Manchester City Thread

Mangala has reportedly agreed to join and will have his medical tomorrow. With that it looks like we're done for the summer at least in terms of incomings ...unless we need to replace Yaya or someone else, that is.

GK: Willy Caballero £4.4m
RB: Bacary Sagna £0m
CB: Elaquim Mangala £31.8m
CDM: Fernando Reges £12m
CM: Bruno Zuculini £1.5m

minus 2m for Barry = £47.7m. Bang on 60m Euros in today's exchange rate.

As it stands however we have 18 over seas players in the squad and so one will need to be sold to meet the PL HG rules.
Those vulnerable to being sold are Garcia and perhaps Jovetic (it Inter stump up a fee too good to turn down). If it ends up being the latter our interest in Barkley may intensify. Negredo looks like he will stay with Atletico opting for Mandzukic

We scored 156 goals last season so it makes sense to bolster defensive areas and the players we have signed are all very good players. Time will tell whether it will be enough with all our rivals bar LFC (atm) strengthening.
Last season Kompany, Yaya, Silva and Aguero only started 5 games together. You would think that this can't happen again so we should be stronger anyway before taking into account any transfer activity. On top of that, if he stays, Jovetic will be like a new signing given that he was injured for over half the season last year. Also, there will be no bedding in period for Pellegrini so - fingers crossed - we shouldn't have a repeat of our terrible early season away form from last term.

As things stand (tho a lot can change still) my confidence rests on Aguero's fitness. if he can get over his injuries I'll be confident of retaining the title. if not, I'd make Chelsea pretty strong favourites. Arsenal are clearly serious about challenging, Utd will obviously sign some top quality players, LFC have a ton to spend and Spurs have a quality manager at last. It's going to be a great season at the top whoever wins it in the end.
 
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After seeing Fernandinho performance against Germany, i'm convinced you need a real world class DMF if you want to have a chance for the CL.
IMO he was one of your most important players in the EPL, but he was disastrous against Kroos and co...and if Kroos would join your red friends...
 
gerd said:
After seeing Fernandinho performance against Germany, i'm convinced you need a real world class DMF if you want to have a chance for the CL.
IMO he was one of your most important players in the EPL, but he was disastrous against Kroos and co...and if Kroos would join your red friends...
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I would just not rate a player based on one match, especially that semi final.
There were so many circumstances that had nothing to do with football putting enormous pressure on all players.
 
Not about to base my opinion on 45 minutes of football, esp. not that 45 mins. He gave the ball away once, other than that he couldn't get involved because he was surrounded by a clown on crack, a hell of a lot of average and was completely outnumbered by a well oiled German machine.
i agree tho that we need a better CDM/DMF specialist for the CL/big games than Garcia (that's not Fernandinho's position) and Fernando Reges has been brought in for that purpose. Whether he's world class or not I don't know but he's highly regarded as a CDM/DMF.
 
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gerd said:
After seeing Fernandinho performance against Germany, i'm convinced you need a real world class DMF if you want to have a chance for the CL.
IMO he was one of your most important players in the EPL, but he was disastrous against Kroos and co...and if Kroos would join your red friends...
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you may have missed it Gerd but Kroos has been announced as a Real Madrid player.
 
Is that official Younggun ?
Jesus why are all these players going to Madrid .

And what about James Rodriguez, wasn't he supposed to go to Real Madrid?

And this for a team that should have been bankrupt several times if not for the illegal support of the communidad de Madrid...disgusting...would have been better for Kroos to go to Man United...
 
RM have bought cheap for being 'RM' and sold heavenly...Napoli alone gav`em over +£55m (players they bought for chicken feed) and Arsenal £42m (Ozil was bought for 12m) Di Maria was bought for £21m and being sold to MUTD for £40m . Khedira was bought under 10m? not sure might be sold for £24m.

RM are striving to keep a business model since last season. They made record selling last season. The banks applaud their efforts I`d imagine.
 
It's not RM that bought cheap, it was Mourinho. Pellegrini spent like 200m and Ancelotti already spent a 100m (on a single player!) and he'll spend more.

RM should be very thankful they had Mourinho there, otherwise they would be getting more loans in order to be active on the market (like Pérez always does). This goes to demonstrate how much influential Mourinho is on his teams.
 
no never, never... never...mou doesn`t look at a club`s bank w/ concerns. The bidding is not done by Mou

Last season RM sold over 100m and bought over 100m. Mou is just a coach he doesnt have that power. If you want to talk about a manager at a club that`s a different subject to what is being said. Mou never worked a shoe string budget, he complains about being limit w/ funds. Mou left RM ,because his native negative football tactics and his management skillz imploded the club . He was a virus to humanity at the club. I don`t even hate Mou anymore :))
 
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amineken22 said:
It's not RM that bought cheap, it was Mourinho. Pellegrini spent like 200m and Ancelotti already spent a 100m (on a single player!) and he'll spend more.

RM should be very thankful they had Mourinho there, otherwise they would be getting more loans in order to be active on the market (like Pérez always does). This goes to demonstrate how much influential Mourinho is on his teams.
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Pellegrini didn't sign any of those players and Ancelotti didn't sign Bale. Florentino Perez with Jorge Valdano were behind every one of the signings made during 2009 and Florentino Perez was behind the signing of Bale. But, you already know that, you just want to make Mourinho look good.
 
