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Manchester United Thread

Take 'em all on I say. (Yes, in one mad game with about 12 goals and a hexagonal pitch or something)

They're all tough, and all could provide equal fight/trouble.
 
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United We Stand! by Matt Le Tissier

It doesn't matter where these two are in the table, this is always a blood and thunder affair.

Even with hardly any Mancunians or Scousers in the side, this is one rivalry that seems to have stood the test of time. It will not be for the faint-hearted, that's for sure.

The Anfield crowd will be right up for this one, they always are. And they should be after such a good performance in Marseille on Tuesday.

That will have given the players a huge lift. Now they have qualified for the knockout stages of the Champions League, you would hope Liverpool can start concentrating on the football.


I know he's got a meeting with the American owners this weekend, but that win in France will have lifted some of the pressure off Rafa Benitez. I don't think for a minute he would have been sacked, but had he lost in Marseille and against United then the heat would really have been on.

He was put in his place as well by George Gillett - and I don't blame the American. Rafa wanted more money to spend, but let's be honest here, has he not had enough already? It was right that the manager was told to get on with matters on the pitch - especially with such big games coming up.

Over-cautious

But it's amazing what a difference one result can make and you would think Liverpool will come flying out of the traps on Sunday, confidence sky-high.

Mind you, they always should. Maybe it comes from the manager, I don't know, but they have been a little over-cautious at home for me at times this season.

As a result Anfield isn't really the fortress is should be. They've drawn four and won three of their seven home league games when, with that support, they should be blowing most teams away.

Manchester United are not most teams of course, but it would be great for all of us watching at home if Liverpool did come out, go for the jugular and really ask questions of Sir Alex Ferguson's side.

That said, they seem to have all the answers right now. It is all looking very, very good for United and of all four teams involved in Grand Slam Sunday, you have to say they look to be in the best shape.

They might not be top going into the game, but they have such strength-in-depth in their squad, such quality, that they can even send out half a first team in a tough place like Rome and still get a point.

The one area where they are much better off than Liverpool, Arsenal and even Chelsea is midfield. In midweek they rested players and still called in Darren Fletcher and Michael Carrick, both internationals.

Paul Scholes is still injured of course and it will be interesting to see if Owen Hargreaves makes this because he and Anderson seem to be the favoured central pairing.

Exceeded expectations

I've got to say the young lad from Brazil has really impressed me - and I do think he has probably come on quicker and settled better than even Sir Alex would've hoped. We all talk about Cesc Fabregas and rightly so, but Anderson is only 19 himself. You expect Fergie to sign good players and great prospects, but this lad had exceeded all my expectations so far.

As has the man who is so vital to Liverpool: Fernando Torres. He's been superb and another that has been a pleasant surprise. I knew he was a willing worker and a big, strong lad, but I didn't expect such finesse on the ball, such good feet and such clinical finishing.

It seems he and Dirk Kuyt, with Steven Gerrard breaking off them, is the way Rafa wants to go and after Marseille it is hard to argue. From a personal point of view, I would prefer to see Peter Crouch in there alongside Torres, but it worked well in midweek and although I am still not convinced it is the long-term solution, Kuyt and Torres will keep the United backline occupied.

Whether they will have as much success as their opposite numbers, Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tevez, I am not sure. I have to admit I wasn't sure they would dovetail so well, but the pair of them seem to have clicked. Of course, they are both very good players, which helps, but they have forged an understanding.

They both like to drop deep, but it has been drummed into them that when one does, the other has to get in the box at the sharp end of things. Maybe Rooney looks a little frustrated that he is not scoring that many right now, but it will come.

Rarely do you see a side create as many chances as United do. They still seem to miss a fair few as well - maybe because they know another will be along in a minute, they relax. We couldn't afford to do that in my days at Southampton, because it might have been another three matches before you even got a sniff of goal!

That in itself speaks volumes for how well United are going. They are solid at the back again, packed with talent in midfield and creating and taking enough chances to win games comfortably. If missing a few is the worst of their worries, then you know they are in good shape for the biggest game of their season so far.

Le Tiss predicts

AWAY WIN - Neither will mind a point from this and a defeat is not really going to be the end of the world, but when these two meet, it's all about pride. I can only see this being the usual Liverpool-United stuff, which means basically a good old scrap! I hope Liverpool take the game to them - although I'm not convinced the manager will let them - but by the same token, we know how United can hurt you on the break. And it is that extra bit of quality in attack that will decide this. It will be close, but I can see United's firepower edging this, 2-1.

Matt's main man

CARLOS TEVEZ - Fabulous footballers should be clever enough to work things out for themselves and that is clearly what Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tevez have done. They work very well together, as similar as they may be, but right now Tevez seems to be the one involved in everything. He is always busy, he is scoring goals and if that Liverpool central defence has one weakness it is when nippy little forwards buzz about them, play on their shoulders and then drop off. Tevez can do the lot.

