Liverpool Thread

[UJSupanova]

Re: Liverpool Thread

How dare you call me a glory hunter. How long ago was it when the likes of yourself were supporting the take over when Gillette and hicks first came calling, sayin it was nothing like the glazers. You were all in with glee and excitement chanting USA USA because you believed they were going to do a chelsea and bring money to buy you some success so you can gloat over United. I'm sure I can dig some quotes out if you like me to prove my point. The truth is you first loved the americans because they promised glory. Yet when you didnt get it you wanted new sugar daddy owners even though they were child abductors.

Where are all the old liverpool supporters that use to be here when things were going well? The only fitting word which sums up these types is fair-weather .

I'd like to see you dig some quotes from me to prove your "point", you're moaning because i called you a glory hunter yet you do the same to me and have nothing to base it on at all other than the fact that i wasn't a member of Evo-Web in 1997 when we hadn't won a trophy for two years.

Seriously mate, what is the point in you being here? You're only looking to start pointless arguments, it's pathetic.

So go on, off you go to scour for evidence of me showing my love for the owners, while you're there see if you can prove that i only started supporting Liverpool since we were winning - oh i suppose that means i must be a glory hunter because we've been winning things since 1893.

 

[Lami]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Wow! How old are you?

Wait... I lost count

 

[UJSupanova]

Re: Liverpool Thread

i just want him to back up his bullshit argument, that's all.

 

[Lami]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Was only joking about your age you being alive since late 19th century

Nevermind

 

[UJSupanova]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Sorry, thought you were calling me childish.

 

[YoungGun_UK]

Re: Liverpool Thread

To be fair I think concerning the PL our only real worry is Rooney, in the fact I don't think he'll be as good as last year and our goals were heavily reliant on him which is a fair point if he was to get injured but we do have proven quality in Berbatov and real potential in Hernandez and Macheda. We might sign Balotelli and if we do then I'll have no worries at all but that is a slight concern.

Our team doesn't rely on Rooney, only the goals probably you could say do and as a "team" we'll be better this year as most of our players our young and even younger players are improving. Nani, Valencia, Rafael, Gibson and Evans will be better players, Anderson and Berbatov can do better than what they've shown and players like Obertan, Cleverley, Macheda, Fabio, Welbeck will probably see more game time and are real talents.

I think Mascherano is as good as gone, you have lot of pressure on Aquilani (who is a injury prone) to run the midfield, Ngog will have improved but he's not good enough to cover Torres, Babel? can if he matures this year be a big player uptop and outwide. Overall I think your squad is weaker than City and Spurs and I can only see it getting weaker.

 

[Beliel]

Re: Liverpool Thread

i just want him to back up his bullshit argument, that's all.

You are going to look very silly soon, the same way DagsJT did when he tried to talk about debt

 

[UJSupanova]

Re: Liverpool Thread

can't wait to see what tenuous shite you come up with.

I like the fact that you've spent a lot of time trying to wind people up yet it's only taken me two posts or so to get you scouring the net for things you hope i've said in the past.

 

[Beliel]

Re: Liverpool Thread

can't wait to see what tenuous shite you come up with.

I like the fact that you've spent a lot of time trying to wind people up yet it's only taken me two posts or so to get you scouring the net for things you hope i've said in the past.

Not you specfically as you dont represent every single supporter. I'm talking about all the fans in general i.e the majority. So you dont need to get egoistical and jumped up and think this is all about you. Like I said I've been a member here way before your time son, this nothing new.

I'm not here to wind anyone up, I'm here to discuss football and have some kind of banter instead drab debate about rubbish. You cry like babies whenever anyone highlights certain things that wrong. I was here when things were going relatively well and most of the fans that were here before they jumped ship and started supporting city - were all mocking everton supporters and puffing their chests when they heard the news of new owners coming in.

Now things are on the other foot and liverpool are looking like becoming smaller than everton, you want protection from the mods because you only want to hear nice sweet and rosy things about your club. Just bunch of hypocrites and pathetic babies. If Everton or United were in such a state you'd all be gloating. Difference is we'd be strong enough to take it on the chin.

