Manchester United Thread

Frustrating game...I've always said that,Man U will struggle playing against a team with 5 man across midfield.Credit to Everton,they did defend well today,Its like United went to war without bringing any weapons,frustrating at times when we could have played the direct ball but choose to pass and slow down instead.Call it continental football,call it total football if you like,its not doin us any good,at least not in the EPL.Its been said that its our 2nd worst start in the premiership ever,whats the worst like?
 
Fergie should GO at the end of the season!

We need a different approach 2 our team!

Its the same CRAP every fucking year lately and the missing players thing is crap we need creative players e.g Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Rooney and more because our defence and attack is fine now when Heinze and Rio are back but our midfield is shite as is our backup!

You guys might not agree with me but thats my opinion we need a change!

Dont you guys wonder y they have not give a shit load of money 2 him?

They dont trust him!

The Rooney thing is different as it a young exciting talent but so is Van Der Vaart and Sneijder which you could get both for the same amount!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!

We need a new right back as well! Phillip Lahm comes to mind get rid of Kleberson, Bellion!
 
Fergie should GO at the end of the season!
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You sure you are a Man Utd supporter? I would never give up Fergie. He has won us so many different trophies, you would kick him out after a slow start to the long season ahead? Who could replace him? You need your head testing, he hasn`t exactly had the starting 11 he would like yet.

Its the same CRAP every fucking year lately and the missing players thing is crap we need creative players e.g Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Rooney and more because our defence and attack is fine now when Heinze and Rio are back but our midfield is shite as is our backup!
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"Every fucking year lately"!!!??? That is bad English. We need creative players? So Scholes, Giggs and Ronaldo are not creative? LMAO.

Dont you guys wonder y they have not give a shit load of money 2 him?
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If you didnt know, Man Utd are a PLC which means they are run like a strict business - they wont just "panic-buy" Rooney and offer him/Everton silly money. We are not Chelsea, with one guy running the show, we have a board of people who make decisions about big buys like Rooney, and David Gill gives the nod.
 
You people make me larf so if we finish forth you guys will be happy with that as due to Fergie winning countless trophies he deserves to stay?

WHATEVER!

Are you a true Man u fan?

Remember the club comes first and no1 is bigger than the club so if we dont win the prem he should go regardless of injuries and other crap its just excuses at the end of the day he has bought CRAP end of story!

Why not play P.Neville now Keanes injured he has never let us down!

Your full of crap mate this squad is CRAP and its his fault!

AND YES I AM A TRUE FAN NOT A GLORY HUNTER BEFORE COME OUT WITH THAT CRAP!
 
Dead Man said:
You people make me larf so if we finish forth you guys will be happy with that as due to Fergie winning countless trophies he deserves to stay?

WHATEVER!

Are you a true Man u fan?

Remember the club comes first and no1 is bigger than the club so if we dont win the prem he should go regardless of injuries and other crap its just excuses at the end of the day he has bought CRAP end of story!

Why not play P.Neville now Keanes injured he has never let us
Your full of crap mate this squad is CRAP and its his fault!

AND YES I AM A TRUE FAN NOT A GLORY HUNTER BEFORE COME OUT WITH THAT CRAP!
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I didnt say you was a glory hunter - but you cant make such a quick decision in sacking the Premiership`s most successful manager because he has only picked up 5 points in his first 4 matches???? That is ludicrous. Bobby Robson got sacked today, after 6 years in charge of Newcastle, where they didnt win anything, so Fergie aint gonna get the chop yet, mate! If we finish mid-table at the end of the season, with no Champions League place, and no trophies, then lets think about looking for a new coach. For now stop speaking rubbish.
 
Yea and i said at the END of the season!

Look at Arsenals squad no the greatest right about 15 players but people who do come can do a job and it does not disrupt the flow of the team.

Arsenal are in a different league i know so i sholdnt compare but what Fergie has done 2 this team is pathetic remember when we over took Arsenal how the players stepped in and the team played so well but look at us now with crap like Bellion, Djemba Djemba and kleberson the team just stutters along.

I respect Fergie but i am losing my patience with the players hes buying.

Still no great cover for Giggs, Scholes Keane, Rio, Neville!

Why???????????

If you can answer that i will shut up!

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I think the problem lies in our style of play now,the bunch of players we have now is the best if not as good as the ones he had in season 94 and 99.Thats what Fergie said,and NO ONE knows Man United better than he does so we should respect that.I think its down to the coaching department,Brian Kidd was an enormous figure behind United's success yester-years because of his direct and counter attacking style of play.Now we're got Queiroz and I can see we are changing our style to a more,continental,total football style.It will take quite some time to be set as a default style for United.It cant work wonders now,but we'll see a difference in the future.The question is,will we be behind or infront of the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea by then?
 