Source: http://www.skysports.com/experts/expert_story/0,19793,12085_2967906,00.html
 
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I am not sure. I think if Torres is on his day we could end up on the wrong end of the result! Hoping not of course. Im hoping we play really well and take the game to Liverpool (which is what you need to do, Reading did that recently).
 
I am not sure. I think if Torres is on his day we could end up on the wrong end of the result! Hoping not of course. Im hoping we play really well and take the game to Liverpool (which is what you need to do, Reading did that recently).

I predict a boring cagey affair. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Last time out though we were very lucky NOT to lose. If Craig Bellamy and Peter Crouch had found their shooting boots we would have got beat 2-0 or maybe 3-0!! I still think if we have title winning ambitions this is the sort of game we MUST win against one of the BIG 4.
 
Last time out though we were very lucky NOT to lose. If Craig Bellamy and Peter Crouch had found their shooting boots we would have got beat 2-0 or maybe 3-0!! I still think if we have title winning ambitions this is the sort of game we MUST win against one of the BIG 4.

we've already beat chelsea and taken an away point at arsenal...

non of the others have won yet!!
 
Have to agree with taking the game to pool to win, although some fortunate freekick corner can do the same. But of all the games Ive seen this season the times liverpool have looked most vunerable is when teams go for them and show no respect. Hassle and be physical and you can get us off our game. Not sure whether you would try it though, the lesser teams that do usually do it as they know they have little to no chance by sitting back and letting liverpool play. Manu on the other hand are equipped enough to do that and be dangerous on the counter, especially with our pedestrian defense.

Could go either way.
 
Personally it depends on who Rafa fields as a United fan i hope he reverts back to the one man uptop with Voronin and Kuyt as wide men, I think that would definetly benefit us , but if he really goes for it and has Masch,Gerred combo with Torres and another then we might find it a long game, I actually cant see us NOT scoring i think thats what makes me very confident about games against the top clubs lately because i think teams will need more than 1 to win and Liverpool can get more than 1 but on the counter with Ronaldo, Giggs and Anderson who are all very quick from midfield can hurt them... i Predict a 1-1 with us scoring first but Liverpool having more of the chances and getting 1 back
 
Predicting a huge tumble from C Ronaldo in the box with the nearest opposing player about a foot away in the 89th minute of a boring 0-0 affair, the penalty will be saved but the rebound will come to C Ronaldo and hit him in the chest, he will go down like he's been sniped as soon as the ball strikes him and complain that the goalkeeper meant to do it, the referee will then blow for another penalty and this time Tevez will send the goalkeeper the wrong way but end up hitting the post, Ronaldo will do a 3rd and final tumble in the box just after the ball ends up going out wide, grabbing Carraghers arm and pulling it up towards his face then down like a sack of potatoes, red card sends Jamie away into the bath and this time Tevez makes no mistake, 1-0 to United, Ferguson has 3 points and is pleased as punch he gives out incentive bonuses to his players for cheating the ref.
 
Predicting a huge tumble from C Ronaldo in the box with the nearest opposing player about a foot away in the 89th minute of a boring 0-0 affair, the penalty will be saved but the rebound will come to C Ronaldo and hit him in the chest, he will go down like he's been sniped as soon as the ball strikes him and complain that the goalkeeper meant to do it, the referee will then blow for another penalty and this time Tevez will send the goalkeeper the wrong way but end up hitting the post, Ronaldo will do a 3rd and final tumble in the box just after the ball ends up going out wide, grabbing Carraghers arm and pulling it up towards his face then down like a sack of potatoes, red card sends Jamie away into the bath and this time Tevez makes no mistake, 1-0 to United, Ferguson has 3 points and is pleased as punch he gives out incentive bonuses to his players for cheating the ref.

So basically your saying he does a "Arsenal Special" ;)
 
Not long now boys.

I predict either a tight Liverpool win, or a comprehensive United trouncing.....

I'm warning you though, my prediciton skills are shite. So it will prolly be a comprehensive pool victory.

Either way monday morning will either be bliss or agony. Working in London, you can't move an inch without bumping into a gloating United fan.
 
What a load of crap that was, besides a couple of vdsar flaps the utd defense were never troubled. Equally liverpool's defense was hardly ever troubled either besides that late counter with the rooney miss. As usual another crap match between these two. Atleast the ref had a decent game though :D
 
That's why we're champions!

Top of the league, Ferdinand MOTM, we beat the Scousers AGAIN at "Fortress Anfield". We aren't Marseille!

Happy days :)
 
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