Fifa 11 Xbox 360/PS3

Those videos speak for themselves. How come everyone in the game has perfect first touch? Where did they see that? Not at EAC, of course...
 
Lami that is my mastercard moment for today, thanks pal. Just like most refs " twats who never played the game " who do they speak to about player movement? What animations do they watch? What bloody football matches do they watch? I mean ffs!
 
drekkard said:
Those videos speak for themselves. How come everyone in the game has perfect first touch? Where did they see that? Not at EAC, of course...
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It's more the magnetic, ball zips to players feet without factoring trajectory of pass that's the problem.

If everyone had a perfect first touch but they have a contextual and free system where the ball is TRULY separate from the player like it was back in 08 that would be fine, because you could patch the game to sort it out! BUT the system now seems to not take into account the passes trajectory at ALL. Just magnetically sticks to the player, no to mention the lazer like 1-90 degree turns to get the ball which dosen't take into account players body weight!

It's all explained here:
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showpost.php?p=2056340&postcount=5456
@ Romanogili, i can make a video of the firs touches if you want :) explaining what i want fixed :) I have Sony Vegas 9 :)
 
Tbh it doesn't take a football genius to try first touch for himself and realize it's not that easy. Few things come in to play like focus, technique, etc.

With all the amazing equipment they have for mo-capping and the game engine I thought it's a piece of cake for them to give us the "football" game most of us want.

They can cater for the casuals all they want but at least not ignore us as well and give us that in sliders. Even release a standalone for the hardcores on PSN/Live or whatever.
 
Rodelero said:
I always knew when I created started making the petition that if it went well and it's gone better than I expected with the community, that it would end up with EA either making utter twats of themselves or doing something. It's got to the point where a lot of people will be seriously upset if EA neglect this. It's not a huge financial threat, but I really don't think they want to lose what they've built over the last few years - with replies like that from Rutter you wonder if they realise what they stand to lose.

Look at it this way - we're going to find out EA's intentions, one way or another. What I really want to know is what Gary thinks - if he even know sthat the petition exists (I no longer know of any way to contact him post-forum change.)
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I think we forget to put things in perspective: by last Christmas, FIFA 10 had sold about 10 million copies. Ten MILLION! I'm pretty sure I can guess what EA's intentions are!

We are merely drops in a bucket, and I haven't seen any indication whatsoever that EA's core audience, the casuals, will be less enthused for 11.

So when you say "a lot" of people will be upset, and they don't want to lose "what they've built over the last few years," I'm not sure we're using the proper perspective here. "A lot" of people to us is what? Even if you took the big petition thread and multiplied the signatures by 10,000, it'd still be only a few drops in a big bucket.

And talking about what they've built over the last few years and what they stand to lose, I'd suggest that they have come close to perfecting their formula, evidenced by outstanding sales figures, and from a business stand point they'd be stupid to deviate from that formula. I'm fairly certain that pandering to the hardcore fans is NOT part of that formula.

I'm not saying we should give up the good fight, but let's also not be so quick to dismiss EA, as if what they're doing is wrong or not in their best interests, because in the end they're a business and Konami would do the same thing if their roles were reversed - if Konami could gain a few million casual fans at the expense of a few thousand hardcore fans, I'm sure they wouldn't blink an eye.

romagnoli said:
PES is just an OF away from not having real teams. I personally don't really see the problem with fantasy leagues either if the fundamental experience with those fantasy leagues is a lot more complete and in depth. Different strokes for different folks though.
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Yeah, I don't really get it either. I think it's a mental thing and once you give ML and PES a proper try, you forget about the lack of licenses (if you don't have an option file) and other shortcomings. ML more than makes up for it with such a deeper experience.
 
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lons_pl said:
I my God:LMAO: Football expert David Rutter make profesional game FIFA.
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That's not a problem for me tbh. If he can lead the team into making the right decisions then that's fine with me, but when it's him all over the Fifa videos explaining what Pro Passing is you'd think he must know what he's on about. Then I watch that and go "uh... ok".
 
I always thought they based their knowledge of football on watching it rather than playing it. There's next to no reason why any body with a half decent ability at football would forget such basic implementations like EA do.
 
