FIFA 20 Discussion (Console Versions)

Do EA actually know that they're doing this or are they just releasing this for the futters then they'll patch it back to its original state for the offline players once everyone buys it?
 
goalgerd said:
Do EA actually know that they're doing this or are they just releasing this for the futters then they'll patch it back to its original state for the offline players once everyone buys it?
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No.. by the sounds of it the game was incredibly different and then they patched it, because of feedback during the BETA period.

It has been a mess since but since the FUT players love it, that's it, this is the direction FIFA 20 is now going to go in.

Anyway I am off to play Football Glory on my Amiga as it is less arcadey than FIFA.
 
I like the gameplay, I think it's going in the right direction. The AI is incredibly passive right now, though. Waiting for the Day 1 patch.
 
majuh said:
I like the gameplay, I think it's going in the right direction. The AI is incredibly passive right now, though. Waiting for the Day 1 patch.
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Didn’t think it would be as bad people said on here, played one half on Ultimate difficulty and turned it off. Seriously what is the point. Arcade passing and literally no defensive ai, shocking stuff. Reminds me of fifa 15 but worse
 
Just went to change my settings to slow to try and give it more of a chance and realised that by syncing my settings from previous versions, it meant I was already on slow all this time. Fucking hell what a disaster this game is.
 
I saw a video of Arsenal's second Europa League goal last night on Twitter and I have to say, it did make FIFA's positioning and total lack of pressing look authentic.

But it's just so dull. As @Matt1234 has just said, the passing is so arcade. So fast and perfect.

They ruined the first beta. They took everything good out of it. I've never seen anything like this.
 
Think i'm done giving it chances. Continued the career I started yesterday and beat Chelsea 5 - 1 and then Wolves 6 - 2 (Lingard scoring all 6!!), both on Legendary.

It's honestly the worst football game i've played for a decade, and it's genuinely saddening that the game is a write off in its current state as the new features in career mode, while minor, are quite interesting and make me want to play more.

Hoping for a day one patch to get it up to Fifa 19 standard at least.
 
So DL the 10 hour trial from EA acces.
More interested in seeing what content they have,at least first off all.
Gameplay will come after that,but from what I’ve seen so far (videos etc) I sure hope it’s better than that!
 
Hopefully all the negative comments from people will kick ea up the butt, i doubt it as long as they keep rolling in the £$ whywould they bother
Not even sure how this mess could be fixed as it's gonna need far more than just sliders
At least ea's version of A.I has another meaning, absent intelligence, the players are some of the dumbest i've seen in a game.
 
Does the AI actually give anyway fouls??

It's better than 19 from the free hours I've played on the trial, but isn't a particularly high bar.
 
grizzuk said:
Hopefully all the negative comments from people will kick ea up the butt, i doubt it as long as they keep rolling in the £$ whywould they bother
Not even sure how this mess could be fixed as it's gonna need far more than just sliders
At least ea's version of A.I has another meaning, absent intelligence, the players are some of the dumbest i've seen in a game.
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I'm not so sure. The impressions I've seen so far on the likes of Reddit, the FIFA forums, and Operation Sports have been for the most part, postive. Someone even said that the pace and feel of the game is the most realistic they've ever encountered in a football game. Let that sink in for a moment.
 
Had a go at it (two games)
And though when being on the ball,I just set up few sliders the way I have it in 19,it felt a bit weightier!
Really good when passin/crossing it.
But the way the HUM players move around?
Looks like they're not touching the grass,really weird,didn't touch any of the sprint/acc sliders at all.
Then there is the CPU!
Not one pass backwards,sideways sometimes,never backwards!
And the way they move?
Animations when passing?
Changing directions on a dime?

These issues won't be solved by sliders, unfortunately!

I started my old Borussia save in FIFA 18,and sadly that game is miles ahead on the issues I described.
Redhat said:
is the most realistic they've ever encountered in a football game.
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Hey that's an opinion

I honestly hoped this game would be good,or even great,though I enjoyed 19.
But this is a pass (day one for sure) for me.
 
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Redhat said:
I'm not so sure. The impressions I've seen so far on the likes of Reddit, the FIFA forums, and Operation Sports have been for the most part, postive. Someone even said that the pace and feel of the game is the most realistic they've ever encountered in a football game. Let that sink in for a moment.
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This. Lots of the hardcore FUTers are saying it's the best ever. Sadly for us, it came at the expense of single player gameplay.

