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Manchester United Thread

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So (and I know I'm playing fantasy football here lol) can he play in a three man midfielder alongside someone like Hargreaves, and still leave room for another attacking midfielder like David Silva, without clashing with him?
From your description, I'm picturing a new Scholes.
 
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We're not gonna get Silva AND Gourcuff (most likely we won't get either of them) so it wouldn't really matter if they clashed Rune :P
 
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matherto said:
We're not gonna get Silva AND Gourcuff (most likely we won't get either of them) so it wouldn't really matter if they clashed Rune :P
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To be honest, I'm thinking we get Gourcuff to pair him with a defensive midfielder and then let Anderson roam freely in front of both.

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In a 4-3-3 of course. With Rooney, Nani and Valenica up front.
 
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Gourcuff's a wonderful player to watch, the touch, creative passing and audacious flicks. Remind you off someone? He's also got a habit of missing chunks of the match and then having a moment of magic with a pass or something.

I think the AC Milan stink was interesting and something he couldn't at the time handle but has turned it on at a club where the expectations are lower, similar to Berbatov I think alot of our fans would get frustrated with him if he didn't turn it on from the off.

On another note apparently Ozil's contract runs out next summer, So I'd probably wager that Silva would go for 30M compared to Ozil who you could probably get for half of that.
 
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For me, he doesn't remind me of Kaka. Maybe it's the lack of pace. Not that Gourcuff is slow. In fact when at full speed, he does slightly surprise you. But Kaka was incredibly fast and could run at defenders and cause havoc just doing that alone, like Zidane, this isn't one of Yoann's forte.

Zizou on the other hand, I'll gladly say, he definitely reminds me of and for all the 100's of young talented French midfielders that come through every year and are labeled the 'New Zidane', for me personally, he's the closest thing I've seen to the bald magician. He may not have the Algerian roots (in fact he doesn't lol) but it's not just his ability either such as vision, passing, technique that he shares with the great one but his 'style' of play, height, physique, tendencies.

Very much reminds me of Zidane. Kaka, I'm not so sure. Someone who is something between Kaka and Zidane though is Javier Pastore who United were actually after before he opted for Palermo and what a great choice that's turned out to be.

Something in between Kaka and Zidane, wow that sounds f'n great eh! :SHOCK: :P It's true too. Can't say it's not. He's got that extra pace Gourcuff doesn't, but that magic touch and elegance and flair, like Zizou, he would cost a f'n FORTUNE though!

RuneEdge said:
So (and I know I'm playing fantasy football here lol) can he play in a three man midfielder alongside someone like Hargreaves, and still leave room for another attacking midfielder like David Silva, without clashing with him?
From your description, I'm picturing a new Scholes.
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A much taller Scholes then? Hmm... yeah maybe. I don't know... I suppose he could do that though that would mean he has quite a lot of defensive responsibilities too right? I mean if it's a 3-man midfield and one of them is gonna be a light-weight attacking midfielder like Silva, that's still far too much defensive work for one man alone in Fletcher or Hargreaves or Carrick, so he would have to help out a lot. I guess it could be pulled off but I wouldn't think it's the ideal tactical set up and doubt rednose would consider it.

matherto said:
We're not gonna get Silva AND Gourcuff (most likely we won't get either of them) so it wouldn't really matter if they clashed Rune :P
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Lol true. If you get one of them, you should be a happy man.

RuneEdge said:
To be honest, I'm thinking we get Gourcuff to pair him with a defensive midfielder and then let Anderson roam freely in front of both.

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In a 4-3-3 of course. With Rooney, Nani and Valenica up front.
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Since Valencia does track back and help out with defense too unlike Nani, though I'm not so much for this idea, I can see it sorta working. Not a bad idea. And what a season the Ecuadorian had! I'd say he fulfilled every expectation I had of him. Knew he'd be a great signing and I think so far at least, not many can disagree. Great player! One of United's best.

Though honestly, why let Anderson roam freely? It's true that he used to do that with great efficiency at Porto and can still go on to become a great player despite some people doubting him now, but right now him and Yoann look like they're in different classes. I'd let Gourcuff run freely. Give him a free-role, make him your go to guy and watch magic happen after he settles down and has the fans' / manager's confidence. And make sure you're well protected defensively by playing Fletcher and Carrick or Fletcher and Hargreaves behind him in midfield and have Anderson as sub. That's what I'd probably do.

YoungGun_UK said:
On another note apparently Ozil's contract runs out next summer, So I'd probably wager that Silva would go for 30M compared to Ozil who you could probably get for half of that.
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True. Is it a for sure thing that he won't renew with Werder, then? I suppose his performances at the World cup might have a lot to do with that. Anyhow, I'd put him in same category as David Silva as those two definitely have some similarities in my opinion.
 
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Yeah, a lot of people here in France were comparing Yoann to Zidane. It's quiet down now though, mostly because Bordeaux had a bad season and him not shining at international level. Still, he was one of France's best player last season. A lot of people will be relying on him and Ribery at the World Cup.

I'd love to see him at United, but I'm not sure SAF's interested. Plus, Gourcuff will definitely want first team football so he'll probably think twice before leaving Bordeaux.
 
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PLF said:
Since Valencia does track back and help out with defense too unlike Nani, though I'm not so much for this idea, I can see it sorta working. Not a bad idea. And what a season the Ecuadorian had! I'd say he fulfilled every expectation I had of him. Knew he'd be a great signing and I think so far at least, not many can disagree. Great player! One of United's best.
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Nani was much, much better at tracking back in the second half of the season mate, he really seems to have worked on this side of his game recently. Not sure how many United games you saw but this is something that definitely stood out for me.

You're spot on about Tony V though.
 