OK, I agree that Arsenal are a class act. But, are they missing key players like Henry, Pires, Ljunberg, Berkgamp or Toure? No. You seem to forget we are missing Ferdinand, Heinze, Keane and V.Nistlerooy who are all very important. As for cover, Djemba-Djemba is an excellent player, and will grow into Keane`s shoes. Kleberson has been haunted by injuries and has yet to prove himself, so I am happy with our squad. But, yes, there is room for improvement, but at the end of the day, Arsenal are just sheer class at the moment, its not that we are shite, they are amazing.
 
Well behind Arsenal at least!

Arsenal play 2 there strengths so y dont we?

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I like Djemba Djemba but what i am saying is apart from him who has stepped up to be counted?

Smith and Djemba Djemba are the only 2 and as we know football is a team game!

Scholes has been AWOL as has Giggs but no as much!

We need to find pepple who can come in a play well when they aint!

You must agree with that?

If we buy Sneijder and Van der Vaart two of the best young players around bar Tevez!

Scholes and Giggs will have competition ther for makig them play better as well!
 
ninjabreakz said:
OK, I agree that Arsenal are a class act. But, are they missing key players like Henry, Pires, Ljunberg, Berkgamp or Toure? No. You seem to forget we are missing Ferdinand, Heinze, Keane and V.Nistlerooy who are all very important. As for cover, Djemba-Djemba is an excellent player, and will grow into Keane`s shoes. Kleberson has been haunted by injuries and has yet to prove himself, so I am happy with our squad. But, yes, there is room for improvement, but at the end of the day, Arsenal are just sheer class at the moment, its not that we are shite, they are amazing.
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We are missing Vieira and Sol Campbell (two out of our three key players), also Edu has been missing so he couldn't fill in for Vieira.

Djemba is a joke, he has poor passing, poor vision and not a good football brain. It makes me laugh when I see you Mancs claiming he can take over from Keane.

Three goals in four games, that is shite, regardless how awesome Arsenal have been.
 
I know people get sick and tired of hearing it, but I'll say it again; wait until Ruud, Rio, Keane, Brown and Heinze come back before judging.

We just have to keep our cool and avoid LOSING games until they come back.
 
Don Domenico said:
I really don't agree. I've yet to see Ronaldo beat his direct opponent.
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Ronaldo Moves
[if anything wrong with the link lemme know]
I have a couple more vids of him.
He simply breaks the defenders.

For such a young player, he is a great player, and remember that the hype around him exists for various reasons, number 7, the Ronaldo name, the abilitie to drible easily, and playing attractive football, but very efective but attractive.

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I really don't think Ronaldo plays that attractively actually.
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that is just an opinion wich is respect... there are surely lot's of players out there that u love to see play, and that somebody else doesn't! ;)

can't hang a player who is only 19, and that as clearly improved a lot during the season... it is expected he improves more...

About Man Utd, of course they can't play the best of football, they lack key players...
Arsenal without Henry and Pires would had thought time winning games, and Henry is the key player of arsenal no matter what u all say...
He scores goals and creates goals chances...
Of course Arsenal have a diamond in there that is becoming world class - Reyes.
 
golless draw. bloody hell. ive just about had it with all the arguments going on in here. enough about ronaldo's stepovers, no more.

if there is one thing im bewildered about, is that phil neville hasnt started a match once this season for united. it's always been djemba, or kleber. and why was giggs not started today? ronaldo and giggs compliment each other because they STICK TO THEIR POSITIONS. without giggs, ronaldo was forced to come inside alot and that didnt give us the width that we needed. i understand kleber has had injuries, but someone has already said it here, phil has been with the core of today's 11 much more than kleber.

our next fixture is what, bolton at the reebok? this everton club was a test for us, well timed because this bolton club is sitting pretty behind the gooners and chelski. if we couldnt even squeak in a gol past nigel feckin martyn, how do we expect to get one past in-form jussi jaaskelainen? not to mention now we'll have henrik pedersen and jay jay running down our throat PLUS running into a solid wall of fullbacks led by the legendary fernando hierro.

this is the most crucial part of the season, and its only september...

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jogi said:
Djemba is a joke, he has poor passing, poor vision and not a good football brain. It makes me laugh when I see you Mancs claiming he can take over from Keane.
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ive got to agree. ive never really liked djemba to start with, he seemed like the missing link even when we beat norwich. neville in front of djemba i say.

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People can rite United off now,but just be prepared to look like a twat at the end of the season. Fergie has odopted a new playing style from two seasons ago.
which is similar to chelsea's type which is more focused on possesion and holding the play and protecting the defense which works much better in champions league coz when we played all out attack we always got caught out on counter,and thats what could happen to arsenal with their type of play which is exciting.

