FIFA 12 Discussion Thread

Dryzer said:
This is the best football game i've ever played.

If the computer shot a lot more from distance it would be almost perfect, after slider adjustment.

I just love the midfield battles, the cpu defending, the mastering of my own defence, the collisions and injuries and all the little touches like players ducking under the ball, i even saw Saurez making a last ditch slde in attempt at a ball across teh box yesterday.

The game is truly outstanding, and thats from someone who was incensed at the demo.

The individuality is all there to see too. I played Portsmouth with Liverpool last night and lost, in the main because Erik Huseklepp was up against Carragher and was too pacey for him. When i played them again i switched Agger to mark him and won 1-0. Superb game.
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What slider settings do you use mate? I can't quite find a balance, every time I think I have it, I find a tiny issue then tweak them again. My games feel a bit too much like counter attack fests ATM, and if I tighten it up with marking and line height sliders it turns into FIFA09 where people are constantly running in behind the defence.

Love the game but can't quite get those settings just right.
 
LTFC said:
What slider settings do you use mate? I can't quite find a balance, every time I think I have it, I find a tiny issue then tweak them again. My games feel a bit too much like counter attack fests ATM, and if I tighten it up with marking and line height sliders it turns into FIFA09 where people are constantly running in behind the defence.

Love the game but can't quite get those settings just right.
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Im like that at times. Ill post my settings later.

But you will find your own tiredness and alertness is part of the problem.

When i first fired it up yesterday (after being on holiday for two weeks) it felt really slow and clunky, as i had the speed setting on 45-46. The games where really slow and difficult, enjoyable but a bit of a slog. SO i tweaked the speed up a little bit and enjoyed it on 49-50 all afternoon. I put it on late last night and because i was knackered, it felt like it was being played at a 100mph! So i retweaked the speed down to 48.

I guess its just to too with how alert you feel because to play this game properly you need to be switched on otherwise you get punished. the new defensive system wont allow you to play casually and the the cpu a.i wont allow it either (unless you knock the difficulty down)

So i dont think theres a definitive set of values. I think you will always be slightly tweaking them depending on mood and how you feel in general.

I dont think this is a bad thing and i think its why its been easily implemented on the fly.
 
Yeah I'd agree with that. Sometimes the game feels too slow, with passes too bobbly and floaty, other times it plays too fast. I think the nationality of the teams you're playing with/against has an effect too. I'm oticing that Spanish games are a lot slower than English ones, which is a nice touch. Playing as Barcelona v Ahtletico Madrid in a friendly, both teams were really taking their time. Arsenal v Bolton however was a lot more sprint orientated, rushing to attack, and faster paced. Like that a lot, but can make you reach for the sliders.

The defending in this is the best ever in a football game IMO. I was all over the place but after changing back to my old tele cam the angles etc are all easier to judge, making defending a joy. I keep falling into the trap of sprinting in defence and attack, but when I remember to lay off sprint you see so much more open up. The extra space available now is awesome, as is the precision dribble. I almost exclusively use it for holding up the ball to wait for support, turning, then picking a pass. It's awesome.

One thing I can't do at the moment is cross the ball. Don't know why. It's much different to previous games. Either a cross goes behind the goal or off in some random direction at the edge of the box a lot of the time.

Having had a break from it and playing PES over the last few days, I've actually reduced the passing error on both teams so the ball zips along a lot more smoothly, seems to have improved the flow of the game a bit more.
 
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Actually does anyone have any tips for crossing? If I try it in a practice match you seeminly only need to hold R1/LT and long pass. Seems to default make the ball go in around the penalty spot area, even on semi for crossing.

Try that in a game however and it goes all over the place.
 
LTFC said:
Actually does anyone have any tips for crossing? If I try it in a practice match you seeminly only need to hold R1/LT and long pass. Seems to default make the ball go in around the penalty spot area, even on semi for crossing.

Try that in a game however and it goes all over the place.
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Crossing has changed somewhat, its less automatic. But maybe its because i got pass error up? dunno. I find double tap only produces a cross for the nearest player and usually quite weak. triple cross works, and single cross works. I tend to use single cross because i have more control over it especially with l1 for early cross.

Using r2 is tricky but a good way for getting in a hard fast but flatter cross.