Mou doesn't have the power, really? Well then, why did those players sign for less money or accept lower wages than their fellow Merengues? Don't fool yourselves, he had a hand in every single transfer made during his tenure. He got the players he wanted with the price he wanted and he's always been able to do that, it takes a blind man not to notice.

I'm not trying to make him look good or bad, just saying that he had part in some of the club's positives as well, nothing more.
 
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Mou doesn't have the power, really? Well then, why did those players sign for less money or accept lower wages than their fellow Merengues? Don't fool yourselves, he had a hand in every single transfer made during his tenure. He got the players he wanted with the price he wanted and he's always been able to do that, it takes a blind man not to notice.

I'm not trying to make him look good or bad, just saying that he had part in some of the club's positives as well, nothing more.
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If you look at my comment, you'll notice that I didn't say anything about Mourinho. I was only talking about the signings that Florentino Perez and Valdano made during 2009 and the signing of Bale last year.
Of course, Mourinho had a lot of power. It 's not casual that soon after he starting being Madrid 's manager Valdano left the club.
 
Both actually :) 1st one is for you Mr. Quintero and 2nd one is for Liverbird and I'm sorry for misusing some words, it was both deliberate and unconscious.
 
Negredo was about to be sold, his injury might put off the deal. With him staying that makes 18 foreign players in the squad, the FA only allows 17 foreigners per squad, City will have to sell a player to match that quota.
I hope this makes it a bit clearer ;)

I'm wondering though: If one of those foreigners gets the English citizenship would the rule still apply or not?
 
Yes, thanks. I thought that the prospect of him being sold was over when Atheltico Madrid bought Mandzukic
 
I have no idea tbh. Atlético might still be after him, especially after selling Adrián.

Also forgot to mention that City will have to sell if they buy a new player only, because as it stands they're alright.
 
They don't have to sell him, they can simply put Javi Garcia out of the CL squad. He still can be part of the EPL squad since he's a Spaniard and EU laws don't allow discrimination between member-states citizens.
 
They do. If they want to buy anyway.
The limit being talked about concerns the EPL squad though... so, If they buy Mangala for example, then García will be out of both CL and EPL squads ;)
 
Yea, strange article really. With Fernando coming in Garcia was the most likely of the foreign lads to leave anyway, unless we got a silly offer for Negredo or Jovetic. And even then Garcia would probably be sold because at best he'd be a backup to a player/position (Fernando/DMF) that we won't be using all the time.

IMO, Huws looks ready to take the 4th choice CM position

If Negredo is out for 3 months he won't be picked for the 1st CL squad so that's just one other that needs to be left out (Garcia) with the arrival of Mangala (whenever that gets done!)
 
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Why? In EU countries the freedom of movement of goods and persons doesn't allow a country to impose restriction that favours nationals over other member-states citizens. If City can buy 5 Englishman today and put them in the squad, the same must be applied for a Spaniard or a French. If they want they can go to court on that basis. Especially because a member-state citizen would loss his job solely becuase he's not Brittish.
 
Dunno, I think sport is allowed to ignore some EU laws. PL rules state you're only allowed 17 non-homegrown players in your squad over the age of 21. Once the player is older than 21 he is classed as non-homegrown unless he has been at an english club for more than 2 years prior to his 21st birthday.

It's basically identical to the CL squad rules from UEFA.
 
Is a complex situation, but Bosman Law proved that EU laws must apply on Football federations also. Maybe no one ever challenged that, but if City felt like going to court, I reckon that European Court will give them reason.
 
I dont think the homegrown rule means players have to English, we've had players from Brazil and France eligible as hoemegrown due to the age they joined.

Apologies in advance if i've missed the point.
 
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Is a complex situation, but Bosman Law proved that EU laws must apply on Football federations also. Maybe no one ever challenged that, but if City felt like going to court, I reckon that European Court will give them reason.
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I don't believe that's entirely true. I don't think it's a blanket enforecement that all EU labour laws must be extended to football, rather that certain laws have been used in specific cases.

I'm fairly sure UEFA can do what they want with regards to CL rules. It's a private competition by invitation. It's not an employer - the clubs are. I can't see how EU would be able to argue against anything UEFA did.
 
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I don't believe that's entirely true. I don't think it's a blanket enforecement that all EU labour laws must be extended to football, rather that certain laws have been used in specific cases.

I'm fairly sure UEFA can do what they want with regards to CL rules. It's a private competition by invitation. It's not an employer - the clubs are. I can't see how EU would be able to argue against anything UEFA did.
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Not all labour laws, even national ones, apply to football. But this is not a labour law itself. Is a basic principle of the EU that extends in all levels, not exclusive to labour in itself.

Against UEFA they cannot (within the European competitions only) but against the FA they can. UEFA is ruled by International Law, as for FA is ruled by English Law, and therefore must be in conformity with European law. I don't know the specifics of the Home-grown rule, but by EU standards an Englishman cannot be favoured and a EU citizen diminished in his rights. E.G., if a Englishman that made all his formation outside the British Isles count as non home-grown player than there's a case to be made for that rule to be in conformity with EU laws.
In most EU countries, an EU citizen count as a national for purposes of the foreigners aloud per team. Even in those with strict rules (such as Spain, only 3 outside players are aloud).
 
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