating deals behind the scenes and he's had his head turned.

When I (or Wayne rather) say that we havent invested in the club, its pretty obvious what that means. 2 years ago we lost Ronaldo, who was at the time the best player on the planet and had all the accolades to back him up too. We also lost Tevez and lets be honest, it was a huge mistake. He was underused and underappreciated. And now he's at a club where he's the captain and he's putting in the goals and performances. Say what you want but that's two huge losses for us, and the fact that they happened in the same transfer window didnt help.
And since then, what have we won? We went from two back to back Premiership titles, 2 Champion's League finals, to a measly Carling Cup. And Rooney or no Rooney, we look like we're on a steady decline.
Now if we had reinvested the £80million Ronaldo money on more top quality players (The only one we have is Berba and he was bought before Ronaldo left so he dont count), atleast we can hold our hands up and say "we werent good enough". But the fact that we havent bought top players, its hard not to say that's the root of all our problems.

With that said, I'm not sticking up for Wayne. I reckon he has to go after disrespecting us. The main issue for me now is that this incident has further confirmed that the Glazers must go. If the loss of Rooney meant the Glazer's sold our club and then I'm all for it.

 

[Milanista]

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I'm so disappointed in Rooney. I genuinely thought he was going to be a star and be a United symbol forever. I guess I was wrong.

 

[YoungGun_UK]

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Rune you make out that winning 3 Premierships and reaching 2 Champions League finals and then following that up with a "measly" Carling Cup is shock horror and a clear sign of decline. Were you expecting us to win the treble AFTER selling our best player? That's ridiculously successful for FM let alone reality.

Its clear that he's got a pre-agreement with a club (Probably City) and that's the only thing that's changed and no matter how much he tries to spin it into a lack of investment it just makes him look a bigger cunt than before.

SAF says it will be sorted tomorrow morning and that will be that, expect Rooney to be suspended till January when he's shipped off. Great statement from him on the official site about the clubs ambition

"We realised that to maintain that high consistency of being there challenging we had to inject youth into the club and we’ve been doing it for the last three or four years. We realised some years ago that Giggs, Scholes and Neville were never going to last forever and our policy is therefore to develop players within the club. We had a player that once said to me Rooney and Ronaldo weren’t good enough. Can you believe that? He actually said they weren’t good enough and he wasn’t prepared to wait until they were. That’s what happens, that’s the problem with potential – people don’t identify potential, they’re very poor at it. I’ve identified it all my life within young people – I know potential, I know how it can be developed and I know how to have faith in it - young people surprise you when you give them an opportunity. And that’s what this club is about. So when you see Manchester United at the moment with all these young players, you can’t see Manchester United three years ahead because you’re not thinking about that.

"We will invest in players when the time is ready. This summer wasn’t the right time as far as I was concerned; there was no value for me. There was one player who we would have liked to have got but he chose another club. I don’t think he ever wanted to come to England anyway. Some players don’t wantto leave their country, it’s a fact of life, some players are happy in their own country. Some players are happy to leave and Manchester United is always a big attraction for any player. If they don’t want to leave their country then we forget about it.

"In terms of the future of Manchester United there are a lot of things in my favour – history, the respect we have from people – if I told you how many agents phone my secretary every week about players who would love to play for us - and I don’t just mean run of the mill players, I’m talking about players at almost every club in the world - it would amaze you. It’s because this club still has that fantastic romance and respect from everyone.

"Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it’s a better cow than the one you’ve got in your own field. It’s a fact. But it never really works out that way. It’s probably the same cow which is only as good as your own cow. We have to deal with that – some players like to think that it’s a better world somewhere else, it never really works like that.

"As I said, three Premier League titles in a row is fantastic and we were within one point of a record fourth. It didn’t happen for us and we didn’t like that and we want to do something about it. We’ll be okay – I’ve got every confidence in that. We have a structure at the club which is good, we have the right staff, the right manager, the right chief executive, he’s a brilliant man. There’s nothing wrong with Manchester United, not a thing wrong with it. So we’ll carry on."

Great goal by Nani tonight, hopefully he keeps up this form as were going to need it in the coming months.

 

[PLF]

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I can see United grabbing Benzema from Real to replace Rooney and giving him a new lease of life and Karim regaining old form and developing into the monster of a player he once was and even better!

Having said that, maybe I'm an optimist or just have a lot of faith in Hernandez, but though he missed a good chance in his cameo appearance tonight, I can see young Chicharito become the successor to Rooney in the not too distant future anyway. The lad is young, hungry, talented, super fast, and has a natural nose for goal. He's growing in confidence with every match and month that he stays at the club and gets integrated into the whole system more and culture, language, etc. and I can see him score LOTS and LOTS of goals for United, spearheading the attack and becoming an EPL and world superstar in the next few years.