 

[UJSupanova]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Not you specfically as you dont represent every single supporter. I'm talking about all the fans in general i.e the majority. So you dont need to get egoistical and jumped up and think this is all about you. Like I said I've been a member here way before your time son, this nothing new.

I'm not here to wind anyone up, I'm here to discuss football and have some kind of banter instead drab debate about rubbish. You cry like babies whenever anyone highlights certain things that wrong. I was here when things were going relatively well and most of the fans that were here before they jumped ship and started supporting city - were all mocking everton supporters and puffing their chests when they heard the news of new owners coming in.

Now things are on the other foot and liverpool are looking like becoming smaller than everton, you want protection from the mods because you only want to hear nice sweet and rosy things about your club. Just bunch of hypocrites and pathetic babies. If Everton or United were in such a state you'd all be gloating. Difference is we'd be strong enough to take it on the chin.

Erm...i think you'll find i've been a member here for 6 months longer than you have, so you can drop the act, son.

I don't want protection from mods at all, i just get bored with idiots like yourself running your mouths about Liverpool in a deliberate attempt to wind people up.

Oh, and it's hilarious that suddenly you weren't about me specifically even though you promised to prove that i'd specifically praised the yanks in the past. Now you've realised that you can't find anything and are backtracking.

So, now that i've debunked your entire post, what's next?

 

[Beliel]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Erm...i think you'll find i've been a member here for 6 months longer than you have, so you can drop the act, son.

I don't want protection from mods at all, i just get bored with idiots like yourself running your mouths about Liverpool in a deliberate attempt to wind people up.

Oh, and it's hilarious that suddenly you weren't about me specifically even though you promised to prove that i'd specifically praised the yanks in the past. Now you've realised that you can't find anything and are backtracking.

So, now that i've debunked your entire post, what's next?

Wrong again sunshine, I been here years before under another alias from 2002.

Its hilarious you cant interpret posts correctly. I said I was going to show that all the the fans on here were backing gillete and hicks. If you take that literally to mean every single supporter including yourself than you're more simple than I thought. I'm sorry to disappoint you that its not all about you. I was never going to to search through your posts which is just sad and a waste of time which is what you wanted me to do for strange weird reason. Maybe you're creep who likes special attention.

My point here is simply to demonstrate you have glory hunting fans. The majority here were willing to give up the clubs traditions and values for money and success. In truth you're bunch sold their souls and now starting to pay the price that you bargained with. You can try and take out all your anger and woes on me simply because I state facts rather opinions which are very difficult for you to dispute without insults and crying.

Just wait patiently until I expose the hoards of glory hunting fans amongst yourselves before you start believing in more delusions about debunking anything son. I've got all the qoutes, some from members are left here now

 

[UJSupanova]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Wrong again sunshine, I been here years before under another alias from 2002.

Its hilarious you cant interpret posts correctly. I said I was going to show that all the the fans on here were backing gillete and hicks. If you take that literally to mean every single supporter including yourself than you're more simple than I thought. I'm sorry to disappoint you that its not all about you. I was never going to to search through your posts which is just sad and a waste of time which is what you wanted me to do for strange weird reason. Maybe you're creep who likes special attention.

My point here is simply to demonstrate you have glory hunting fans. The majority here were willing to give up the clubs traditions and values for money and success. In truth you're bunch sold their souls and now starting to pay the price that you bargained with. You can try and take out all your anger and woes on me simply because I state facts rather opinions which are very difficult for you to dispute without insults and crying.

Just wait patiently until I expose the hoards of glory hunting fans amongst yourselves before you start believing in more delusions about debunking anything son. I've got all the qoutes, some from members are left here now

one word that proves my point.

So you're saying that your point is that every Liverpool fan on a website dedicated to a computer game backed Hicks and Gillett? Wow, that definitely suggests that most Liverpool fans were supporting them as well then, as this place is such a good representation of normal fans. In total there's about 3 or 4 Liverpool fans on here that have actually been to Anfield, and probably less United fans who have been to Old Trafford. If that really is your point then you really are desperate lad.

