Manchester United Thread

Milanista said:
Zico said:
Milanista said:
I think Fergy will need to play more defensively if he will face Milan or Bayern. Italian teams are known for their tough defences and good counter attacks.
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Yeah they've got excellent defenses: Inter 1 Arsenal 5: Lazio 0 Chelsea 4

Pretty good aint they? :mrgreen: ;)

ROONEY!
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Pff stop choosing bad teams .... look at Roma , Juve, and Milan. Those are the real Italian fire powers.... inter have been shit in Europe for the last 10 years apart from last season. Remember Helsinborg???? Alaves???? Lazio have lost their confidence ever since they won in 2000 the league because they thought they could win all.
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yea what i said, lazio and internazionale dont represent serie a very well in europe

-azn
 
I dont think we've gotta be afraid of anyone in Europe when you see the sort of teams we've beat over the last few years, why would we??

Anyway I already said that not everyone can win it and aslong as we're up there im happy, you cant argue with our european record, the amount of games we've won and goals we scored is 2nd to only Madrid, yeah maybe we could/should've won it more but when you look at the team who have for the most part dominated then its no suprise that they've won it so much.

Unfourtunatley for United supporters the all italian CL final last season probley got to Fergie, we play attacking football naturally and thats where we've come unstuck over the years, now he's got the dogs of war mentality and its effecting our game, our defense is pretty solid and the old addage is that defense wins championships so we'll see how far he takes before he realises he's turned us in to feckin liverpool.
 
yet more takeover specualtion.

He’s Russian, loaded and want’s to own United.


Ralif Safin, one of the founders of Lukoil, Russia's largest oil company,
has emerged as the mystery Russian stalking Manchester United football club.
His emergence follows months of speculation about a move for United from an
unnamed Russian, following Roman Abramovich's surprise £59m takeover of
Chelsea in the summer. Mr Safin's initial contact with London bankers came
several months ago when he told them he wanted to wait until after Russia's
presidential elections before making a move.


One banker said: "Safin has definitely been looking at it but ostentatious
shows of wealth are deeply unpopular in Russia at the moment. It is likely
that he will hold off for a while."


Takeover speculation has helped Manchester United's shares more than double this year, valuing the company at almost £700m. Mr Glazer, who first invested in the club a year ago, is now its second-biggest shareholder, behind the Irish horseracing tycoons John Magnier and JP McManus. They increased their holding earlier this month to 24.2pc.


Henk Potts, of Barclays stockbrokers, said:

"Given how far Manchester United shares have moved this year and considering that the big players have strengthened their positions, Mr Safin would have to pay an absolute fortune to take over the club."


Still cant see this happeing to us tbh, and I dont know if i'd want it too, we've never had or needed a sugar daddy, the supporters generate the revenue and IMO thats how it should be done......
 
Yeah, I agree Vann, we have built our team on solid foundations, and topped up with a few big signings like Ruud and Rio. Proper bo` club, is United!
 
ninjabreakz said:
Yeah, I agree Vann, we have built our team on solid foundations, and topped up with a few big signings like Ruud and Rio. Proper bo` club, is United!
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yeah if you think how much we would've spent on Scholes, the Nevilles, Beckham, Butt, Giggs, Sheasy and Wes Brown your talking alot of money. Plus eveyone of them (Beckham included) is United thru and thru and that IMO, you cant buy.
 
I knew United had been in talks with PSV about a player, I was hoping it was Kezman but apparently not:

UNITED LEAD ROBBEN RACE
Tuesday 30th December 2003


By Gerrit van Leeuwen
Manchester United are believed to be stepping up their interest in PSV Eindhoven teenager Arjen Robben.
Sources in Holland sugget that United are leading the chase for the highly-rated 19-year-old and have already held initial discussions about a move.

PSV have previously confirmed they have received enquiries from an unnamed club and it is believed that United were the mystery outfit in question.

Dutch daily De Telegraaf suggests that Robben could travel to England this weekend for further talks and to take in United's FA Cup clash with Aston Villa.

