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this would be great, but i think it´s very soon to tell...

Only few teams can sign him looking at the money Anderlecht shurely would want...but the other thing is, with us he has place in first 11 or only Fernando to beat for the place.. While in other teams he would sit on bench.. except maybe Madrid..

he is 17 but we need goals and if he signs, we need him long term..
 
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Tony Barrett was asked a question during his Times webchat about the negative effect Cecil might have had on #LFC

"If Purslow is going to take his share of the credit for the role he played in removing Hicks and Gillett then he must also take his share of the blame for the state that Liverpool got themselves in on the pitch last summer.

"Roy Hodgson was Purslow's appointment. Joe Cole was pursued by Purslow from early in the year even though Benitez didn't want him. Purslow inserted clauses in the contracts of Reina and Torres which will allow both to leave this summer if certain conditions are met.

"Purslow told Reina he could choose his own goalkeeper coach following the departure of Xavi Valero only for Reina to then have 68-year-old Mike Felly foisted upon him.

"You get the picture."

TB: "Kenny undoubtedly wants the job long term, there is no question about that."

TB: "His contract situation is quite complex though as discussions about a new deal began last summer but were not concluded by Purslow"

TB: "I've got to hold my hands up and admit that right now I have no real ideas about who Liverpool are looking at this month."

TB: "At least there is no longer a need 2 worry about the Carlton Cole or Robert Huth inflicting their journeyman abilities on club though."

TB: "The manager has just changed + I've got feeling that will mean the profile of players LFC are looking to recruit will change also."

TB: "RH prioritised height + while it's true LFC are lacking in this department I've got a feeling that......

TB: "......Dalglish will put skill, passing ability and speed higher on his list of requirements."

TB: "LFC have definitely been keeping tabs on Suarez, both DC + his predecessor Macia have been regular watchers of Ajax this season."

TB: "I'm not sure a move for Suarez is imminent but I keep hearing the same rumours as you"

TB: "Half of Europe's top clubs are now aware of Lukaku but he's deffo the kind of promising young player that LFC should be looking at."

TB: "I like Owen Coyle, he's a very promising manager who plays the game the right way + is also steeped in philosophies of Shanks + Kenny"

TB: "Shanks and Kenny are Coyle's heroes. If Liverpool were to look to a British manager then he would be the obvious choice"

TB: NESV have created a monster by appointing KD. If LFC do even remotely well no one will want him to leave the manager's position"

TB: "but the owners have their hearts set on a younger man."

TB "Dalglish will definitely give the younger players a chance and don't be surprised if he fast tracks a couple of kids from the academy"

TB: "I can't see Poulsen or Konchesky being #LFC players come the start of next season, the only surprise is someone ever thought they were."

Tony B says Insua shouldn't have been allowed to leave on loan, "but he was on Purslow's list and didn't survive the cull."

Acknowledges downsides to Insua but letting him go out on loan to bring Konchesky in at cost > £4m "was ridiculous in the extreme."

TB: "Momentum + positivity that has been greeted by KD's return now needs to be built upon"

TB: "And what better way to do that than signing a few quality players to improve the squad?"

TB: " Purslow is still at the club in a non-executive role, ie in title only. He has no influence on the owners or their decisions."

TB: "A lot was said about Rafa + his relationship with the academy while he was manager and the truth is that for most of his reign......

TB: .....it was a dysfunctional one. But in his final year in the job he got the control he was looking for and was able to.....

TB: .....install a top class coaching set up. and entrust people he believed in with player recruitment. The fruits of that can be seen now"

TB: "The current youth team is Rafa's legacy."

TB: "It is also a result of the brilliant work put in by people like Dalglish, Rodolfo Borrell, Pep Segura and Frank McParland."

TB: "I'm pretty sure Clarke is seen as a specialist coach rather than a future manager. If + when Dalglish does step aside the he should...

TB: .....take on the role that Bob Paisley took on when Kenny himself was made player manager in 1985"
 
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Man just like waching the match yesterday that pic is so surreal,
so great to have Kenny in charge and a brand new fresh start(halfway through another poor season).

matherto said:
You played as well against us under Woy in the league at OT, nothings magically changed with Kenny in charge.
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Really? Are you being serious? The comeback only flattered the end result. Plus yesterday we did better in dealing with crosses and stoping
Nani. There's no such thing as magic and it's only been one game.
 