I think fergie knows what he is doing and knows what he wants and when all is against him and his team,united always comeback fighting.At the mo im not too worried i can be patient as the premiership aint goin to be decided 4weeks into the season,although upfront it is showing how much we are missing RVNs hungry goal poaching instincts which is worrying considerin he is the only in the box stiker we have
 
right, smith and saha tend to like to come back and carry the ball a bit more. this was the problem with having scholes playing in the attack, hes a master at spraying the balls left right and centre, soo it suits him better to play in the middle of the park. smith and especially saha need to learn to be more lazy (as weird as that sounds) and stay on the last defender. in this upcoming match against wonderers, i would think that would be hierro. but i think by the time that weekend comes by, RVN will be in better fitness? he was projected to be out for a month yes? anyhow, it would suit saha's attacking mentality if he just fed off of the mistakes hierro will make by harrasing the back line of bolton. especially when we know the home side tend to back off a bit more.

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ps give me some time, im trying to come up with something about counter-attack football.
 
again, this is really crucial...as long as we don't lose, then we still have a brink...right now, we are just a medium team as we don't have the key players...

as to Ronaldo...as we saw in Athens and his few games here...he is tired...but we need him, that's why he's playing...but not for too long as he is tired...really really hard to play well....so, i am a little scared about this part...
 
Once Keane comes back i think youll look much more solid but i fear if you lose one more games in the next five it may be too far to catch up
Thats if Arsenal and Chelsea continue the way they are at the moment
 
counter attacking football. in my opinion, is what makes the game soo exciting. it rarely happens now, but the masters of this tactic, imo, is AC Milan and Arsenal. very few clubs use this however, and i can guess why. possession, as mentioned before, is a key part of the game and every club wants to keep most of it during a match. man utd are no exception, passing amongst themselves in the back field, great teasing crosses that if not completed, can come back to the middle of the pitch and allows for another try. but eventually the opposing team will make their moves. once theyve been stopped, the defense must turn into an attack. arsenal and milan have a player whos very attack minded even from the back. somebody like andrea pirlo and patrick vieira for milan and arsenal respectively can make one good looping pass to find an attacker or winger and just like that, they have a gol.

united could try that, but as mentioned, this style has been faulty. if the pass works, the entire team will move forward, but if the carrier loses the ball, it can become catastrophic.


in conclusion, i like united's avg of 53-55% possesion, but if its mixed with a little counter attack, thats the best brand of football.

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At the moment in time, we need Phil Neville holding it all together so that we can have Scholes, Giggs, Ronaldo, Saha and Smith all venturing forward. Phil Neville is solid. I can't see why Djemba is being selected ahead of him. I think they are more or less the same at what they do. Kleberson is slightly different ... he's not actually a defensive midfielder ... but he can pass the ball well.

But ... definitely, Phil Neville must be starting in the absence of Keane.
 
Blah. Scoreless crap. The three post hits weren't even great chances. Saha and Smith, surprisingly, looked awful in the air, and Saha's miss in the first half was indicative of the whole match. Don't know what Sir Alex has in mind, but it better start materialising soon, or else we'll have to win out the season come, hmm, about Decemeber.

Everton played decently well, thought that defense was tight in the air, so why United wouldn't try some ground work I don't know. Ronaldo was decent, I agree that they need him and Giggs on at the same time. But still, United need to stop feeling sorry for themselves abotu close misses and start winning. Or else they'll be playing just for champions league and FA cup by next month...

Anyone heard anyhting about ruud?
 
Oh and Silvestre had his worst performance I've ever seen, while Spector actually pretty well. The sooner Silvestre can be warming the bench the better, if the last two games are any indication. He played so well on Weds, but so badly...inconsitency is not really an option for a full back.
 
Why the FUCK wasnt Djemba-Djemba starting or P Neville?

Instead that utterly crap footballer Fletcher was starting!

WHY O WHY?

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Dead Man said:
Why the FUCK wasnt Djemba-Djemba starting or P Neville?

Instead that utterly crap footballer Fletcher was starting!

WHY O WHY?

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do you have the slightest clue what your talking about????

Fletcher and Crap? not two words you usually associate he's a good player man a draw and people start throwing in the towel pathetic
 
Alucard said:
obviously this domenico guy is just jealous that whatever team he supports hasn;t got an exciting prospect like Ronaldo.
The boy is only 19, and people expect miracles, consistency and a complete player at such a young age
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Yeah mate i'm dead jealous :roll:. I simply don't think he is such a big talent as the hype suggest he is. Granted, Juve screw up a lot of talents, but Juve have their only talented right winger, namey Ruben Olivera.
The boy is only 19, and people expect miracles, consistency and a complete player at such a young age.

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do you guys think spector is going to keep his postiton, or his place, he has a load of talent, he can forwards and play defense... I also think he has some excellent pace....
 
u man utd guys must be happy now...
4 great strikers... Nistelrooy, Smith, Saha, and now Rooney!

Heard that Everton now wants McCarthry of Porto, to compensate...

Anyways, how much was rooney?
 
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The Prodigy and The Master.

I think he'll occupy the number 8 jersey.
 
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