I haven't taken any anger out on you at all, although the strange complex you seem to have would suggest i'm not the first person you've lashed out irrationally at on here.

 

[Beliel]

Re: Liverpool Thread

I've got quotes elsewhere from die hard match going liverpool fans who were interviewed and were completely behind the takeover 100%. So I'll add them in if you want try and suggest it was only fans here who don't attend matches.

You maybe should have stuck to on the pitch matters. Because my next post is going to embarrass one of your close buddies here who tries his best to deflect away from my points.

And look at you behaving like a victim, a poor innocent lamb who I just allegedly lash out at irrationally. You didn't call me an ''idiot''did you in you're previous post?

Here's a challenge for you... Try your best to take advise from the mods who you've been begging for help from and stop the flaming and try to stick to footballing matters.

Can you do that?

 

[DagsJT]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Apparantly Aquilani looks a lot slimmer and sharper these days, definately a good thing

Really hope he stays injury-free this season and can show us some of the talent we're lead to believe he's got tons of. I've been really impressed with the glimpses he showed last season and would love more of the same.

 

[dev_don]

Re: Liverpool Thread

I want to see spearing given a chance, hes got talent...Will be good to see if he can actually make it. I saw him for Leicester last season he wern't half bad

 

[DagsJT]

Re: Liverpool Thread

I'm not convinced about Spearing. I haven't seen much of him apart from the odd match and sub appearance but I'm not sure he's good enough for us or the Premier League.

I'd love to be wrong though

 

[dev_don]

Re: Liverpool Thread

your probally right but I stil think he has got the skills to make it. He needs a chance but it is going to be very difficult for him.

What about Darby I havent seen alot of him only here and there, I know he went onloan to swindon last year....do we actually have any outstanding english talent. Because the last players we produced to go on and make it were: Gerrard, Warnock & Guthrie, I cant think of anymore

 

[UJSupanova]

Re: Liverpool Thread

I've got quotes elsewhere from die hard match going liverpool fans who were interviewed and were completely behind the takeover 100%. So I'll add them in if you want try and suggest it was only fans here who don't attend matches.

You maybe should have stuck to on the pitch matters. Because my next post is going to embarrass one of your close buddies here who tries his best to deflect away from my points.

And look at you behaving like a victim, a poor innocent lamb who I just allegedly lash out at irrationally. You didn't call me an ''idiot''did you in you're previous post?

Here's a challenge for you... Try your best to take advise from the mods who you've been begging for help from and stop the flaming and try to stick to footballing matters.

Can you do that?

I did call you an idiot, because that's clearly what you are mate; an attention-seeking idiot. Just to clear up a few things before i switch off again, i didn't suggest it was only fans here who don't attend matches, or anything of the sort. I said that this forum is not exactly a good representation of all Liverpool fans and neither is any forum on the internet.

I'm pretty sure that if i looked hard enough i could find quotes from current yellow and green flag waving fans suggesting that they're in support of Glazer, but i won't do that because i'm not that desperate to prove something to someone i don't know.

I really hope you learn to deal with these problems you have, because they seem to be affecting your ability to understand logic and common sense.

 

[UJSupanova]

Re: Liverpool Thread

your probally right but I stil think he has got the skills to make it. He needs a chance but it is going to be very difficult for him.

What about Darby I havent seen alot of him only here and there, I know he went onloan to swindon last year....do we actually have any outstanding english talent. Because the last players we produced to go on and make it were: Gerrard, Warnock & Guthrie, I cant think of anymore

Martin Kelly looks like he could be quality, he was unlucky to get injured which basically ended any chance he had of breaking into the team last season.

 

[DagsJT]

Re: Liverpool Thread

your probally right but I stil think he has got the skills to make it. He needs a chance but it is going to be very difficult for him.