 

[Ogami]

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Would have been nice to see Hernandez score tonight. I have faith in this guy.

Not a great performance overall, but at least it didn't look like Bursapor were about to score.

Evra was a beast yesterday. The guy who was in front of him was supposed to be their most dangerous player but we didn't see him all night long. I hope he keeps this form from now on.

 

[Jamesy]

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I thought Rafael stood out as well - especially that last ditch tackle in the second half to save Vidic from humilation.
You have to imagine Fergie's team talk for the rest of the season is easy now - 'Prove him wrong'.

City aren't going to overtake Utd for a long lone time? Really? Sure, it'd take a long time to match Utd's list of trophies but that's only one way to look at it and a pretty poor one at that. Take the logic elsewhere and you'd be saying that Chelsea havn't overtaken Liverppol, Arsenal or Villa. But of course they have.
What use is it for a player to say "I play for a club that used to dominate but no longer do"?
If City cement themseleves above Utd then City have overtaken Utd. Football is played in the present, not the past.

I was just mentioning what was said, but I took it to mean that when people think of United & Liverpool they think of the history & success the clubs have had, and want to be a part of a new successful chapter. Compared to Chelsea & City, it's more about helping them to start an historic run, but (rightly or wrongly) you can't help but also think about £££.
Even with our success a lot of Liverpool fans said we would never match them. Then we equalled their 18 titles...

With his form, and the contract situation the way it is, there's no way we're getting a big fee for him.

I know we won't get silly money like we did for Ronaldo. I'm just hoping it's not a stupid arrangement like we've done before, like £25m over 5 years for Beckham.

 

[quiet_riot]

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Its clear that he's got a pre-agreement with a club (Probably City)

Except that'd be completely illegal and would put both the club and Rooney at risk of banning orders.




Maybe he just has more brains that anyone gives him credit for, and he wants off the sinking ship of debt?

 

[FreMM]

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The cunt can fuck right off!! No United supporter, but I'm so dissapointed in footballers nowadays. What ever happened to playing for a shirt, the supporters, the heart of a club??
Sick and tired of all these whores like Zlatan etc kissing every shirt for the highest bidder. I am all for a salary and transfer cap.
As for City, I really hope all this money throwing comes back, bites em in the ass and makes them step back into reality.
Football used to be about the team on the pitch and not about how much money the clubs can offer. FUCK YOU REAL AND CITY!!!

 

[quiet_riot]

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As for City, I really hope all this money throwing comes back, bites em in the ass and makes them step back into reality.
Football used to be about the team on the pitch and not about how much money the clubs can offer. FUCK YOU REAL AND CITY!!!

You say it like we're the first...United brought all this about, they broke the transfer record something like 7 times in ten years.

Besides, we neither want, nor need an overpriced Rooney. We have King Carlos

 

[Lami]

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I'm so disappointed in Rooney. I genuinely thought he was going to be a star and be a United symbol forever. I guess I was wrong.

The cunt can fuck right off!! No United supporter, but I'm so dissapointed in footballers nowadays. What ever happened to playing for a shirt, the supporters, the heart of a club??

It is very sad indeed.

 

[cfdh_edmundo]

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Ferguson obviously thought they could sort something out during the season. Rooney was playing poorly, he'd contradicted himself and Ferguson to the media regarding the injury and then his camp leaked the story that he wouldnt sign a new contract. Media goes crazy and Fergie had no option but to respond with the facts.

Ronaldo never said he wanted to stay for life, he made it clear Real was his dream, that's the difference. Rooney effectively betrayed SAF.



I know what you mean but when have we ever signed 'the top players in the world' as Wayne puts it. I can't think of one, aside from maybe Veron, who we have. Traditionally, we have signed established or up and coming players already playing in our league, as well as promising players from around the world. We tend to make stars rather than buy them. Wayne's been playing too much FIFA.

Where would he be playing now if we hadn't risked paying all that money for him as an 18 year old and bought one of the 'top players in the world' instead? Everton or Newcastle, and who knows which way his career would have panned out if that had've happened.

He said 'for me it's about winning trophies' that says he doesn't think we're capable anymore as we haven't gone out and spaffed money on hyped big names. Totally disrespectful to the rest of the squad. I hope it doesn't affect Smalling, Bebe or Hernandez hearing him say that.

His agent's clearly been negotiating deals behind the scenes and he's had his head turned.