Ive also noticed that it depends on a few factors, such as balance, right foot etc. With kuyt for example on his left he cant do anything, Downing is more balanced. When running full pelt with Johnson and being shoulder challenged his cross is less accurate f accurate at all, but with time and space i can deliver in better quality.
 
I'll give it a go in training mode I think, so many attacks go astray because I keep crossing the ball behind the goal. Frustrating.

On the plus side, I've discovered that holding the slow dribble button (L2 - not the precision dribble) to shoot yields some interesting results. If in the right place you place readers, but if it's behind you or to the side you nearly always volley or even bycicle kick. Everyone probably knows that already but I didn't. It's produced some really organic looking shots where your player kind of volleys into the ground, while himself falling to the ground after the ball has bounced up and to the side. Loving the shooting!

Also learnt how to blitz Roberto Carlos style free kicks from miles out, with the right player of course. There's a lot more to learn than ever in this :)
 
Yeah I have to admit my crossing is really poor in this Fifa, which is good because it was too overpowered on semi previously, now I even get more tempted to switch my wingers so that they can cut inside to shoot with their strong foot rather than crossing and failing to find anyone :)
 
I feel every goal I score from outside the box goes in the bottom corner no matter how long I press the button. How do you guys place them high with power as well?
 
Placebo said:
Yeah I have to admit my crossing is really poor in this Fifa, which is good because it was too overpowered on semi previously, now I even get more tempted to switch my wingers so that they can cut inside to shoot with their strong foot rather than crossing and failing to find anyone :)
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Totally did that as well, right after I did I scored an amazing goal, working through four defenders with little flicks and turns to get into the box and a sliding shot to get past the keeper.
I don't try and hit many first time crosses anymore either, now I sometimes go at the defender and cut back away 'out' and whip in a cross on the players preferred foot (left foot on RM side, etc). Seems to free up strikers more if I time it right and they don't have to try and jump over someone.
 
Yeah when I play offline against friends we score some beautiful goals from crosses. Really nice variety. But trying to create a goal from a cross against the AI is quite hard this year.

Is anyone else quite annoyed with the goal celebrations this year? I love the feeling of scoring a goal on FIFA 12. It's enjoyable now and rewarding. However, for all the good polish FIFA has and all the celebrations that players can do, why on earth do they make your team mates grab you and 5 players jump up and down on the spot?????

I much prefer the PES way and it actually looks more like a real game. Why can't FIFA take away that stupid team mate grab! They catch you before you can run away lol.
 
CalcioCalabrese said:
Yeah when I play offline against friends we score some beautiful goals from crosses. Really nice variety. But trying to create a goal from a cross against the AI is quite hard this year.

Is anyone else quite annoyed with the goal celebrations this year? I love the feeling of scoring a goal on FIFA 12. It's enjoyable now and rewarding. However, for all the good polish FIFA has and all the celebrations that players can do, why on earth do they make your team mates grab you and 5 players jump up and down on the spot?????

I much prefer the PES way and it actually looks more like a real game. Why can't FIFA take away that stupid team mate grab! They catch you before you can run away lol.
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huh you make your own celebrations different button combos
 
Loving Fifa 2012

Controversial but simple equation fifa 2012 + sliders = we9le/pes5

Playing on world class i got players making positional runs, through-balls available and the ability to run past players with the ball if the timing and their stats and stamina allow it.

Its not too easy either currently third in the championship with Forest and only 5 games left 8 points behind second destined for the dreaded playoffs.

Enjoyed pes but the scripted shooting destroyed it for me if your running diagonal and you shoot without moving the controller why would the ball fly in the other corner of the goal.
 
pes4lyfe said:
huh you make your own celebrations different button combos
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That's my point - 90% of the time when you score, the other players on your team grab you and you can't run off and celebrate. And they just jump on the spot waving their hands the same way. Why?? they should run around and celebrate properly.
 
embraceuk1 said:
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Enjoyed pes but the scripted shooting destroyed it for me if your running diagonal and you shoot without moving the controller why would the ball fly in the other corner of the goal.
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With all due respect - you have to aim after the power bar is up and hold the aim until contact is made. I know what you're saying about holding the direction one way and pressing shoot. Sounds like it should stay in the same line of direction but often won't. If you do what I said (whether you think you're supposed to or not is a separate issue) the ball will go to the correct side.

