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Cesc Fabregas said:
Also, notice the manager avatar section. Exactly the same situation as the Rory McIlroy golf game - pick from 12 heads that look nothing like you and you can't customise. Rubbish.
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Mickey donavan is offended. :p
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I think this is where there God forsaken 50gb discussion stems from. Remember with journey mode there are cinematics which may limit the ability to edit appearances. Heck you are stuck playing as hunter in that mode as well.
 
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In the career mode preview video from FUThead, Tom says "we're not yet at the stage where EA are taking career mode out into the back and shooting in the head BUT"...

Seriously, based on this shit, do it.

It's all totally underwhelming and nothing to do with the actual fucking football, other than the youth development stuff.

None of the other new "features" make sense to me. Would you seriously say to your manager "skip training this morning, come and see me, we need you to increase our brand exposure"... Do they think your average club manager is actually tasked with making people in Japan by a shirt with your striker's name on it instead of preparing for the fucking match at the weekend?

In-fact, some of them sound like they'll actively make it WORSE. If I take over at a Championship club and they tell me I HAVE to sign a big-name player... Why? Would that really happen at your average club? I can't just win the league, I have to do it by spending all my money on a player I don't want to buy?

It feels to me like they 100% don't know what to do with career mode, and on top of that, it has 10% of the manpower.

It's as if they've actually sat down and said, "how can we make it LOOK like we've done some actual work on it and/or give a shit about it".

I'm genuinely relieved that PES keeps making good progress (it even has a career mode feature FIFA could desperately use, and that it ALREADY FUCKING HAS in Ultimate Team, "team spirit") - but I still prefer FIFA's gameplay. But even then, I can't even set up my team based on the opposition formation or their in-form players, there's no tactical element in the career mode whatsoever...

Bitterly, bitterly disappointed.

The having to choose an old beardless man to represent me as a manager, and shake hands with my twin occasionally, is ridiculous for a game that wants to be authentic off and on the pitch... I mean, genuinely laughable. I can see the cup final cut scene now - "there's the dejected, losing manager" (you, sad face), "and there's the overjoyed champion" (you, happy face)...

But I saw the lack of personalisation coming because of the move to Frostbite and the fact that it's been the same situation for every other EA Sports game that has switched over to it.

The lack of moving forward in terms of training, player interaction and everything else, though... Like a moron, I didn't expect that. I don't even know why they're doing a career mode beta test - it clearly wasn't a priority this year, so what do they care if a tester tells them it's shit?
 
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Placebo said:
Maybe you're right but that article doesn't say anything either way...
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Seems like we are going to have scripted transfer again this year. Again this year, all the improvement is on FUT. I have no reason to buy FIFA 17.
 
Chris Davies said:
In the career mode preview video from FUThead, Tom says "we're not yet at the stage where EA are taking career mode out into the back and shooting in the head BUT"...

Seriously, based on this shit, do it.

It's all totally underwhelming and nothing to do with the actual fucking football, other than the youth development stuff.

None of the other new "features" make sense to me. Would you seriously say to your manager "skip training this morning, come and see me, we need you to increase our brand exposure"... Do they think your average club manager is actually tasked with making people in Japan by a shirt with your striker's name on it instead of preparing for the fucking match at the weekend?

In-fact, some of them sound like they'll actively make it WORSE. If I take over at a Championship club and they tell me I HAVE to sign a big-name player... Why? Would that really happen at your average club? I can't just win the league, I have to do it by spending all my money on a player I don't want to buy?

It feels to me like they 100% don't know what to do with career mode, and on top of that, it has 10% of the manpower.

It's as if they've actually sat down and said, "how can we make it LOOK like we've done some actual work on it and/or give a shit about it".

I'm genuinely relieved that PES keeps making good progress (it even has a career mode feature FIFA could desperately use, and that it ALREADY FUCKING HAS in Ultimate Team, "team spirit") - but I still prefer FIFA's gameplay. But even then, I can't even set up my team based on the opposition formation or their in-form players, there's no tactical element in the career mode whatsoever...

Bitterly, bitterly disappointed.

The having to choose an old beardless man to represent me as a manager, and shake hands with my twin occasionally, is ridiculous for a game that wants to be authentic off and on the pitch... I mean, genuinely laughable. I can see the cup final cut scene now - "there's the dejected, losing manager" (you, sad face), "and there's the overjoyed champion" (you, happy face)...

But I saw the lack of personalisation coming because of the move to Frostbite and the fact that it's been the same situation for every other EA Sports game that has switched over to it.