Gotta be honest. Looking at all the FUT content they've now got for the mode has me really wanting to like FUT. Haven't played it yet, but my only hope I guess is that the overall competitive experience is good enough that I can get over the bad football bits.

I keep trying to tell myself that the single player gameplay is better than it seems, that maybe I still have PES on the brain, but... ugh. Just ugh.
 
mfmaxpower said:
FIFA is an excellent card game. It's a shit football game. Not much more to say.
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I have never agreed more with a comment in my life. I actually did cancel my preorder and didn't regret it. I gave the Access-version 2 chances and deleted it twice after 2 games. It is an awful game and there is no fun coming up while playing. I will wait until PES 2020 is on sale in 2-3 weeks and buy the Legend Edition.
 
I tried not to believe the comments, the pace is fine but Jesus Christ you can just literally walk through the non existent defenders, this is literally the worst fifa since 2007, it’s horrendous, how the hell did they get from the first beta to this? Absolute travesty
 
jaygrim said:
Am I the only person that thinks it's ok?
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No I enjoy it too!

Videos on xbox One X.

Manchester United - Everton :
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/2daae62e-e1b3-4ce5-af76-c5372d873693
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/d5dc1f02-6ff5-4840-8003-971ed9e34aed
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/dd2e2cff-04df-43a8-a545-93358d7272b1
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/3f62030c-1306-4b54-87b1-2111472f40d8
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/3309cacf-b03a-4720-8728-6b6242358800

Athlético Valence
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/885bab0b-bc9b-468b-a294-40372b8fd464
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/1b58cb5c-4c45-46b0-99fb-82565b0a6b8d
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/750a9a71-93ef-4524-a807-498816da427a

OL - ASSE
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/735017cf-5af1-4450-b782-20fbfb62ea4e
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/620b84d5-9694-43ff-a15a-16034731aed2
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/bc6106f0-27d8-4c85-96ec-84c1ff9317e2
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/e8cef195-4e47-4b60-859e-b34ab6684ebb

Angleterre - France
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/a25b6fc3-0450-499a-8995-8f110fd53ecf
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/1d15cff4-db09-42f7-a1c4-c1239d7b1997
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/5ad50be2-a528-48bf-869d-8c2afe98b5c1
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/59c8048b-f961-4eaa-afcd-a0d14820d037

Bayer Leverkusen - Bayern Munich
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/486da43e-d595-4194-af08-cf987764f5ca
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/2f579045-1007-4c22-b0b3-4760efc7fccd
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/90b8ecdd-6794-42ed-9d7a-497c2549b3f2
https://xboxclips.com/Saturator/18665868-3158-463f-b498-65ceaffbfebe


Videos on PS4 Pro

Manchester - Arsenal :

Barçà - Real :

OL - LOSC :
https://youtu.be/tcmybvDfApo

Milan - Inter :
https://youtu.be/EUfq9H70B6Y
https://youtu.be/D96PetDhhZA

Bayer 4 - Leizip :
https://youtu.be/WvtpiyFUoQM
https://youtu.be/eSR0OB0n8I0

LA Galaxy - LCL
https://youtu.be/IxHKY2Ollas

Angleterre - Pays Bas
https://youtu.be/F-6hr1HSxCs

OM - Manchester City
https://youtu.be/fYX5KQG5gto
 
Well shit, maybe my opinion's changing. I started a Champions League tournament on Ultimate difficulty, choosing to play as Dortmund, Liverpool, and Chelsea, and... I didn't hate it. Kinda started to grow on me actually. I lost every game - dunno if that's because it's actually more difficult this year, or just because I'm clumsy from playing so much PES and forgetting the controls. Best thing about the losses were I could see how the goals scored against me were due to my bad defending.

Right now, I only have two major gripes: just how far back your defenders stay off the attackers, regardless of tactics, and how still AI defenders struggle with tracking runs from midfield, and how they just generally suck at getting and staying goal side of their marks. The first bit is really pissing me off though - even when using the team press quick tactic, your midfielders and forwards... just do nothing. It means that even mediocre teams don't have an issue moving the ball up the pitch. Maybe this will improve for me as I improve, but it doesn't seem right.

