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Plan M said:
Just a slip-up. We'll bounce back - it's the African Cup of Nations soon :)
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Sorry to disapoint you, but Arsenal is not a one man team like Man Utd... If you think the loss of Adebayor, Touré and Eboué for a month will make a difference you're so wrong...

It will make as much difference as it made yesterday... without Fabregas, Van Persie, Flamini and Hleb, Arsenal won...

Without Ronaldo, Man Utd are an average midtable side, as we all had the chance to witness yesterday.
 
Schumacher said:
Sorry to disapoint you, but Arsenal is not a one man team like Man Utd... If you think the loss of Adebayor, Touré and Eboué for a month will make a difference you're so wrong...

It will make as much difference as it made yesterday... without Fabregas, Van Persie, Flamini and Hleb, Arsenal won...

Without Ronaldo, Man Utd are an average midtable side, as we all had the chance to witness yesterday.
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I don't know if I'd agree with you to be honest, its obvious United have quality in every position and in depth, its a little crazy to call them a one man team, (which is what we were called for a long time with henry which i also thought was unfair), maybe they lost a little speed and dynamic and certainly missed his presence but a one man team? No way man, they had an off day. In terms of the Arsenal performance you could see that the ship wasn't quite floating on the water the same with that midfield missing, sure they done a great job and got their just rewards in the end but they were shaky at times on the ball, the passing wasn't as fluid and quick on a consistent basis but as I said they done great.
 
Funny how Sir Alex let it out that we have been bidding for Anelka lots of times and the frenchman was the one who puts us down last night.It was a tough game nonetheless.We tried to come back in the second half but Bolton defended deeply but brilliantly.I dont know how Tevez missed that glorious chance to equalised.Anderson sparked us and improved the pace in the middle but it wasnt to be...I hope the lads can pick themselves up from this defeat and go on a long spell of victories next,just like we did after we lost at Citeh...No worries,the finishing line is not in sight yet.
 
Schumacher said:
Sorry to disapoint you, but Arsenal is not a one man team like Man Utd... If you think the loss of Adebayor, Touré and Eboué for a month will make a difference you're so wrong...

It will make as much difference as it made yesterday... without Fabregas, Van Persie, Flamini and Hleb, Arsenal won...

Without Ronaldo, Man Utd are an average midtable side, as we all had the chance to witness yesterday.
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What absolute twaddle. Shall I serve a bitter lemon with your lemonade, sir?
 
Schumacher said:
Sorry to disappoint you, but Arsenal is not a one man team like Man Utd... If you think the loss of Adebayor, Touré and Eboué for a month will make a difference you're so wrong...

It will make as much difference as it made yesterday... without Fabregas, Van Persie, Flamini and Hleb, Arsenal won...

Without Ronaldo, Man Utd are an average mid tableside, as we all had the chance to witness yesterday.
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my friend I appreciate the kind support but C.Ronaldo is not the heart of United he just part of a vessel.
 
One player doesn't win the Premiership title - a team does. It's such a lazy and uneducated claim to make about a football team. Some people always bring up "Gerrard being Liverpool's only hope" and "Henry being Arsenal's" etc. It's boring.
 
Clockender said:
Yeah Clichy has been immense this season, wouldn't swap him for no one.
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yeah he did a great job on ronaldo at the emirates... :) just kidding clichy and evra are two great talents, but of course i would rather have evra, well to be honest i think evra is better in the air and a tad bitbetter at going forward, but there both QUALITY. But to be fair as well evra was shit vs bolton IMO.. but that was a rare day for him, i think davis got in his head, that twat
 
Sporting visits OT tonite and I think we would mix it up with our starlets and the regulars.Miguel Veloso will be a watched man tonite in more ways than one as we have revealed that he is in our list of wanted players.The 21 year old is a solid player,can play as CB,LB and DM and takes wicked freekicks with his left peg.I am not too sure about his 10 mill tag though.He will certainly provide cover in these positions if we agree to purchase him in the next window.I'd say its 2 nil to us tonite as we gather pace top our group in the CL.
 