The lack of moving forward in terms of training, player interaction and everything else, though... Like a moron, I didn't expect that. I don't even know why they're doing a career mode beta test - it clearly wasn't a priority this year, so what do they care if a tester tells them it's shit?
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Could not agree more. Also disappointing on the lack of work on the AI. I hate that playing Chelsea or Barca isn't so scary in CM. Messi isn't gonna try to run at me.

This would have been so much better if they had given us something like scouting reports of opposition, team chemistry as you get transfers and players start gelling and just more in depth tactical options that matter. They do those, and I'd be pumped for this.
 
One day PES, or FIFA will offer me the ability to play a co-op career mode with a friend online. Honestly, I've wanted this feature for years. I'd love to talk about formations, lineups, transfers, and work my way up from the lower divisions with a friend on Superstar/full manual. Oh well.
 
Chris Davies said:
In the career mode preview video from FUThead, Tom says "we're not yet at the stage where EA are taking career mode out into the back and shooting in the head BUT"...

Seriously, based on this shit, do it.

It's all totally underwhelming and nothing to do with the actual fucking football, other than the youth development stuff.

None of the other new "features" make sense to me. Would you seriously say to your manager "skip training this morning, come and see me, we need you to increase our brand exposure"... Do they think your average club manager is actually tasked with making people in Japan by a shirt with your striker's name on it instead of preparing for the fucking match at the weekend?

In-fact, some of them sound like they'll actively make it WORSE. If I take over at a Championship club and they tell me I HAVE to sign a big-name player... Why? Would that really happen at your average club? I can't just win the league, I have to do it by spending all my money on a player I don't want to buy?

It feels to me like they 100% don't know what to do with career mode, and on top of that, it has 10% of the manpower.

It's as if they've actually sat down and said, "how can we make it LOOK like we've done some actual work on it and/or give a shit about it".

I'm genuinely relieved that PES keeps making good progress (it even has a career mode feature FIFA could desperately use, and that it ALREADY FUCKING HAS in Ultimate Team, "team spirit") - but I still prefer FIFA's gameplay. But even then, I can't even set up my team based on the opposition formation or their in-form players, there's no tactical element in the career mode whatsoever...

Bitterly, bitterly disappointed.

The having to choose an old beardless man to represent me as a manager, and shake hands with my twin occasionally, is ridiculous for a game that wants to be authentic off and on the pitch... I mean, genuinely laughable. I can see the cup final cut scene now - "there's the dejected, losing manager" (you, sad face), "and there's the overjoyed champion" (you, happy face)...

But I saw the lack of personalisation coming because of the move to Frostbite and the fact that it's been the same situation for every other EA Sports game that has switched over to it.

The lack of moving forward in terms of training, player interaction and everything else, though... Like a moron, I didn't expect that. I don't even know why they're doing a career mode beta test - it clearly wasn't a priority this year, so what do they care if a tester tells them it's shit?
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Bravo mate :MAD: You got out everything I wanted to say. I was actually pretty shocked to read what was new in CM this year. I can't believe we have to wait an ENTIRE year for something suitable. This is what disappoints me the most :CRY:
 
Chris Davies said:
In the career mode preview video from FUThead, Tom says "we're not yet at the stage where EA are taking career mode out into the back and shooting in the head BUT"...

Seriously, based on this shit, do it.

It's all totally underwhelming and nothing to do with the actual fucking football, other than the youth development stuff.

None of the other new "features" make sense to me. Would you seriously say to your manager "skip training this morning, come and see me, we need you to increase our brand exposure"... Do they think your average club manager is actually tasked with making people in Japan by a shirt with your striker's name on it instead of preparing for the fucking match at the weekend?

In-fact, some of them sound like they'll actively make it WORSE. If I take over at a Championship club and they tell me I HAVE to sign a big-name player... Why? Would that really happen at your average club? I can't just win the league, I have to do it by spending all my money on a player I don't want to buy?

It feels to me like they 100% don't know what to do with career mode, and on top of that, it has 10% of the manpower.

It's as if they've actually sat down and said, "how can we make it LOOK like we've done some actual work on it and/or give a shit about it".

I'm genuinely relieved that PES keeps making good progress (it even has a career mode feature FIFA could desperately use, and that it ALREADY FUCKING HAS in Ultimate Team, "team spirit") - but I still prefer FIFA's gameplay. But even then, I can't even set up my team based on the opposition formation or their in-form players, there's no tactical element in the career mode whatsoever...

Bitterly, bitterly disappointed.

The having to choose an old beardless man to represent me as a manager, and shake hands with my twin occasionally, is ridiculous for a game that wants to be authentic off and on the pitch... I mean, genuinely laughable. I can see the cup final cut scene now - "there's the dejected, losing manager" (you, sad face), "and there's the overjoyed champion" (you, happy face)...