Ferdinand was the most expensive British british player in history when you signed him in 2002 and the most expensive defender in the world (beating Thuram) at the time. Barthez was the record transfer fee for a goalkeeper in the UK. Andy Cole was the most expensive transfer in British history when you signed him in Jan 1995. Veron was a UK record transfer too. Even relativly recently you've also signed Berbatov for £30m.

2-3 years ago you had, on paper, what could have been described as the best strike force in the UK, maybe even the world - Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney. Now it looks like all 3 are gone, and the days of you spending £20-30 million on the likes of Veron / Berbatov seem to be behind you. The team is getting very old in key areas (Giggs, Scholes, Van Der Saaar) and unless serious money is spent how can these players be adequatly replaced ? Sure, Fergie can tow the party line about growing youth players into the team, etc etc, but there will be gaps of at least 3-4 years and even then you can't assume youth players will reach their potential (look at him shipping out Ben Foster).

Even the likes of Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Berbatov are approaching 29/30, so by the time the youth players (may) have developed to replace Scholes, Giggs, Van Der Saar, say 4 years down the line, these other players will need replacing.

I wouldnt say you're a sinking ship, but you are not competing the way you used to in terms of transfers. There is no Andy Cole or Dwight Yorke being brought in to strengthen the team immediatly. It looks like you're in a financial tight spot, and you might need to take a Wenger-esque approach and sign young players to keep building up a team. The difference is it looks like finances will improve for Arsenal as they've nearly paid off the stadium debt and are financially sucessfull. The debt that looms over Old Trafford doesnt look like it will go away for a while.

Rooney has asked for assurances about signing players and he hasnt got answers that make him optimistic, that seems to be the main reason why he looking to leave.

 

[RuneEdge]

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Rune you make out that winning 3 Premierships and reaching 2 Champions League finals and then following that up with a "measly" Carling Cup is shock horror and a clear sign of decline.

If that isnt a sign of decline, what is? And from the looks of things, its not gonna improve significantly within the next year either. With Valencia out, we can only really look to Berba, Nani and maybe Chicharito to help this team move forward. Does this sound like anywhere near the quality of the team we had 2-3 years ago?

EDIT
Also bare in mind our keeper is getting old, the defence isnt as stable as it used to be and our midfield is not as consistant as we were hoping it to be. Plus Scholes is reaching the end of his career and Hargo hasnt played a game in years, literally.

 

[lo zio]

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I can see United grabbing Benzema from Real to replace Rooney and giving him a new lease of life and Karim regaining old form and developing into the monster of a player he once was and even better!

i have exactly the same feeling

I'm so disappointed in Rooney. I genuinely thought he was going to be a star and be a United symbol forever. I guess I was wrong.

indeed. what a huge disappointment. i've honetly lost respect for rooney. and what a lame excuse is that? not having guarrantees about the team competitiveness in future? why on earth his agent even suggested him to say such a stupid thing! man utd has a fantastic team, with lots of players in their prime, and many young players... what does this idiot expect from his club? to splash millions on useless "big names" every season just for the sake of it?
it would have been better if he would have just said "i want a new experience in another place".... he would have preserved his dignity at least.

i'm not one of those fans who label as "mercenary" every player who wants to move to a different club. maybe i'm less naive... or maybe i'm just more cynical than some other people... i don't know.
but it's not just about leaving your club.... it's also about HOW u leave it. how u handle the whole situation. i don't think rooney owes some sort of an eternal loyalty to man utd. u're a professional, u wanna leave? ok then. but at least be honest with yourself, with your club and with the fans who supported u all theese years.
dignity and honesty. that's what he owes man utd.... that's also what he owes to himself actually, but i guess he doesn't care that much about his dignity and personal image afterall.

 

[bebo]

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@ cfdh_edmundo good post

 

[Jumbo_]

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Ferdinand was the most expensive British british player in history when you signed him in 2002 and the most expensive defender in the world (beating Thuram) at the time. Barthez was the record transfer fee for a goalkeeper in the UK. Andy Cole was the most expensive transfer in British history when you signed him in Jan 1995. Veron was a UK record transfer too. Even relativly recently you've also signed Berbatov for £30m.

2-3 years ago you had, on paper, what could have been described as the best strike force in the UK, maybe even the world - Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney. Now it looks like all 3 are gone, and the days of you spending £20-30 million on the likes of Veron / Berbatov seem to be behind you. The team is getting very old in key areas (Giggs, Scholes, Van Der Saaar) and unless serious money is spent how can these players be adequatly replaced ? Sure, Fergie can tow the party line about growing youth players into the team, etc etc, but there will be gaps of at least 3-4 years and even then you can't assume youth players will reach their potential (look at him shipping out Ben Foster).

