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Manchester United Thread

Nickybaker said:
loz said:
people if ya want a pires vs ronaldo discussion go do it somewhere else. this is the united thread and if you gooners are gona start arguments ya gooner (ged it ;) ) get yaselves booked.
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Where is there to argue though???? Not that i'm really fussed.
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make a pires vs ronaldo thread, i'm sure it'd be very popular. thats for debate and discussion, but all this arguing and telling each other to f-off will not be tolerated on the forums.
 
loz said:
people if ya want a pires vs ronaldo discussion go do it somewhere else. this is the united thread and if you gooners are gona start arguments ya gooner (ged it ;) ) get yaselves booked.
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C'mon Loz its United related, aslong as it doesnt get stupid then theres no prob...
 
Ahhh the memories.......

Thursday January 26, 1995


"Oi, Monsieur Cantona, it's an early shower for you"

Manchester United failed to go top of the Premiership last night but that turned out to be the least of their problems. Yet again Old Trafford's season has been thrown into turmoil by the nitro-glycerine in human form that is Eric Cantona.
For the record, Crystal Palace deservedly took a point from a scrappy, scruffy match after Gareth Southgate had brought the scores level 11 minutes from the end, David May having given United the lead early in the second half. Thus Blackburn Rovers still lead the Premiership, albeit by one point, and they now have two matches in hand.

The rest paled into insignificance compared with the off-field activities of Cantona, who briefly went berserk four minutes after half-time. The Frenchman had an thoroughly unhappy evening: from the outset he was complaining about some of the tackling he received and when Shaw caught him from behind in the 48th minute the notoriously short Gallic fuse was reignited.

A linesman flagged as Shaw's tackle went in, and if the referee, Alan Wilkie, had stopped the play at that point considerable trouble would have been avoided. As it was, Cantona kicked Shaw as the pair went for a high clearance from Schmeichel seconds later.

Out came the red card and off went Cantona, for the fifth time in 16 months. As he walked along the touchline towards the dressing room a young spectator raced to the front of the stand and as well as hurling abuse, verbal and digital, at the Frenchman he appeared to throw something as well.

Cantona immediately leapt at the fan, both feet coming in chest-high. The Frenchman then threw several punches before police, stewards, team officials and other players pulled the pair apart. In the melee Ince appeared to swing a fist at another fan.

Two spectators were taken to South Norwood police station complaining of assault. Cantona now faces another ban for the dismissal and an even longer suspension by the Football Association which will, in turn, depend on what the police decide to do once they have studied the incident on video.

Chief Supt Terry Collins said that both Ince and Cantona, who were allowed to travel home, would be interviewed by police during the next 48 hours. 'I've never seen anything like it in my life,' he added. 'There could have been a riot.'

The FA was prompt in issuing a statement last night which made the severity of the incidents clear and hinted at equally severe sanctions against Cantona.

The statement said: 'The FA are appalled by the incident that took place by the side of the pitch at Selhurst Park tonight. Such an incident brings shame on those involved as well as, more importantly, on the game itself.

'The FA is aware that the police are urgently considering what action they should take. We will as always co-operate in every way with them. And as far as the FA itself is concerned, charges of improper conduct and of bringing the game into disrepute will inevitably and swiftly follow tonight's events.

'It is our responsibility to ensure that actions that damage the game are punished severely. The FA will live up to that responsibility.'

The FA customarily takes a grim view of players and managers assaulting fans. Brian Clough was banned from the touchline for a spell after cuffing a pitch invader. Given Cantona's already poor disciplinary record, he may well be facing a lengthy suspension just when Manchester United need him most.

Gifted footballer though he is, the Frenchman has again demonstrated the fatal flaw in his temperament which eventually saw him quit league football in France after a series of run-ins with the authorities.

Since joining Manchester United from Leeds he has proved inspirational in the winning of two championships as well as last season's league and FA Cup double, but the devil in his make-up has never really gone away.

In last season's European Cup he was shown the red card at the end of the game against Galatasaray in Istanbul for calling the referee a cheat, having already punched the Turkish team's reserve goalkeeper as he sat on the bench.