I like the sounds of Veloso, while at first look it seems like we don't need any more CMF cover, if he's as versatile as you say could be great in later months of the campaign. An injury to Evra would force O'Shea back there, leaving only Fletcher as cover in the middle (assuming Scholes remains injured - any update on him lately?).

As far as Arsenal having more depth...I really don't know about that. Fine we lost against Bolton but a. they're a better team than wigan and b. you guys only scraped by in the last 10 minutes. That's 13 goals in the last 10 minutes this season, obviously if you can continue that you'll win the league, but at some point the 'luck' will run out and you'll hit hte post with that last try, rather than gallas getting another one :)

Whereas hopefully tevez will learn that 3 yard out misses are pretty sh*t for a £20m player...

Biggest concern is Saha. He was shocking. Absolutely awful, in a game when he was given a chance to shine. He clearly has no confidence, and in the end that's down to Fergie's man management, which in his case has been poor. Clearly Fergie's got a plan...I hope we don't hear about it til it's done and dusted, lest the Chavs come a knockin :)
 
beachryan said:
As far as Arsenal having more depth...I really don't know about that. Fine we lost against Bolton but a. they're a better team than wigan and b. you guys only scraped by in the last 10 minutes. That's 13 goals in the last 10 minutes this season, obviously if you can continue that you'll win the league, but at some point the 'luck' will run out and you'll hit hte post with that last try, rather than gallas getting another one :)
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Not sure how you compare teams, but Bolton better mmm.. maybe but we beat them(Bolton) much easier then again Portsmouth was even an easier match
I`m not too worry about scoring in the last 10 min. since it`s before 90 that matters
 
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Very true re: 90 mins, you don't have to tell united fans about that! However, it's not a good strategy for a whole season...

As for beating Bolton yes, but you faced them at a very different time. While United were poor even the mighty Arsenal would have been under some pressure if they'd been playing Saturday. Bolton were first to every ball and if they weren't just took the player before the ball. I watched your game and they were sh*t passionless and disorganised.

anyway, the only true judge of how United and Arsenal would do against each other is just that, and it was 2-2 with an injury time goal from the central defender. So like I said, fair play while it works...
 
Saturday was one of those games, thought we deserved a point tho....

So we've lost two games and we're still up there..

Hopefully we can wrap up our CL group tonite...

Keep an eye on Veloso tonight, he's destined for OT very soon...

Theres a rumour that SAF is looking to offload Carrick to Spurs, getting Barbatov in return and Veloso taking his place...
 
Arsenal are a better football team than Man United at the moment. Simple as that. Take your specs off for a moment United supporters.
 
Vannizzlefashizzal said:
Theres a rumour that SAF is looking to offload Carrick to Spurs, getting Barbatov in return and Veloso taking his place...
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NOOOO...I cannot see that happening and hopes it stays as a rumour.It is official that Veloso is under our radars but according to Carlos Quieroz,signing the portugese is not a priority...A striker is perhaps the top priority bearing in mind how shocking Saha was against Bolton.
 
phrase said:
NOOOO...I cannot see that happening and hopes it stays as a rumour.It is official that Veloso is under our radars but according to Carlos Quieroz,signing the portugese is not a priority...A striker is perhaps the top priority bearing in mind how shocking Saha was against Bolton.
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people seem to be split on Carrick....

last year I thought him and scholes we're excellent...

he hasnt really had a consistent run out this season...

but when he has come in he's looked poor, especially saturday, I thought a carrick/hargreaves MF would be decent, maybe we've gotta give it time...

weakening the MF seems daft anyway, 'specially when the player rumoured to come in is cup-tied in the CL...

so maybe its for the summer, apparently Ramos is keen on bringing carrick back...
 
Carrick is a fine footballer - but I agree with Vann, he hasn't been in the best form so far this season.

As for my earlier post about Arsenal being better than United at the moment: I am fed up with reading posts like "But we played Bolton who are better than Wigan" etc. What absolute nonsense - you have to beat the eleven players that are up against you whoever they may be. Arsenal did that at the weekend - United didn't. :)
 
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