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PIPA23 said:
reading all the comments make me wonder..

I look on the brighter side...

We dont have stupid owners anymore - Hick and Gillete
We dont have clueless coach anymore - Roy Hodgson

We have new owners, we are stabilised as club.
We have Kenny Dalglish as coach - man who is Liverpool FC.
We have new asisstant coach soon.
We will have new permanent coach that the owners take care to search for.
We have best supporters in the world.
WE ARE STILL MOST SUCCESFULL CLUB.
We have one of bigest fanbase in world.

But most of all we have HOPE again. After half year i look forward to our next match..personaly. Nevermind the results that can be bad or not improved immediately..

So why so serious guys... ? It could have been much worst by this time..

Things will be good again i realy think so, already with new people around the club it will be visible, but we need patience...we are on crossroads this season in many ways, the owners, coach, the players.. many things need to rebuild and stabilise... we just need patience. And support the team.

Who agrees, give me high FIVE

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I agree....I have not been this excited for a while...
the club is slowly and surely getting back to better things...
off the pitch and now on the pitch...
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Nice post Pipa, good to see someone focussed on their club and looking forward positively instead of hiding behind all this referee bollocks.

I just read the last couple of pages back, it's actually quite pathetic and embarrassing what was said by a few people.

The penalty was soft, but there was contact (stupid from Agger). It's not clear whether it caused Berbatov to fall or whether he exagerrated, both arguments have merit and anyway, we were denied at least 2 other clear shouts(Skrtel on Jonny Evans, Shelvey on Giggs). Poor show from Webb considering we paid him off eh?

Anyway, how many times have you been awarded penalties for far more questionable calls when Gerrard has gone down in the box? I suppose that doesn't matter.

Gerrard's tackle was horrible, two footed and a clear act of petulance, having felt aggrieved by the penalty award and Rafael's challenge on Meireles just before. He deserved to go. Not the first time he's been sent off for this type of challenge either. Can't see how Webb can get criticised for this?

Just out of interest, who was the referee in the 3-2 at Old Trafford earlier this season? The match where you had a penalty awarded and then a debatable freekick which both resulted in goals. Also who was the ref who sent Vidic off against Liverpool in the game at Anfield in 2008? Who was the ref who sent Ronaldo off (for nothing) against Man City in 2009? Who was the ref who failed to send Palacios off for a disgusting challenge on Ronaldo? Fergie needs to have a word if he's supposed to be our twelfth man.

Incidentally, only 7 teams have had less penalties awarded to them in the league this season. Strange then considering we've scored more goals than everyone else, we spend most games on the front foot attacking and we have most of the refs on our payroll. On top of that we've missed 2 out of the 3 given.
 
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The match where you had a penalty awarded and then a debatable freekick which both resulted in goals.
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You mean the same ref that didn't red card the last man standing and that later set up the 3rd goal? :P

Haven't seen anything, from what I've read the penalty was soft (sometimes given, sometimes not) and the red card was justified. Gerrard should know better!

Looking forward to wednesday though, it's been more then a year since I last looked forward to a match! From what I have read the performance was improved with the correct tactics used. Hopefully see some of that on wednesday, is Gerrard suspended?
 
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I wasn't going to bother going on about Webb having gotten over my rant but seeing as Jumbo wants to carry it on, I figure I might as well post this:

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8750_6648615,00.html

Not that it matters, Jumbo is never going to see our side (our being everyone who doesn't support United really), and we're never going to see his or other United fans' point of view so not really worthwhile but this is the last I'll say on the matter.

Tik, Gerrard will be suspended for the games against Blackpool, Everton and Wolves. Not too fussed as, like I've said earlier in the thread, we play better without him in the side anyway. And he was pretty much guaranteed to be sent off against Everton anyway :LOL:

Just watched Kenny's press conference, brilliant. Love the way he comes across, the ease in his attitude, his jokey manner, his optimism and respect for the club. THAT's how you speak to the media! :D
 
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Sorry didn't mean to carry it on, I've just read the thread now. The 365 article is pretty poor, it's clearly written to generate a reaction and get hits for the site, not to mention that it's full of factual errors and inaccuracies. Some of the content is laughable too, all those quotes about the Tottenham game!! Jeeeeez, I've seen that penalty clip loads of times and I still don't really know for sure whether Gomes or Carrick got the final touch. And we scored 5 goals in the last half hour. Just stupid.