It's similar with FIFA's assisted settings. They will make some assumptions for your aim if you haven't aimed after the power button has been pressed. Trust me - I've had plenty of times where I didn't aim properly and then yelled at the game for being broken on assisted. It wasn't the game - it was me not following the system properly.
 
CalcioCalabrese said:
That's my point - 90% of the time when you score, the other players on your team grab you and you can't run off and celebrate. And they just jump on the spot waving their hands the same way. Why?? they should run around and celebrate properly.
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ah for me that happens maybe only 10-20% off the time.

I dont know why 90% for you.

but yeh you can do your own celebrations except when that happens.

I dont know if there is a slider to make it happen less lmao
 
pes4lyfe said:
if so please tell me your sliders to make this equation

cheers
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I prefer a faster game like WE9LE so.

User/CPU Game Customization
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Sprint Speed - 60/55
Acceleration - 60/55
Shot Error - 50/50
Pass Error - 50/60
Shot Speed - 55/50
Pass Speed - 60/50
Injury Frequency - 80/80
Injury Severity - 60/60
Goalkeeper Ability - 50/50
Positioning:Marking - 55/50
Positioning:Run Frequency - 100/50
Positioning: Line Height - 50/50
Positioning: Line Length - 60/50
Positioning: Line Width - 60/50
Positioning: Fullback Positioning - 60/50
Power Bar - 50/50

Still challenging will only make the playoffs on world class as forest in the championship
 
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embraceuk1 said:
I prefer a faster game like WE9LE so.

User/CPU Game Customization
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Sprint Speed - 60/55
Acceleration - 60/55
Shot Error - 50/50
Pass Error - 50/60
Shot Speed - 55/50
Pass Speed - 60/50
Injury Frequency - 80/80
Injury Severity - 60/60
Goalkeeper Ability - 50/50
Positioning:Marking - 55/50
Positioning:Run Frequency - 100/50
Positioning: Line Height - 50/50
Positioning: Line Length - 60/50
Positioning: Line Width - 60/50
Positioning: Fullback Positioning - 60/50
Power Bar - 50/50

Still challenging will only make the playoffs on world class as forest in the championship
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ok i assume left/right=user/cpu

i will try on world class+normal speed?
 
embraceuk1 said:
Yes normal speed
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like i said in other thread I quite like the fast game with your sliders (increased speed+acceleration). Some prefer to make it slower but for me I think like old pes fast end to end is more fun than slow passing about.

however shooting at 55 was OTT. every shot like a rocket into corner from even low stat players.

However, I also liked in old Pes how you could score 25-40 yarders for fun BUT usually only with good players.

I think its a more arcadey feel to early to judge but based on 1 game Id say its more fun. I think perhaps the search for realism is whats killing the fun in soccer games. MOst admit as OTT as they were I did enjoy my 2 screamer goals and even saved them lol.
 
CalcioCalabrese said:
That's my point - 90% of the time when you score, the other players on your team grab you and you can't run off and celebrate. And they just jump on the spot waving their hands the same way. Why?? they should run around and celebrate properly.
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If you hold down R2/RT you'll avoid your teammate grabbing you/pulling you down, looks quite funny as well.
 
Placebo said:
Yeah I have to admit my crossing is really poor in this Fifa, which is good because it was too overpowered on semi previously, now I even get more tempted to switch my wingers so that they can cut inside to shoot with their strong foot rather than crossing and failing to find anyone :)
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Im beeing very successfully with crosses, but they beauty of it in this FIFA12 is that we actually need stats for that to happen, in 11 u could cross with any player, any foot and ud also get a perfect curl cross and ud also get perfect headers from any 55-60 heading acc. midget twat...

Now in 12, ull only succed if u have the right players(atributes) for the right roles, i play a fantasy league with some friends and i just got Dzsudzsak (88 crossing) at my right wing curling perfect crosses to Pazzini(91 head acc. / 95 jumping) this results in an absolute deadly play.. so far in 5 matches ive scored 7 goals with Pazzo, 5 coming from crossing... this guy is a beast on aerial plays, evan at only 180cm.

Im really enjoying it, feels like the old WE4 times playing with Holland and gettting Overmars crosses to Kluivert!
 
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