The Dutch Young Player of the Year has attracted the interest of a host of top clubs and United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is keen to secure a deal for the skilful winger.

Reports suggest that United are close to capturing Robben on a five-year deal with the option to loan him back to PSV for one season.

PSV are resigned to losing Robben and they will not be able to resist a big-money offer from United.

Any move looks unlikely during the January transfer window as Robben is ineligible for Europe having played in the UEFA Champions League this season for PSV, but United could be looking to secure an agreement with the player now to ward off interest from rival clubs.

I reckon this is a cert, we've done good business with PSV recently and have a good relationship.

Dont know much about this player tbh, anyone got any info.
 
Info?

He is already the best left winger of the Netherlands at the age of 19. A lot of goals, a lot of assists. He is a class winger, someone who can get past quite a few defenders in a dribble. Not only on national level but also in the Champions League.

In short: LEAVE HIM ALONE, SCUM ;) ;)
 
Ferraritim said:
Info?

He is already the best left winger of the Netherlands at the age of 19. A lot of goals, a lot of assists. He is a class winger, someone who can get past quite a few defenders in a dribble. Not only on national level but also in the Champions League.

In short: LEAVE HIM ALONE, SCUM ;) ;)
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Hhmm sounds promising, well like the earlier post said its looks like we're arranging something with PSV so they keep him for the remainder of this season and we get him next.
 
ninjabreakz said:
Vann name your United player of the season so far.
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hhhmm thats a tough one, gotta say Keano mate.

the influence he's had on the team and the way he's played is 2nd to none, I'd hate to think we're we'd be this season with him.

honourable mentions for Howard, P.Neville and Scholesy.

My overall player from the year 2003 is Ruud.

You just cant fault the bloke, when it came to our title run in, with the pressure on he scored in everygame:

44 goals, Top scorer in The Prem, Top scorer in The CL and a Championship medal in his 2nd season, theres no debating.

Honourable mentions for:

P.Neville, Sheasy & Scholesy
 
Yeah, its out of P. Neville and Keano for me. Keano is the drving force, Phil has looked SOLID and is having the season of his life. Every time he is in the midfield, I know he is going to perform.
Scholes is always such a performer, he is the Zidane of the Premiership IMO.
Yes, Ruud has been awsome, holds the ball up like no-other, scores tons of goals and isn`t arrogant with it.
Howard is showing his talents (Someone said he is the most agile player in the Premiership, Big Ron I think.) I can`t wait for Kleberson and Ronaldo to get into full-flow - them 2 have so much ability it`s scary. Plus we still have players to come in! I really hope Kezman comes, he is da bomb!
 
ninjabreakz said:
Yeah, its out of P. Neville and Keano for me. Keano is the drving force, Phil has looked SOLID and is having the season of his life. Every time he is in the midfield, I know he is going to perform.
Scholes is always such a performer, he is the Zidane of the Premiership IMO.
Yes, Ruud has been awsome, holds the ball up like no-other, scores tons of goals and isn`t arrogant with it.
Howard is showing his talents (Someone said he is the most agile player in the Premiership, Big Ron I think.) I can`t wait for Kleberson and Ronaldo to get into full-flow - them 2 have so much ability it`s scary. Plus we still have players to come in! I really hope Kezman comes, he is da bomb!
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Yeah he's very much our little ZiZou, it was said after Cantona left that Scholesy was the player most like him, he's a brilliant player.

I can see how Howard is the most agile, he comes from a background of basketball and NFL, similar to Smeichal (sp) being a great handball player, it gave them all the attributes to be a top class keeper.

The only thing about Howard though, and this is shown by the opta stats, that he's not really been tested yet, our defense has been so solid he's hardly had to make a save so im gonna wait and see, he looks the bizz but how he'll hold up against Europes best is another question.

I reckon Ronaldo is gonna take another season or two, he had his best 90mins against Everton and seemed to be trying to balance his game more instead of all the tricks, and it worked, he created two goals and twisted the scousers up so bad they we're lining up to chop him down.