Anyway all it really proves is that he's given us some dodgy calls, and he's done the opposite too. In all that there's not one decision that is totally and inexplicably biased in our favour, they're all open to interpretation or debatable.

At yesterday's game there was definite contact from Agger (however minimal) and Gerrard dived in with 2 feet, studs up. You see far more obvious things given against other teams every week and yet the whole country is talking about how Webb is our 12th man. If we'd not got the penalty, I'm pretty sure he'd have given one of the other ones we should have had and if not we'd surely have pressed on and not played with so little energy to win the game.

EVERY time any decision that isn't totally clear cut goes our way we have days of endless debate about it, yet no other team gets the same level of scrutiny. The facts show we get less penalties awarded and less red cards to the opposition than our rivals. If you really want to believe there's some conspiracy then go for it, but one-eyed reporting and myopic view points don't change the facts.
 
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DagsJT said:
You'd think someone who was on a wind-up would at least get their facts right and not keep talking about "home form" when it's our away form that's been so poor :FAIL:
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What team's away form has been good this year? I mean the best away records are ours and City's but we have had a lot very mediocre performances with 4 or 5 complete passengers like performances from out players, same with City!

Everyone else has been pretty unsatisfied away from home apart from Blackpool, (still they get destroyed every now and again).

Away from home, you should just keep it tight for the next month r so. Work on making Anfield a fortress again! when i say work on the home form, it's about sweepig aside teams in the bottom half of the league who you should be beating without too many issues, This is something your not doing, and thats a big concern! It's making teams like Wolves don't got here and win!

In your predicament, it's vital you sort yourselfs out at home, You cannot afford to keep dropping points and losing at home! Where as away form home, let's face it, it's going to be tough whoever you face, and your not reall favorites to beat anyone!

Finally, me, wind up merchant? So what do you think I'm here to piss you off? Why? Am i a Man U fan? Everton fan? No I'm a Gooner! So why am i a wind up merchant and what's my goal? the reason i'm here is because that your been so awful this year I'd just like to discuss Liverpool and yes, I'm pessimistic but i believe when times aren't he best it's better to be harsh and direct than cling on to fairy stories like Newcastle did.
 
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How is our home form bad? How is it different to Arsenal, Chelsea or Man City's?
 
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Irrespective of Webb....
I think we played decently on Sunday....and Kenny will inspire this team
to do better....to play more attacking football and hopefully
that will mean Torres can play better.

That is what I am looking forward to.....let's close the chapter on Webb...
we lost ... end of story...we will also get lucky breaks from refs...

I am looking forward to our future....there is an excitement
because Dalglish knows our club inside out....he is the best
appointment we could have had at this point...
should have been chosen in the summer and given a full season
to show us what he can do....we surely would not have signed
konchesky and poulsen......
Hopefully if we can find a decent striker and 1 winger for this
january window, then I feel we can add on to the feel-good factor.

I totally share in PIPA's optimism....one by one we are ridding the club
of all the problems we were having off the pitch and in the management
side....and now Kenny is the best person to motivate the players
and if needed get rid of some of them.
 
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That's a great video, Bitter. The lad has got a ridiculous amount of talent and really does have potential to be one of the best in the world if he keeps up his progress. So exciting to have a player like him, as well as Sterling and Coady who are also showing huge promise.
 
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DagsJT said:
How is our home form bad? How is it different to Arsenal, Chelsea or Man City's?
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Our home form has been very disappointing but because of the quality of our squad (inconsistent but genuine) our Away form has bailed out our 3 defeats which were very winnable games!

With your team, don't have much of any confidence you can make sure losses against like Against Blackpool and Wolves dosen't happen again! Can you give me this guarantee?