Even the likes of Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Berbatov are approaching 29/30, so by the time the youth players (may) have developed to replace Scholes, Giggs, Van Der Saar, say 4 years down the line, these other players will need replacing.

I wouldnt say you're a sinking ship, but you are not competing the way you used to in terms of transfers. There is no Andy Cole or Dwight Yorke being brought in to strengthen the team immediatly. It looks like you're in a financial tight spot, and you might need to take a Wenger-esque approach and sign young players to keep building up a team. The difference is it looks like finances will improve for Arsenal as they've nearly paid off the stadium debt and are financially sucessfull. The debt that looms over Old Trafford doesnt look like it will go away for a while.

Rooney has asked for assurances about signing players and he hasnt got answers that make him optimistic, that seems to be the main reason why he looking to leave.

I take your point mate, but I didn't say we didn't ever spend big money, I said we didn't buy the worlds best players and we haven't.

Veron like I said was one that broke the mould and I forgot Barthez, he was very highly rated when we signed him.

But the others, were either promising foreigners or the better players at other clubs in the league.

Andy Cole: lots of goals but only 15 England caps, a bit like Darren Bent in a sense. That transfer record was broken by Arsenal only a few months later.
Ferdinand: wasn't the best in the world when we signed him (despite the price tag), he didn't reach that level until 2008
Berbatov: Bulgaria's best player, but I've never heard him mentioned as one of the worlds best strikers.
Yorke: Again, proven in the domestic league but not seen as one of the worlds best players when we signed him
Van Nistelrooy: Great record in Holland but injury prone and certainly a risk
Nani: Promising player
Anderson: As above

This season we've signed Bebe for £7m, Chris Smalling for £10-12m and Hernandez for £7-10m. Hernandez had a fantastic World Cup and looks to be one of the most promising young goalscorers in the game, just because nobody had heard of him a year ago does that mean we lack ambition and financial clout? Or does it just mean our scouting's got better? Smalling looks brilliant too, just one who slipped through the net and ended up playing lower division football instead of in an academy, Arsenal wanted him too remember. Bebe is a strange one but if we can spend £7m on him without knowing much about him then we're not penny pinching there.

I accept we're not spending as much, that much is obvious but after the criticism we got for spending big money on Berbatov, Nani and Anderson as they didn't settle in straight away can you blame Ferguson for trying to do it a bit differently?


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Nice to read in the paper this morning "United began life without Wayne Rooney and the future doesn't look too good" etc, conveniently forgetting that would also be an insight into life without Berbatov, Valencia, Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand and Van Der Sar. Plus Fergie indicated he's got plans to spend money when the time's right.

 

[PIPA23]

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this collage is better in quality but Rooney to me looks best in United shirt.. i dont want to sound like i feel for United but this things are called just same everywere..no matter the club..his statements are big betrayal imo.. to the club and fans..

 

[bebo]

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I disagree , Fab made a statement , no betrayal . Gerrard made a statement to join Chels, no betrayal. Rooney could stay bang in goals all forgiven. Betrayals is an emotional state (time period) he was not hiding nothing the Club knew his stance . I`m sure Fergie had to act shocked ,but he has an imagine n players to protect . Remember we are looking at this from different views , fragments of info are coming into light. Mourinho said stay in MUTD forever , he will be there soon lol

 

[PIPA23]

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but Fabregas and Gerrard had a point to join the clubs in past...they wanted or want to win trophys..

while we all know United dont have problems to win trophys the years ago and still Rooney feels to make such comments..

to me it is bullshit and i belive that Fabregas will stay in arsenal for longer than other think and Gerrard will stay for life in LFC.

Rooney in other hand could well end up like Owen...i fear that like football fan..

 

[bebo]

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but Fabregas and Gerrard had a point to join the clubs in past...they wanted or want to win trophys..

while we all know United dont have problems to win trophys the years ago and still Rooney feels to make such comments..

to me it is bullshit and i belive that Fabregas will stay in arsenal for longer than other think and Gerrard will stay for life in LFC.

Rooney in other hand could well end up like Owen...i fear that like football fan..

very KINDA words... I really think Rooney will stay 160k will do it! Roon will be nuts to move anywhere else that`s why Gerrard stayed. I just can`t wait to laugh at all these fans in here the fickle bunch , just like we were in the summer

 

[ilfenomeno]

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rooney goes and torres comes instead, this is no guess, it's almost a fact