What about Darby I havent seen alot of him only here and there, I know he went onloan to swindon last year....do we actually have any outstanding english talent. Because the last players we produced to go on and make it were: Gerrard, Warnock & Guthrie, I cant think of anymore

I think Darby and Kelly both look like very good players, Kelly especially. Tom Ince is supposed to be a real talent as well, although he's just moving up to the reserves this season. He's with the pre-season squad in Switzerland so maybe we'll see him playing a bit?

Speaking of which, we play tomorrow at 6pm GMT against Al-Hilal if anyone didn't know

Photos of the squad in Switzerland:

http://lfcglobe.com/pictures-liverpool-squad-train-in-switzerland/

 

[Beliel]

Re: Liverpool Thread

I did call you an idiot, because that's clearly what you are mate; an attention-seeking idiot. Just to clear up a few things before i switch off again, i didn't suggest it was only fans here who don't attend matches, or anything of the sort. I said that this forum is not exactly a good representation of all Liverpool fans and neither is any forum on the internet.

I'm pretty sure that if i looked hard enough i could find quotes from current yellow and green flag waving fans suggesting that they're in support of Glazer, but i won't do that because i'm not that desperate to prove something to someone i don't know.

I really hope you learn to deal with these problems you have, because they seem to be affecting your ability to understand logic and common sense.

It seems you wasn't bought up with very well with any manners or refinement if you're happy to deliever insults yet cry wolf when happens to you.

You won't find any United fans supporting the glazer takeover. Considering soon as the news broke out, we were boycotting outside the old trafford gates dressed in black to show our mourning and disillusionment.. We still have many fans still dismayed by the takeover to this day who refuse to attend matches. It only goes to show our true indignation from day one and the respect towards the clubs history and traditions that we didn't ever want it taken over by money hungry businessman.

You only have to look at the likes of Mack who suddenly appear once their sugar daddy comes in and ditches all the home grown players for the latest foriegn superstar yet not one of the cityites bats an eye lid as they simply want glory at all costs.

 

[UJSupanova]

Re: Liverpool Thread

this is almost too easy...

 

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Oh just ignore him. Or at the very least stop quoting his nonsense to save the rest of us from it!

Apparantly Aquilani looks a lot slimmer and sharper these days, definately a good thing

Surely his eyes can't be any closer together?!

I'll get my coat...

But good to read the doc saying he has now completely recovered and is looking sharp. Will be interesting to see how he does this season and whether he was a good signing. You would hope these little things with the top players staying with a new lease of life under the new manager will get them to atleast play some decent football this season.

 

[Lami]

Re: Liverpool Thread

It seems you wasn't bought up with very well with any manners or refinement if you're happy to deliever insults yet cry wolf when happens to you.

You won't find any United fans supporting the glazer takeover. Considering soon as the news broke out, we were boycotting outside the old trafford gates dressed in black to show our mourning and disillusionment.. We still have many fans still dismayed by the takeover to this day who refuse to attend matches. It only goes to show our true indignation from day one and the respect towards the clubs history and traditions that we didn't ever want it taken over by money hungry businessman.

You only have to look at the likes of Mack who suddenly appear once their sugar daddy comes in and ditches all the home grown players for the latest foriegn superstar yet not one of the cityites bats an eye lid as they simply want glory at all costs.

Please give me one club that doesn't look for glory at any cost. Whether they're rich, standard or poor they all look for glory anywhere, everywhere. The rich try to lure the best around the world, while the lesser clubs try to hunt for good enough players for the budget money they have, and the poorer ones will try their homegrown player plus look at loans from bigger clubs and try buying players from other clubs of the same league, or lesser.

There's nothing wrong with City fans enjoying their current rich era. They feel they can have the quality players that the rich clubs always lured.

Anyway, tbh with you, it seems to me you keep going around in circles and repeating the same words again and again trying to prove a point that won't make a difference on here. People mainly come on these boards for a good chat and a few banter here and there, but if they're going to be dragged into your black hole day in day out then I fail to see them coming back on here. That's not what we want, because you're coming across as a complete turn off.

FYI, no member has asked for protection. That's nonsense. Pathetic coming from you, making it sound like your that important and we need to protect people from you.

You do have the right to go into club threads and discuss with people, but if all you do is go in to dig for and stir trouble then I fear the worse for you.

