Pes in the other side is a dark dark shadow of its former self...the Pes series died after We10 and if someone cant see that is a fanboy or he didnt followed the evolution in the series so he can tell the difference with the next gen installments...Sometimes we must let go...This is coming from me that i grew with Iss and Pes and that time i was laughing at fifa games...
Sorry but you sound quite ignorant and seem like a know it all! You seem more like sheep to be honest just repeating what the general crowd says. So I'm a deluded fanboy because i don't think PES 2011 is crap? or that the series fell after PES 6? I least i know PES 2011 inside out and know it's strengths and flaws unlike you who seem to had played it a few times and thought meh.
I mean for me PES fell away after PES 5
and even though PES 5 was a great game, the downfall was always set to happen, because from PES 3 onwards Konami, year upon year showed a increasing lack of ambition towards PES. Another huge factor i think was the highly stuck up, idiot fans who well, still exist at the moment even now who regurgitated that PES was perfect. PES is the ultimate simulation and nothing comes close. So Konami never felt the need to evolve.
Over the PS2 years with FIFA and other titles being no competition. PES started to become the commercial choice. PES 6 was the peak of this. I think this was the only game in which has outsold fifa, ever! Hence why so many go on about it! It was the start of the downfall, the start of PES recycling the old game, making it more arcadey to appeal to these new shallow fans.
Its not a coincidence that all the people i know in my age (30 -35),ftiends from real life,mates or net friends that loved Pes CANNOT touch it any MORE...Some of them converted 2 fifa and some dont wanna play any other footie but neither pes too.
As i was saying before. It shows just how ignorant you are, your saying PES 2011 is a shadow of the older games because people you know are saying it's shit because of the past failures of PES 2008 etc.. How many of them have given PES 2011 a real go? If you haven't, why talk about it? You just make yourself look silly.
80 % of the people that high praise Pes these next gen years are the people that didnt grew up playin Pes...
More ignorance. your trying to say that because i like PES 2011 i like all of PES 2008-2011! I personally have always brought pretty much every football title i could get my hands on. ISS pro back in 1997 when my cousin introduced me to it and FIFA 95 back in 1995!
I grew up playing all of them. I know all the games very well thank you.
The only football game recently i've given high praise to is PES 2011. Not just that, many here have praised PES 2011 after coming back and playing it since being disappointed by PES 2008 and fully concentrated on FIFA. PES 2011 has it has flaws, but the game does a lot of this so well which keeps it fresh. I liked PES 2010 but your right it was broken, Massively broken and no as good as the PS2 games.
Another factor is these guys who don't play the game anymore. These guys considering their age maybe would had stopped gaming although or don't have time to get into PES anymore, this isn't surprising since PES commercially these days is shocking! Especially this year. Little money put into a marketing campaign and despite revolutionizing the gameplay and changing so much in PES 2011 there was NO in-depth guide easing people in.
There's no point generalizing like you have with this conservative argument. Best not to talk so surely about things you don't fully understand especially regarding PES 2011.
........And you cant even get his name right.
