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if you're convinced of that then you don't watch enough football mate, sorry but Lucas has been our most consistent midfielder this season and is better than a lot of midfielders out there but he's the scapegoat for the dickheads that believe everything they read.
I watch a lot of football. I dont agree with you that he has been our best midfielder, but you re probably right and I and all the fans that think that with Aquilani we would improve a lot, we are all dickheads.
 
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Oh look, it's Jumbo in the Liverpool thread all of a sudden, I wonder why?

Are you for fucking real? I was laughing at that ream of bollocks that guy had been posting, I didn't even know your game was an early kick off until just now.

CHEER THE FUCK UP AND STOP BEING SO PARANOID
 
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Quite convenient, your timing. More quality posts in here by you yet again though.

Seriously, it really is like you're mostly in here just to take the piss, is there any need?
 
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:SHOCK:

I didnt even know you were playing until I saw your post and put 2 and 2 together. I assumed it was a normal 8pm kick off.

Whats so wrong with me laughing at that guys posts? It's funny.
 
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Tie is over now it seems. I could see us going out when Unirea scored as they defended so well at Anfield and they could've easily done the same and kept us out again.

This match shows, yet again, that our style of play is just utter rubbish this season. No attacking mentality whatsoever, no movement and no ambition. We sat there for a good while just knocking it around the defence at one point while Unirea also sat back.

Like I've said before, you just wouldn't see United and Arsenal sit back as much as we did there and what we do in general. I'm pretty fed up of seeing us as such a negative team when it's clear we can be so much more attacking as the end of last season showed.

I can't see us changing anytime soon though, and it's frustrating.
 
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God, you should try watching it through a crappy stream :D

I think you've just given Jumbo a 2 wu-comment free pass. He was talking about our Greek Scouser.
 
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Nope rather than just apologise for jumping to conclusions and having a go, he's decided to put me on ignore. :)

I can't say anything without being on the windup anyway which is why I've barely posted in here for weeks. The two times I have, neither trying to windup I've been moaned at so what's the point?
 
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I watch a lot of football. I dont agree with you that he has been our best midfielder, but you re probably right and I and all the fans that think that with Aquilani we would improve a lot, we are all dickheads.

get a grip lad, fuck's sake.

I never said we wouldn't improve with Aquilani did i? If it hadn't been for that Greek lad's disconnection with reality on the previous page you would have won the award for most loaded and twisted argument. As it stands you're just thick.
 
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Just watching Juve v Ajax, such a difference watching Juve play to how we do :(

That's a one off:D You're probably better off the way you play now than they do in the league! They had lost 9 games in their last 12 before they sacked Ferrara 2 weeks ago!
 
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get a grip lad, fuck's sake.

I never said we wouldn't improve with Aquilani did i? If it hadn't been for that Greek lad's disconnection with reality on the previous page you would have won the award for most loaded and twisted argument. As it stands you're just thick.
No, but you said that Lucas has been our best midfielder this season, so are you suggesting that Aquilani should replace Mascherano, because if you think that Lucas is our best midfielder then you probably dont think he shouldnt be a starter.
 
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It's not all black and white mate.

Perhaps Mascherano would play far better if he had Aquilani with him, and Lucas would play worse if he had Aquilani with him so you can't just say one should replace the other.
 
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No, but you said that Lucas has been our best midfielder this season, so are you suggesting that Aquilani should replace Mascherano, because if you think that Lucas is our best midfielder then you probably dont think he shouldnt be a starter.

When did i say that? Oh that's right...I didn't.

When you're ready to stop twisting my words then i'll talk with you about our formation, until that point i'm happy to see you ramble on like the rest of the Daily Mail readers who think Lucas, Kuyt and Benitez should be replaced by Aquilani, Pacheco and Dalglish.

Have fun.
 
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Some people here are accusing Jumbo of being a wind up merchant.
If i rea the discussions between Liverpool fans the last days, it seems you guys don't need jumbo to wind you up...

Yesterday i was listening to the Guardian's football podcast and some listener mailded that he thinks that Liverpool is not underachieving. He claims that Liverpool are overachieving (only less) than last year with the players they have. GThe regulars on the podcast tended to agree with him. I also tend to agree. Maybe this can put things in perspective for the Liverpool fans that are bitter now because they expected Liverpool to win the title this year.

Concerning Lucas. It's possible that he's doing a fine job for Liverpool, but he's simply not good enough for a team that wants to win the league title IMO. Your back four aren't good enough too. You need more players that are from the same level as Benayoun, Masscherano, Gerrard (Aquilani?) and the only real world class player you have which is obviously Torres.

Benitez sometimes makes strange decisions but i thibnk with the players he has, that he still does a splendid job. The only negative point is that he has bought too much players who turn out to be not good enough: Voronin (instead of Bellamy, look at Bellamy now...he's splendid at Man City), Skrtel, Riera, and i amfraid also Jovanovic. Jovanovic is a very good player for teams like Wigan, Stoke, Blackburn...
 
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Your back four aren't good enough too.

Oh damn! So THAT'S the problem! And here's me looking at the stats which show us to one of the teams to concede the least amount of goals since Benitez arrived and being known for having one of the tighest defences in the league. Reina getting the golden glove obviously came from all those shots where the strikers got passed our rubbish defence as well then.

:DOH:

You need more players that are from the same level as Benayoun, Masscherano, Gerrard (Aquilani?) and the only real world class player you have which is obviously Torres.