3 games, one great game vs a rather bad Chelsea, and Villa and West Ham who pretty much rolled over (they are shit away from home anyway) Apart from that, haven't seen any convincing wins at home!

coming up at home is Everton, Fulham, Stoke City, Wigan Athletic! 12 points is more than possible and I'd say vital in building confidence. thats what i mean, Sort out he home form so shit like vs Wolves dosen't happen! If you do, you will be fine! Whilst away games like i said, there no place that your going to travel to where you' will e expected to win!
 
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No but I'm just saying they're not totally useless, they seem to raise their game for the bigger teams, they did against us too, although we played pretty shite.
 
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as i read somewhere it´s not the game against United that will show us how we are, but the games against small clubs, while United win matches even if not in best form, we loose matches we have to win...

Derby matches are always gamble...both of the teams are prepeared to give all.. we need to concentrate on beating small teams, not United..

Even better teams loose or draw against small...That happends sometimes..
 
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PIPA23 said:
as i read somewhere it´s not the game against United that will show us how we are, but the games against small clubs, while United win matches even if not in best form, we loose matches we have to win...

Derby matches are always gamble...both of the teams are prepeared to give all.. we need to concentrate on beating small teams, not United..

Even better teams loose or draw against small...That happends sometimes..
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Agreed....it was easier being pumped up against United in the FA cup...

now away to Blackpool...and home to Fulham next week...away to Wolves
...those are the ones we need to start winning...
 
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Jumbo_ said:
No but I'm just saying they're not totally useless, they seem to raise their game for the bigger teams, they did against us too, although we played pretty shite.
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At home they are tough!

Away from home they should provide a routine win for anyone in the top half!

DagsJT said:
YouTube - Holloway excited by Dalglish return

Found this strangely enthralling too:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...d-as-liverpool-fc-boss-video-100252-27961803/
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:WORSHIP:
 
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From what i see on MOTD, Wolves are capable of playing very good football but they concede far too many (early) and sloppy goals. Judging by the quality of football (and i know that is very subjective) IMO they should not go down. I largely prefer Wolves to teams like Birmingham and Blackburn.

Concerning Liverpool and Dalglish, i read on the Guardian's website, that he started one of his first (if not if first) press conference with a rant about Webb. That is a pretty stupid thing to do (Wenger often makes the same mistake). They should both learn from the master in manipulating referees: Ferguson. I don't like the way he constantly influences refs, but you got to admit that he's very, very good at it.
 
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Eh? I haven't read or saw any video of any "rant" or anything else like that. He got asked after the match what he thought of the penalty and he said it was a "joke", he didn't go on any more about it.
 
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Do they have a video by any chance? Would be interesting to see, even in his interview he wasn't in a bad mood or "ranting", just that bit about the penalty being a joke. Odd, especially from the Guardian who are usually pretty good as well.

The sense of optimism and unity between Liverpool fans since Saturday is remarkable. I'm not sure a lot of other fans will understand but having had a split in the fans for years about whether Rafa was good enough, and in-fighting about the owners and such ... it's just so good to have a club where we can all get behind the club together with everyone having faith in the manager and excited to see what FSG might bring.
 
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@JimmyRiceWriter To those asking, I believe Jason Banton is on trial at LFC after being released by Blackburn.

Jason Barton, 18 year-old striker currently on trial at #LFC, was very highly rated when he joined Blackburn from Arsenal 2 years ago.
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Any Arsenal fans know much about him?
 
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Steve Hunter on LFC.tv "This is like a new beginning for Pacheco. I know that Kenny is a big admirer of the man" #LFC
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Great to hear. Roy completely froze Pacheco out after the Northampton game like he was completely to blame, had a real risk of losing Pacheco back to a Spanish club so hopefully he'll get more time for the first team under Kenny.

Edit: Reserves just won 2-1, Pacheco with an assist and a goal.
 
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DagsJT said:
Any Arsenal fans know much about him?
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Never heard of him, sorry!

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Great to hear. Roy completely froze Pacheco out after the Northampton game like he was completely to blame, had a real risk of losing Pacheco back to a Spanish club so hopefully he'll get more time for the first team under Kenny.

Edit: Reserves just won 2-1, Pacheco with an assist and a goal.
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Play the guy, please! I know he will do well if you give him a chance!
 
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Rumours for a while that a new CEO will be announced tomorrow. Also six scouts have had their contracts ended today, including Macia's. Quite an eventful week or two it seems!
 
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