But I saw the lack of personalisation coming because of the move to Frostbite and the fact that it's been the same situation for every other EA Sports game that has switched over to it.

The lack of moving forward in terms of training, player interaction and everything else, though... Like a moron, I didn't expect that. I don't even know why they're doing a career mode beta test - it clearly wasn't a priority this year, so what do they care if a tester tells them it's shit?
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Like a couple of others have said, good post and well said. Just can't believe the substandard effort and additions to the mode.

This has to be the highest grossing sports game in the world due to the world wide appeal of the sport. I am pretty certain I read that they have been working on Frostbite behind the scenes for the past couple of years. With the money they make, they must have a large development team, so why aren't they putting an effort into franchise mode?

I guess the NBA2K dev team is just that much better then other sports game developers as far as franchise mode goes. While I like the sport, I do not like it as much as others, but I probably need to suck it up and start devoting time into a game that caters to franchise mode players like me.

If for some reason they added depth to the tactical part of FIFA 17, perhaps this could be overlooked, but based on track record, I doubt they changed that either. Really disappointing effort overall.
 
like i said modern gaming has shat all over its heritage and everything is online geared now. I can think of nothing worse than playing some little twat who has more time than me to get good at the game.

I would much rather play AI and enjoy the highs and lows of a season.

FUT BULLSHIT
 
cowden_harley said:
like i said modern gaming has shat all over its heritage and everything is online geared now. I can think of nothing worse than playing some little twat who has more time than me to get good at the game.

I would much rather play AI and enjoy the highs and lows of a season.

FUT BULLSHIT
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Agree x 100

The little twat will not get better though he finds the exploits first
 
P34SEMM said:
I'd never play that mode.
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I think I would, if I could be a younger version of myself and not be forced to be someone who I feel no connection to. You may as well force me to be a Bulgarian league team when I play online or something. Wouldn't know the team, wouldn't care about them.

It's the year of Frostbite-related cutbacks, and I'm pretty gutted. I have to choose a manager that looks fuck-all like me (and considering that we've seen 6 of the 11 faces on offer, and they're all old white men, if you happen to be any other race, you're going to have an even slimmer choice). I have to be a fake player I don't want to be. The AI still plays the same (according to Tom from FUThead who did that Career Mode preview).

This is the most disappointed I've been pre-release that I can remember, and last year I was disappointed enough - think about it...

As a career-mode player, in the last two years, the new features have been:

  • Pre-season friendlies (seriously, who cares)
  • Train five players a week (in drills that were boring after the first week)
  • Board-defined objectives (that make little sense and can get you fired even if you win the league, according to Tom)
  • The J-League (the majority will never play as a team outside of their favourite league so, see point one)
  • Bugs
In the career modes, I don't have to change my formation, my tactics or my line-up to approach any game - and in-fact, I can't set up to counter the opposition even if I wanted to, because the game gives you no information about your opponent. Just a blank half of the screen to stare at, while you set up your half.

With the tactical setup PES has this year, EA are playing with fire when it comes to their career mode guys (again, the beta seems like an insult more than anything - "here, test the nothing significant we've added and let us know what you think and we'll continue to ignore you").
 
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Chris Davies said:
I think I would, if I could be a younger version of myself and not be forced to be someone who I feel no connection to. You may as well force me to be a Bulgarian league team when I play online or something. Wouldn't know the team, wouldn't care about them.

It's the year of Frostbite-related cutbacks, and I'm pretty gutted. I have to choose a manager that looks fuck-all like me (and considering that we've seen 6 of the 11 faces on offer, and they're all old white men, if you happen to be any other race, you're going to have an even slimmer choice). I have to be a fake player I don't want to be. The AI still plays the same (according to Tom from FUThead who did that Career Mode preview).

This is the most disappointed I've been pre-release that I can remember, and last year I was disappointed enough - think about it...

As a career-mode player, in the last two years, the new features have been:

  • Pre-season friendlies (seriously, who cares)
  • Train five players a week (in drills that were boring after the first week)
  • Board-defined objectives (that make little sense and can get you fired even if you win the league, according to Tom)
  • The J-League (the majority will never play as a team outside of their favourite league so, see point one)
  • Bugs
In the career modes, I don't have to change my formation, my tactics or my line-up to approach any game - and in-fact, I can't set up to counter the opposition even if I wanted to, because the game gives you no information about your opponent. Just a blank half of the screen to stare at, while you set up your half.

With the tactical setup PES has this year, EA are playing with fire when it comes to their career mode guys (again, the beta seems like an insult more than anything - "here, test the nothing significant we've added and let us know what you think and we'll continue to ignore you").
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When I read that FIFA were going down the 2k road with the career mode,didn't read it well enough,thought they meant all their career modes,I was excited,cause their My player is amazing (talking about player career here) but after reading up,it's not going to be that great.
When it come to MC,yes needs to be revamped,and when it comes to PC,needs to be more than revamped,needs to be,first of all,realistic.