Last March he was shown two red cards in four days, at Swindon and Arsenal, and he began this season under suspension having been dismissed at Ibrox.

Last night, on a heavy pitch which cut up badly and with Cole still ill-attuned to his new surroundings, Manchester United needed Cantona at his best, not his insufferable worst. After all, two seasons ago an outstanding goal from the Frenchman against Palace at Selhurst had set United up for the title.

Last night their passing did not improve until the few minutes allowed in the second half before all hell broke loose. Palace had created the clearer scoring chances up to that point, but within six minutes of Cantona's explosion May headed Sharpe's cross past Martyn to score his first league goal for United since arriving from Blackburn.

'Strange: all the fuss seemed to affect us more than them,' said Palace's manager Alan Smith. Ten-man United did reorganise themselves well and as Sharpe hit the bar they seemed bound for the top of the Premiership once more.

Then May's slowness let in Salako, whose shot was blocked, and amid a tumble of bodies Southgate's cool shot brought the scores level.

Crystal Palace: Martyn Patterson, Shaw, Coleman, Gordon, Southgate, Pitcher, Newman, Salako, Dowie (Preece, 75min), Armstrong.


Manchester United: Schmeichel Keane, May, Pallister, Irwin, Giggs, McClair, Ince, Sharpe, (Kanchelskis, 82), Cantona, Cole.


Referee: A Wilkie (Chester-le-Street).

Manchester United: Schmeichel Keane, May, Pallister, Irwin, Giggs, McClair, Ince, Sharpe, (Kanchelskis, 82), Cantona, Cole.

Now that was a team!!!!!

I still remember this so vividly, I listened to the game on the radio and I couldnt get my head round what the commentator was saying, when I saw it, and the guy he did it too it just cemented Cantona's place in the Mancunian Halls of Fame.

Legend!!

And I'd of the 95 team, i'd still take most of them over the majority of players we've got today.....
 
Bout the Ronaldo thingy,where he is now in terms of skills and technique is an understatement.He is only 18 and will only get better,as he learned to compose his game,he should be devastating in the future or when he reach 20,just like Reyes.
 
loz said:
make a pires vs ronaldo thread, i'm sure it'd be very popular. thats for debate and discussion, but all this arguing and telling each other to f-off will not be tolerated on the forums.
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I don't see how, this is a stupid argument. Pires is twice the player Ronaldo is. if Ronaldo wasn't such a trick pony and actually concentrated on playing the game instead of fart assing around he may well be great, but the sad fact of the matter is that he is not great and a mere show pony.
 
Johnny Utah said:
loz said:
make a pires vs ronaldo thread, i'm sure it'd be very popular. thats for debate and discussion, but all this arguing and telling each other to f-off will not be tolerated on the forums.
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I don't see how, this is a stupid argument. Pires is twice the player Ronaldo is. if Ronaldo wasn't such a trick pony and actually concentrated on playing the game instead of fart assing around he may well be great, but the sad fact of the matter is that he is not great and a mere show pony.
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Wot a prick! leave the boy alone we all no pires is beta than ronaldo but hes bloody 18 years old! how olds pires? as far as a 1 trik pony pires runs like hes got sumfing up his arse plus this is ronaldos 1st season he needs time.

Him diving pires is a cheat dnt cloud ur judgement n reyes is use to the divin spanish league lets c if he dives u mite not b so quik 2 judge then will u?
 
I don't see how, this is a stupid argument. Pires is twice the player Ronaldo is. if Ronaldo wasn't such a trick pony and actually concentrated on playing the game instead of fart assing around he may well be great, but the sad fact of the matter is that he is not great and a mere show pony
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Johnny Utah doesn`t know what he is talking about. Ronaldo is 18 for the 50th time - how can you compare him to an established player like Pires? Pires has his faults - he is slow, dives too much, doesn`t like tracking back and defending (good wingers in the Premiership usually get back and defend, too) and gets pushed off the ball far too easily, and can never figure out why he gets tackled and calls "FOUL!" :D
 
cmon, FFS, either listen to loz or shut the fuck up about ronaldo!! no more complaining about ronaldo... pires... or reyes for that matter too! one more and the mods have better do something about it (unless it was in the "Ronaldo bitching thread") OK?!