Make of this what you will.

 

[dev_don]

Re: Liverpool Thread

http://tomkinstimes.com/2010/07/emerging-from-a-red-shadow/

A good read i think: About the future of the "top four".

 

[Beliel]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Ok all the glory hunting hick and gillet supporting posts are in.
Proving just I said that there were many here willing to give up the clubs tradition and values for money and glory just so they could finally compete with the likes of United and Chelsea. You thank should USJ for me having to bring up this quotes as doesnt when I say things I always back them up

Below Daga JT himself so eager and willing for the club to sell to the owners just so they could compete

big club Liverpool have held on too their traditions as long as possible, thats left them struggling to compete financially with Man u and chelsea and even Arsenal, so this was always needed to happen[/B].{/QUOTE]

The man tells the truth.

We've got the money and we can mix it with Utd on the transfer front now

. We're getting there, each year we're getting closer to challenging/winning the league though. And this year I feel we have got a squad to really compete with Utd/Chelsea/Arsenal.

Here's another one excited by all the money that was promised by your owners

Sorry, I missed this earlier.

The US bid is made up of TWO very wealthy businessmen. They are splitting it 50-50. The deal includes a guaranteed 215m towards the stadium. The cost of the stadium is likely to be around that mark, but judging by the current price of commodities, that will probably rise to 300m+

225m is to buy out the shareholders and wipe out debt. So in total its 470m. Not exactly a bad deal. Stadium sharing has been ruled out, and it is rumoured in the papers, tabloid and broadsheet that Benitez will have 100-150m to spend in the summer.
Not exactly a rip-off eh?.

Looks the Gillet deal is on the way then....Had a relook of the deal and it looks good. Hope the club benefits from it in the long term

From what ive read it doesnt look like there will be an infinite transfer budget. With the two already owning sportclubs they will be looking to make it a profitable business out of it. Thats a big difference from chelsea isnt it? Wasnt their wagebill 110% of their turnover? We'll be better off surely.

USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA
Welcome aboard y'all!!!

Looks like DIC have pulled out. Call me a bigot, but I'd rarther an American business man has control of the club than an Arab royal family with a rather merky past..

Apparently Gillet had ruled out the groundshare possibility.

The team he runs in Canada or wherever it is, is apparently one of the best run teams in the country.

DIC took far too long to look at the books I'm afraid.

Here is some more quotes below from match going ones

I approached the arrival of Hicks and Gillett with an open mind, and gave them the benefit of the doubt following some impressive soundbites when taking charge, and allowing Benítez to finally sign an expensive world-class player in the summer.

All in all these two seem to be a perfect fit and have the necessary funds and experience in the right areas to really make this club a force to be reckoned with both on and off the field. This deal has brought us everything we could have hoped for.

This takeover has received a cautious welcome by Liverpool fans and there are a few who don’t seem to welcome it at all, but I have to say, I’m delighted. As far as I’m concerned, we’re a damn sight better off now, then we have been for many years. I admit that no matter who took over, I’d be saying that we’ve got to support them and give them a chance. However, I really like these guys.

They are winners and I’m excited about the future of the club in their hands. So I welcome Mr Gillett and Mr Hicks and I truly believe that with the club in their hands, the future will be bright, the future will be RED!

 

[DagsJT]

Re: Liverpool Thread

http://tomkinstimes.com/2010/07/emerging-from-a-red-shadow/

A good read i think: About the future of the "top four".

Just read that, pretty good summary and a good read. Cheers

 

[gerd]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Beliel: you are ninjabreakz...

 

[DagsJT]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Liverpool are off to Macedonia or Armenia in the Europa League qualifying game, not the best places to travel to and was hoping for something a bit closer to home.

 

[Beliel]

Re: Liverpool Thread

Beliel: you are ninjabreakz...

I'm very far from being ninjabreakz. That child was of limited knowlegde when it came to football matters. I know far more than most here compared to ninjabreaks.

He'd only come out and spout rubbish with no substance. So please don't associate me that fool please.