I play/played PC on both 15-16 for a few season before switching to MC,but had a hard time completing my 3-5 seasons on Player career,after the first season it's such a bore.
Hope they get both career modes a proper revamp,with realism (contracts,red cards etc) otherwise,why bother wit it?
 
I enjoyed 15 CM and enjoyed 16 CM as well.
I hardly ever trained 5 players all the time and never really played a preseason tournament and surely there could be more features to add more depth.

On the other hand those CMs never felt dull as I usually pick a weak team from the 2nd division and build it up (buying players, scouting youth etc).
Fouls are there and players get injured which forces me to take decisions on my team.

If 17 will have these things in it, I guess I'm fine with it.

Unless the gameplay has changed in a negative way which I doubt.
Still curious and waiting for the demo.
 
Chris Davies said:
I think I would, if I could be a younger version of myself and not be forced to be someone who I feel no connection to. You may as well force me to be a Bulgarian league team when I play online or something. Wouldn't know the team, wouldn't care about them.

It's the year of Frostbite-related cutbacks, and I'm pretty gutted. I have to choose a manager that looks fuck-all like me (and considering that we've seen 6 of the 11 faces on offer, and they're all old white men, if you happen to be any other race, you're going to have an even slimmer choice). I have to be a fake player I don't want to be. The AI still plays the same (according to Tom from FUThead who did that Career Mode preview).

This is the most disappointed I've been pre-release that I can remember, and last year I was disappointed enough - think about it...

As a career-mode player, in the last two years, the new features have been:

  • Pre-season friendlies (seriously, who cares)
  • Train five players a week (in drills that were boring after the first week)
  • Board-defined objectives (that make little sense and can get you fired even if you win the league, according to Tom)
  • The J-League (the majority will never play as a team outside of their favourite league so, see point one)
  • Bugs
In the career modes, I don't have to change my formation, my tactics or my line-up to approach any game - and in-fact, I can't set up to counter the opposition even if I wanted to, because the game gives you no information about your opponent. Just a blank half of the screen to stare at, while you set up your half.

With the tactical setup PES has this year, EA are playing with fire when it comes to their career mode guys (again, the beta seems like an insult more than anything - "here, test the nothing significant we've added and let us know what you think and we'll continue to ignore you").
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Aye, the game should be renamed to FUT 17 at this point. On the official forums there are 28.5k discussions for FUT, and only 3.4k for General Discussion. There's 908 for Career, and only 1.5k for Pro Clubs. The FIFA subreddit might as well be a FUT subreddit as that's all anyone ever talks about. Now, I understand that since it has a fluctuating market it's going to spark a lot of discussion, but still. I remember looking at the subreddit's list of improvements they want to see in FIFA 17 and almost all of them were FUT related. Very few of them were focusing on the actual gameplay.

I'm clearly not the target audience. Do you want a lot of YouTube views? Talk loudly in an obnoxious manner while opening card packs and you're golden. Make sure to include a clickbait title such as, "INFORM MESSI????!!!!" I also find it amusing how amazing these people think they are at FIFA when they're playing the most "arcadey" gamemode imaginable, with world class players and fully assisted controls. The whole scene is just... not for me. Career mode will just never get the kind of love it deserves unless they somehow manage to monetize it, and it blows up in a big way (which would be dreadful for the consumer). I usually spend a great deal of time with CM, but the AI in 16 is just abysmal.
 
Placebo said:
Well the fact youth is one of the criteria, hopefully there's ways to invest more time in that, would be awesome to be able to play the U21 development team matches or something along those lines. Imagine if there could be a meld of the two types of CM, manager mode with one of the youth players being your "be a pro" so you play as just that player in the dev matches and grow him to be good enough for the first team...
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That could work but I sincerely hope they have fixed weird heights and positions, no traits, no multiple positions, ridiculous generic faces and grey silhouettes for minifaces.
 
Placebo said:
That was fixed in the last Fifa wasn't it? At least for generated players.
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Unfortunately it still looks pretty unconvincing. IMO they should use real pictures of young football players from various academies or even random high school students. Kids would love to be in FIFA and randomly generated youth players would have a "real" face.



https://www.easports.com/fifa/news/...ocial&cid=11535&ts=1471021347603&sf48059252=1

http://news.futhead.com/posts/fifa-17/34381-fifa-17-career-mode-preview

After re-reading this career changes for 17, I am pretty disappointed;
basically they have added manager avatars and updated goals. Everything else is the same.
 
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