Reina isn't world class? Mascherano isn't? Agger was wanted by AC Milan last summer so he's not too bad a player either. Johnson is a half decent player. Gerrard is regarded by many to be up there as world class as well.

Benitez sometimes makes strange decisions but i thibnk with the players he has, that he still does a splendid job. The only negative point is that he has bought too much players who turn out to be not good enough: Voronin (instead of Bellamy, look at Bellamy now...he's splendid at Man City), Skrtel, Riera, and i amfraid also Jovanovic. Jovanovic is a very good player for teams like Wigan, Stoke, Blackburn...

Liverpool fans think highly of Skrtel.

Bellamy? What about Forlan and Veron?

I take it Ferguson doesn't sign players like Taibi and Djemba Djemba? Wenger doesn't sign players like Stepanovs and Cygan?

Jovanovic? Give us some money so we can buy better players then. As it is, we have zero money and are having to sign players on free transfers.

Some of your arguements make absoloutely no sense at all, Gerd.

Reading and listening to media myself as well, they make another point. Wenger hasn't won anything with Arsenal for years, why does he get away with critisism? Because he's building a team? He's been building that team for years, and not much has progressed really. They still play really nice football and are a joy to watch but don't have what it takes to finish cups/leagues for the most part.

Liverpool have won trophies, have been to more finals, recently. But it's fine for Wenger for some reason? What makes it more interesting is that Arsenal have always had the money to buy players as well, so surely they should take more critisism for failing to spend that money to make that final push? We haven't had as much money and the money we've made has mostly came from selling players, resulting in the squad being disrupted.

Look at the likes of United and Chelsea, they don't make mass overhauls of their squad. Tik pointed to it earlier, they've been able to take a good team and been able to buy one or two good players to improve that squad each season while only selling on the players who weren't good enough. We haven't been able to do that, we've had to sell players to try and bring in better ones, we've had no established squad for a long time now. The reason David Moores left as chairman was because he could see Liverpool were falling behind in finances and he couldn't afford to give us that extra money each season that the likes of United and Chelsea were getting without selling players. So he sold the club. To the Americans. And we know how that's turned out.

As Matherto said:

It's not all black and white mate.
 
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We have some decent players IMO. Just a shame Rafa's taught them to stand still when having possession.
 
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I forgot Reina Dags...the rest is still valid for me. Compare Skrtel to the CB's like: Carvalho, Ferdinand, Vidic, Vermaelen: he's not as good.
Aggar is better but he's injury prone. And going to Milan doens't mean a thing. Milan wanted Aggar but bought Onyewu...
Gerrard: just like Carragher i will shut up about them because i don't want to be seen as a wind up merchant.

And why are you guys so fixated by Man utd. I start about Liverpool and you counter with United. I don't care about United. I'm a Spurs fan (and yes Liverpool is the better and the bigger team). This is not about United, this is about Liverpool. I'm very fond of Everton, but it strikes me that in the Everton thread people talk as much about Liverpool as about Everton.

Same happens here with Man United. Football is about winning silverware not about a stupid rivalry that harms you as a club. Stop caring about Man United. Care about Liverpool. That's the first step to success.

You talk about Arsenal.
Well, Arsenal is the team that plays the best and most exciting football in the world. They are the one exception that football is about silverware. If Liverpool would play the same sort of football as Arsenal, they would loose but they would loose beautifully...and don't forget that Arsenal still can win the title. Liverpool came nowhere near in the year that was meant to be theirs...
If Arsenal can win at Stoke today, i think they become favourites considering that Chelsea and Man Utd still have to play each other...but yes they seem vulnerable, just like United and Chelsea. I think this season Liverpool has missed a unique opportunity to becopme champions because the other big three are very vulnerable.
 
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I forgot Reina Dags...the rest is still valid for me. Compare Skrtel to the CB's like: Carvalho, Ferdinand, Vidic, Vermaelen: he's not as good.
Aggar is better but he's injury prone. And going to Milan doens't mean a thing. Milan wanted Aggar but bought Onyewu...
Gerrard: just like Carragher i will shut up about them because i don't want to be seen as a wind up merchant.

And why are you guys so fixated by Man utd. I start about Liverpool and you counter with United. I don't care about United. I'm a Spurs fan (and yes Liverpool is the better and the bigger team). This is not about United, this is about Liverpool. I'm very fond of Everton, but it strikes me that in the Everton thread people talk as much about Liverpool as about Everton.

Same happens here with Man United. Football is about winning silverware not about a stupid rivalry that harms you as a club. Stop caring about Man United. Care about Liverpool. That's the first step to success.

You talk about Arsenal.
Well, Arsenal is the team that plays the best and most exciting football in the world. They are the one exception that football is about silverware. If Liverpool would play the same sort of football as Arsenal, they would loose but they would loose beautifully...and don't forget that Arsenal still can win the title. Liverpool came nowhere near in the year that was meant to be theirs...
If Arsenal can win at Stoke today, i think they become favourites considering that Chelsea and Man Utd still have to play each other...but yes they seem vulnerable, just like United and Chelsea. I think this season Liverpool has missed a unique opportunity to becopme champions because the other big three are very vulnerable.

I mentioned United for the fact that they've won the league more than anyone in recent times and, as such, they're the benchmark for any time wanting to win the league. Just because it's Manchester, don't take it how you think you want to. I also mentioned Arsenal and Chelsea.

And yes, Arsenal can still win the title. But what about winning the title since Wenger has been here? In fact haven't we finished above Arsenal a good few times since Benitez arrived? I can't be bothered checking records but I'm sure we have.
 
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