-azn
 
Dont worry footie im looking at which one i fancy carding first :mrgreen:

seriously now if you want an arguement make an arguement thread and ill lock it and yellow card everyone who posts in there for flaming. in short, listen to loz.
 
I asked in the celtic thread what was happening with our young Miller.

Seems as though the lads been getting a hard time.

Celtic starlet John Kennedy has revealed close friend Liam Miller has been having a rough ride since signing a pre-contractual agreement with Manchester United.

The 22-year-old has not figured in the first team since news broke that he had turned his back on a new deal but that has not stopped him getting flak from angry fans.

"He's handled it great," said Kennedy. "I'm really friendly with Liam and quite close to him.

"It's his decision and when an offer like that comes along it's hard for players, never mind a young player like Liam who has just come into the team.

"Liam's such a great player - all the fans and the country have seen that. I hope he does well down there.

"It's a hard time for him at the minute and he's been getting flak from people so he is just keeping quiet, keeping his head down and keeping himself to himself.

"He's quiet to people he doesn't know. He's got his close friends.

"He's said himself that he was a Celtic and Manchester United fan so it's obviously going to hurt to leave the club.

"He's been doing so well and was loving it and Manchester United came along and he decided to do that."

Im looking forward to having this kid join us in the summer, I think playing with Sheasy and Keano will be great for the lads codfidence.
 
Yeah I`ve heard good things about that Miller. It will do him the world of good leaving the farcical Scottish "Premier League".
 
ninjabreakz said:
Yeah I`ve heard good things about that Miller. It will do him the world of good leaving the farcical Scottish "Premier League".
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Wow you must have seen some big postage stamps!!!!!
 
metallica said:
Nickybaker said:
ninjabreakz said:
Yeah I`ve heard good things about that Miller. It will do him the world of good leaving the farcical Scottish "Premier League".
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Wow you must have seen some big postage stamps!!!!!
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WHAT ? has that got to do with postage stamps
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I posted in the wrong forum, I am going crazy???? :oops: :oops: :oops: :twisted:
 
Goaaaaaaaaaaaaaal for Saha. Well, he`s gonna prove a few people wrong I think . . . . Get in there Scholes! Rude boy! 3-2, revenge on the Saints. They did put up a fight though . . .
 
Pfft, it was never his goal, Philips cleary moved towards the ball and headed it, OG.

Great, great game though, Southampton really gave it go and were desperately unlucky at the end with the overhead kick hitting the bar twice then the slightest of touches meaning the ball went through Philips' legs when he was a yard out.

Having said that, Man Utd should have had a penalty with that handball, though it evened out because RvN was offside (this 'new rule' stuff is bollocks IMO, if the ball is played into the 6 yard box and a player in the 6 yard box is offside, of course he's interfering with play) for the resulting strike. Should have had a penalty when Higgenbotham fouled RvN later on too.

Silvestre had a bit of a nightmare, Howard made some good saves but made 2 horrendous errors as well.

Great game :).
 
ClassicD said:
Pfft, it was never his goal, Philips cleary moved towards the ball and headed it, OG.

Great, great game though, Southampton really gave it go and were desperately unlucky at the end with the overhead kick hitting the bar twice then the slightest of touches meaning the ball went through Philips' legs when he was a yard out.

Having said that, Man Utd should have had a penalty with that handball, though it evened out because RvN was offside (this 'new rule' stuff is bollocks IMO, if the ball is played into the 6 yard box and a player in the 6 yard box is offside, of course he's interfering with play) for the resulting strike. Should have had a penalty when Higgenbotham fouled RvN later on too.

Silvestre had a bit of a nightmare, Howard made some good saves but made 2 horrendous errors as well.

Great game :).
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It was entertaining. What is the "big" game in Scotland today? ;)
 
Scrappy game today,maybe due to the conditions,the pitch is starting to cut up a bit aint it? Good debut from Saha in the end,still need some tweaking on his understanding with his new team mates though.Big ups to Soton for a typically Strachan style game play.
 
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