Kleberson impressed me aswell, he's really eager for the ball, and makes room for himself, his passing and vision are top draw and again his game is simple, compared to say Veron who was a wonderful player but always looking for the spectacular, Kleberson likes the short simple passes, his touch is decent, can head the ball and not a bad tackler either, well not scared of a tackle anyway (veron).

Eric Djemba and Bellion havent figured as much, Bellion already looks alot better after being with us a few months so fingers crossed he carry's on in the same way. Eric cant complain at being kept out by Neville/Keane/Scholes, he's a decent player, keeps it simple, his greatest attribute though seems to be his strength but again he'll improve with us.

Its good watching Fergie build another team, it'd have been easy for him to ride out on the back of his "fledglings" IMO, they had all won/done everything, he'd ended the scouse stranglehold on english football, but he wants to keep it going, yeah its left us weaker for the time being but with the current team (especially the back four) being so young and knowing Fergie is gonna buy this winter and summer its exciting, and when you think all this is happening whilst we are challenging for the top honours it makes it a good time to be a United supporter.
 
phrase said:
Robben would be an excellent understudy to Giggs,who's getting older by the day but he can always move up as a forward anyway.
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yea.. but like you said vann... what a pickup kezman would be, unless we can hit two birds with one stone - if you know what i mean - and scoop up both him AND robben... well lets not get too full of ourselves yet... hopefully ralif safin has the interest to buy us first, then maybe we'll have our safin-era... though this would contradict EVERYTHING ive said in the "Money Ruining Football?" thread that milan started... *sigh* the troubles of football :roll:

-azn
 
Milanista said:
But dont united start with Scholes instead of a forward usually? Kezman would be on bench wouldnt he?
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well... i guess we can change formations ... hopefully:

-----------------HOWARD------------------
--NEVILLE--WES--SHEASY--SILVESTRE
------------------KEANO(KLEBER)--------
-RONALDO--------------------GIGGS(ROBBEN)
-------------------SCHOLES------------------
-------------KEZMAN--------RVN------------

that has always been a dream of mine, that way, ginger will be a OMF, not limbo between striker and half back

-azn :D change it fergie!
 
Ferraritim said:
Remember that beautiful goal Kezman made against you in the 2000 CL (PSV - Man U 3-1)? :D
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haha, imagine him doing that for us, against PSV, whenever PSV gets it as far as we do ;) cmon its a joke ferrar ;)

-azn
 
Kezman would be a superb no.9 for us..he is such a quicksilver striker already proven in europe.He would definitely plays off RVN.I dont know much about Robben though...anyone can describe the way he plays?
 
robben is one the few next big dutch names along with the likes of sneijder,van dervaart,bommel.he's got devastating pace,left footed winger.scores loads of goals as well.manure have been said to offer 5mill for him which is a complete joke as he is valued at more than 10mill.all in all,it's one of those bullshit rumour that just wont go away.kezman is dead set on barca so all you'll have is viduka and southgate(lol!)....
 
Misfit said:
robben is one the few next big dutch names along with the likes of sneijder,van dervaart,bommel.he's got devastating pace,left footed winger.scores loads of goals as well.manure have been said to offer 5mill for him which is a complete joke as he is valued at more than 10mill.all in all,it's one of those bullshit rumour that just wont go away.kezman is dead set on barca so all you'll have is viduka and southgate(lol!)....
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OH SHITE, youre pullin me leg, that is one of the MOST pathetic shite ive heard, (well i ve heard worst) VIDUKA TO UNITED!? first of all, if we re EVER going to purchase a striker or some kind of attacker, why not focus on kezman? and anyway, milan brought this up but whatever, WHAT ABOUT OLE AND DIEGO?! ole has yet to prove himself useful becuase of injuries, and diego is streaky, a double dutch up front would be amazing, but that means that we ll have a four man rotation up top, OR that'll mean that one of diego and ole gets transfered, and the other is going to sit on the bench again... noooooooooooot good news... robben would be a perfect pickup, replacing the ww on the left because of his age. and southgate? well gareth can replace rio - i guess