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To be fair he was much, much better at everything in the second half of the season but yeah Nani's defensive work is very good.

I think were likely to have our signings wrapped up before the World Cup begins so if that means no one then I'd assume we won't add.
 
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One interesting fact is that in Manchester United your players seem to have an evolution from month to month. Like, Nani wasn't that good at defending or at tracking back, but suddenly he can do it quite well. Fletcher is another example, he was an average player but suddenly he blossomed. These things really mark Ferguson's work in MU.
I haven't really seen such work and such progress being made in any other team. Most of the time if a player is bad in something they tend to stay the same, but in MU these errors seem to be fixed and the results are there to show.
Quite interesting of Ferguson. Indeed the best manager the world has ever seen at least in this department.
 
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Yeah and speaking of players evolving, what about Wayne Rooney becoming the new Alan Shearer and a heading GOD! :D :LOL:

That was the best surprise I've seen in a player's development in awhile.

Before, the ball used to hit him on the head lool. Now he looks like he's destined to head it powerfully towards the corner and into the net! :SHOCK: Love it!! :WORSHIP:

@Ogami, yeah, most of France's hopes will be on the shoulders of two players' magic. Ribery and Gourcuff. If these two don't play well, France may be an organized team but will have trouble making chances and if these two do play well, then lord have mercy on the others lool because it's the talent and genius of these two combined with work-ethic, stamina and teamwork of players like Evra, Toulalan, Diarra, etc.

Jumbo_ said:
Nani was much, much better at tracking back in the second half of the season mate, he really seems to have worked on this side of his game recently. Not sure how many United games you saw but this is something that definitely stood out for me.

You're spot on about Tony V though.
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Nani is much improved in every way. You're right. That includes tracking back and defensive work. But Tony V still > Nani
 
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Hrm, Fergie now sounds like we're only after one player, and clearly if he's saying that it means that we've not actually mangaed to tie them down.

I'm a bit torn to be honest. I of course, love seeing us do well in the league and cups, but at the same time kind of understand that we're still, in the end, a company, and as such we just can't compete with Chelsea and City when it comes to silly money (and Real of course). It's kind of sad, what should now happen is that no teams sign anyone until after it looks like the billionaire funded/government funded teams have finished their business, at which point almost a second tier market will form with 'realistic' prices.

I mean, James Milner is not worth anyhting over £15/£20m. But City are interested, so now he costs £35m. But if City don't sign him, they're the only team willing ot pay that, so then his price goes back down again. In theory anyway.

Something will eventually give. Or 18 teams in the league will just feed off the scraps of the big spending two.

I mean, we did come 2nd, and were one dodgy yellow away from making it to the CL semi against a team we should beat. And that was without any big spending. So maybe Gill/Fergie are right from a business point of view!
 
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Were a football club not a company, We don't have the funds its simple and the day SAF decides he can't compete for trophies he'd leave.

I think were going to get a versatile forward, I'd prefer a CM but with Scholes here another year we'll probably delay it for another year.
 
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Plus there's some kind of reverse curse where people who leave Madrid tend to become successful. :P

Not a big fan a VDV though. Then again, I can't think of anyone who's anywhere near as good as Scholesy in his prime (except maybe for the two magicians at Barca).
 
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Van der Vaart's a good player but I'd be extremely surprised if SAF went for him, we'll go for "Yoof" I reckon.
 
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I finally get to see the last game of our Reserve team against Aston Villa.

Diouf and Macheda performed well in that game.Lots of interchange of play between them plus Macheda actually made all 3 goals in that game,laying 2 for Diouf and scored himself that penalty.I really hope both of them could step up to the plate next season in the first team.

Rodrigo Possebon played the whole game and I was fairly impressed with his positioning,composure and his passes.He could be used alongside Gibson for our cup games.

The only one who stood out in defence was little Rafael.Was at his usual rigorous swashbuckling style.

Ritchie De Laet was abysmal for the first 2 goals scored by Villa.

Gill Jr couldnt cut it with his lack of pace.

Ben Foster could be the next England number 1? I highly doubt so...his positioning for the last 2 goals was terrible...and this was just a reserve game! I think we made good business by offloading him off to Brum.
 
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@ Phrase - I watched that match too, was really impressed with Diouf's movement and, more surprisingly, Macheda's ability to find them. Hopefully both will be a bit more involved in the first team next season.

With our current signing policy, looks likely!
 
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Rooney, Berbatov, Owen + 2 of Macheda/Welbeck/Hernandez/Diouf

Send the other 2 on loan probably.
 
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It will be fine if its Macheda and Hernandez.
We have seen Macheda grow and Hernandez has international experience under his belt, especially after the world cup is over.
 
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Yeah i'm pretty sure Welbeck will go back to Preston while Macheda and little pea will stay here. Not sure about Diouf, he's 22 so will have to be registered and if there's an option to loan him out then maybe we'll take that and let someone else have that spot. Saying that, nearly everytime we've loaned out a foreign player it hasn't worked out so maybe not.
 
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How dare people question The One? Repenting should start immediately, though I fear it may already be too late.

Sounds like the Berb is sticking around next season, so at least that's something.
 
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YoungGun_UK said:
http://menmedia.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/64/64338_fergie_verons_staying_put.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3120081.stm

I wouldn't be so sure just yet.
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That's just classic Fergie, isnt it? "I wouldnt sell them a virus" and then we go and sell them the World Player of the Year.
And he insists that we still have the Cristiano money to spend when it's blatantly obvious that we have f*ck all in our transfer budget.
And then there's all the little things like when Rooney was supposed to be injured and completely ruled out, only for him to start against Bayern in the second leg.

I respect the man for what he does and what he's achieved but I dont believe anything he says to the press.
 
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