But I'll give EA credit when it's due - there's a lot of improvements here that I like:
  • Presentation wise, this game is simply awesome. Just doing stuff in the menus makes me cringe at the thought of going back to PES. I thought 19 was very blah in the graphics department but I'm liking 20 more.
  • Love that they thickened up the player models a bit. This is the first game in forever that I don't hate the player models.
  • So many lovely animations. The variety is superb. I also think they've gotten rid of some of the worst ones, or at least smoothed them out.
  • Really like what I've seen from the CPU attacking AI. Elite dribblers will actually skill you.
  • 1-on-1 defending is pretty good; at least a massive improvement over before. I can see why people would really be enjoying this online. I also like that I'm finding it more difficult to get past the CPU defenders - skills don't feel quite as OP - but maybe it's just me being rusty.
  • Non scanned player faces have been nicely improved. This is honestly shocking to me, since FUT is mostly about the stars, who for the most part all have custom or scanned faces.
  • Personally I think the pace is improved. No complaints at all here.
  • Shooting is so much better. And gotta give props to EA for totally nerfing Timed Finishing. I hit greens regularly last year but don't think I've hit one yet.
Don't get me wrong - there's negatives too. But I'm feeling ever so slightly better about it after my first play session yesterday. And I'm now pretty interested in seeing how this plays online. I still feel more at home with PES's more grounded and realistic gameplay, but FIFA's total package is too good to ignore. And if FUT is that much better like people are saying, with all that FUT content I could see myself getting into online. Especially if CM is as bad as people are saying.
 
mfmaxpower said:
Well shit, maybe my opinion's changing. I started a Champions League tournament on Ultimate difficulty, choosing to play as Dortmund, Liverpool, and Chelsea, and... I didn't hate it. Kinda started to grow on me actually. I lost every game - dunno if that's because it's actually more difficult this year, or just because I'm clumsy from playing so much PES and forgetting the controls. Best thing about the losses were I could see how the goals scored against me were due to my bad defending.

Right now, I only have two major gripes: just how far back your defenders stay off the attackers, regardless of tactics, and how still AI defenders struggle with tracking runs from midfield, and how they just generally suck at getting and staying goal side of their marks. The first bit is really pissing me off though - even when using the team press quick tactic, your midfielders and forwards... just do nothing. It means that even mediocre teams don't have an issue moving the ball up the pitch. Maybe this will improve for me as I improve, but it doesn't seem right.

But I'll give EA credit when it's due - there's a lot of improvements here that I like:

  • Presentation wise, this game is simply awesome. Just doing stuff in the menus makes me cringe at the thought of going back to PES. I thought 19 was very blah in the graphics department but I'm liking 20 more.
    Love that they thickened up the player models a bit. This is the first game in forever that I don't hate the player models.
    So many lovely animations. The variety is superb. I also think they've gotten rid of some of the worst ones, or at least smoothed them out.
    Really like what I've seen from the CPU attacking AI. Elite dribblers will actually skill you.
    1-on-1 defending is pretty good; at least a massive improvement over before. I can see why people would really be enjoying this online. I also like that I'm finding it more difficult to get past the CPU defenders - skills don't feel quite as OP - but maybe it's just me being rusty.
    Non scanned player faces have been nicely improved. This is honestly shocking to me, since FUT is mostly about the stars, who for the most part all have custom or scanned faces.
    Personally I think the pace is improved. No complaints at all here.
    Shooting is so much better. And gotta give props to EA for totally nerfing Timed Finishing. I hit greens regularly last year but don't think I've hit one yet.
Don't get me wrong - there's negatives too. But I'm feeling ever so slightly better about it after my first play session yesterday. And I'm now pretty interested in seeing how this plays online. I still feel more at home with PES's more grounded and realistic gameplay, but FIFA's total package is too good to ignore. And if FUT is that much better like people are saying, with all that FUT content I could see myself getting into online. Especially if CM is as bad as people are saying.
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try these and let me know if it improves, been working on these on fifa 19 for the fifa 20 release
1P/AI
Speed 43/42
Accel 49/48
Shot Error 58/58
Shot Speed 52/52
Pass Error 58/58
Pass Speed 44/44
Injury Freq 66/66
Injury Sev. 18/18
GK Ability 44/44
Marking 40/40
Run Freq 22/22
Height 70/70
Length 28/28
Width 48/48
Fullbacks 54/54
First Touch 58/58
Power Bar Speed 64
 
Apparently the bug that CPU keep playing their reserve squad against you is still in the game:

Look here
And here (watch the match against Liverpool)

I don't know how you can enjoy the CM despite of all other improvements they have made
 
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