-azn
 
footieBalla said:
OH SHITE, youre pullin me leg, that is one of the MOST pathetic shite ive heard, (well i ve heard worst) VIDUKA TO UNITED!? first of all, if we re EVER going to purchase a striker or some kind of attacker, why not focus on kezman? and anyway, milan brought this up but whatever, WHAT ABOUT OLE AND DIEGO?! ole has yet to prove himself useful becuase of injuries, and diego is streaky, a double dutch up front would be amazing, but that means that we ll have a four man rotation up top, OR that'll mean that one of diego and ole gets transfered, and the other is going to sit on the bench again... noooooooooooot good news... robben would be a perfect pickup, replacing the ww on the left because of his age. and southgate? well gareth can replace rio - i guess

-azn
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What are you on about? Solskjaer hasnt proved himself useful? Everyone gets injuries, he's been one of the most consistent strikers in the prem since he's been at United. Just look at his goals to game ratio before he got shoved on the right wing. Oh and Viduka is more likely than Kezman. Since when have we been officially linked with him?
 
Oh, and I think a defender is priority in January what with Rio's possible ban and everything. We're still short on numbers back there, even though almost everyone of our defenders can play in multiple positions. If anything happens to Ruud, I'd just put Solskjaer up front and put one of Ronaldo, Fletcher or Bellion on the right. We're spoilt for choice on the right.
 
hutch said:
What are you on about? Solskjaer hasnt proved himself useful? Everyone gets injuries, he's been one of the most consistent strikers in the prem since he's been at United. Just look at his goals to game ratio before he got shoved on the right wing. Oh and Viduka is more likely than Kezman. Since when have we been officially linked with him?
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i really meant this season, and i meant to say he really hasnt HAD THE CHANCE to prove hisself, my bad...

yea the back is quite shaky, thats why we have a bid on southgate, as for kezman, it would be pretty swell to have him on the squad

-azn
 
I wonder if Fergie would ever put Ronaldo up front as a free role striker,alongside RVN.Ole can then move back to the right midfield berth.That would be devastating innit?....Henry,eat your heart out.
 
phrase said:
I wonder if Fergie would ever put Ronaldo up front as a free role striker,alongside RVN.Ole can then move back to the right midfield berth.That would be devastating innit?....Henry,eat your heart out.
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woah what? i thought ole was a striker through and through. and he didnt quite like being a half back, and therefore, having ronaldo would actually help ole ... ah well

-azn
 
Robben to strike deal at United
PSV Eindhoven's president Harry van Raay last night admitted that star striker Arjen Robben could leave for Manchester United. Robben, 19, will travel to Old Trafford for talks with United boss Sir Alex Ferguson, as revealed in yesterday's Mirror Sport. And when asked if Robben would leave in the January transfer window or in the summer, van Raay said: "The chance is 50 per cent." Dutch international Robben has scored 16 goals in 48 league appearances for PSV and is expected to be included in Dick Advocaat's Holland squad for the Euro 2004 finals in June.
Alan Nixon, Daily Mirror
 
Happy New Year all!!

Well after what seemed like an endless two weeks of debauchery (sp) im sat in work trying to get me bearings. There was a bit of void yesterday with there being no footy but the FA cups starting and although im not as keen on the comp as I used to be I always feel like this is when the season gets going.

I see a few people have latched on to my post regarding Robben (including the national press) This deal is looking more and more likely and it'll be for alot less than the Ronaldo deal, thats a summer signing but still its yet another youngster, which seems to be the way the majority of Fergies future signings are going, he's keen on Komp from Andelecht I would've preferred Van Buyten myself but what do I know, plus the young fella we signed from Wimbledon who comes highly rated. Fergie's rebuliding to ensure that although maybe past our peak we aint moving from the top just yet.
 
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