Love the romaliy one, he looks so surprised to see the ball fly of to his left and then starts running after it like a 5 year old. As for Rutter.....the outfit says enough. :D
 
Lami said:
That's not a problem for me tbh. If he can lead the team into making the right decisions then that's fine with me, but when it's him all over the Fifa videos explaining what Pro Passing is you'd think he must know what he's on about. Then I watch that and go "uh... ok".
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I'm not really serious but it's funny when guy who said a lot time about football and looks like expert of football has big problem to kick a ball.
 
How long is the Fifa demo? Hopefully longer than 2 min half's, what do they expect us to do in a 4 min game!
Id rather have 10 min game with a 4 min vid like PES, than a 4 min game with no vid..
 
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Gaming website Giantbomb.com has a FIFA 11 preview in their online magazine (found it through a link on the official forums). Here's an excerpt on PP:

An accurate ninety degree pass at a bajillion kilometers per hour is not something that's simple to accomplish in real life, and FIFA 11 will be simulating that difficulty. With Ping-Pong passing essentially out the window, the game should play even more realistically than before. I worry that this might make it harder for newcomers...
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I guess he didn't get the memo, or see Rod's video.

Article link: http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion/30/the-luchazine-issue-04-feat-too-much-awesome-stuff-to-list/446473/
 
mfmaxpower said:
Gaming website Giantbomb.com has a FIFA 11 preview in their online magazine (found it through a link on the official forums). Here's an excerpt on PP:



I guess he didn't get the memo, or see Rod's video.

Article link: http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion/30/the-luchazine-issue-04-feat-too-much-awesome-stuff-to-list/446473/
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That's the problem with the gaming industry. I can spend hours making an argument which seems to be convincing the vast, vast majority of the forum, but for all the casuals they basically get Giantbomb paraphrasing an EA Press Release, and what's worse - they'll believe it - and what's worse still is that they'll defend it.
 
I played in midfield and i would love to put rutter and the other nerd in the A&E with the mother of all tackles. Get off the fooking pitch you twats!
 
Then never got picked! I can imagine Rutter crying and saying " one day i'll be boss of all of you and you'll want to play football with me " Big slap for the wimp with the piano legs.
 
perhaps ronaldinho should design the next fifa ....is that what some of you are saying???

alex ferguson was a shit centre forward...does that mean he knows fuck all about football?

just because rutter cannot do keep up's doesn't mean he knows nothing about footie
 
No it doesn't we were having a crack, he's an up himself ponce IMO who bullshits his way through the videos he puts out. And dan whether Sir Alex Ferguson was a shit centre-forward is a matter for debate! These people at EA make alot of money. I want f**king more out of the game for my money. Ok iron boy?:P
 
danhammer said:
perhaps ronaldinho should design the next fifa ....is that what some of you are saying???

alex ferguson was a shit centre forward...does that mean he knows fuck all about football?

just because rutter cannot do keep up's doesn't mean he knows nothing about footie
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Playing football and watching it are different things you know. To learn the fundamentals of the game i'd suggest being half decent at the sport and having knowledge about how to play it and the important things that happen whilst playing it makes a lot of difference.

I'm not saying he knows nothing about it but there are things EA leave out of their game that people here complain about it which could perhaps be explained by a)ignorance b)stubborness or c)not understanding their importance.

Those last points are stupid by the way what with AF being a professional footballer and everything.
 
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Northzzz said:
Playing football and watching it are different things you know. To learn the fundamentals of the game i'd suggest being half decent at the sport and having knowledge about how to play it and the important things that happen whilst playing it makes a lot of difference.

I'm not saying he knows nothing about it but there are things EA leave out of their game that people here complain about it which could perhaps be explained by a)ignorance b)stubborness or c)not understanding their importance.

Those last points are stupid by the way what with AF being a professional footballer and everything.
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ferguson played a few games in scotland, who did mourinho play for?

anyway point i was trying to make is some people are hopeless at football but know the fundamentals and play a good game in their head
 
The point being dan how can he relate to our gripes if he has know idea about playiny the game. I want a sim of a game i've spent over 30 years of playing. These guys haven't crossed the white wash in the competetive way i have, i am willing to spill blood, lose teeth and break bones for my team, and have done. So when we are treated like mugs i don't like that at all pal.
 
danhammer said:
ferguson played a few games in scotland, who did mourinho play for?

anyway point i was trying to make is some people are hopeless at football but know the fundamentals and play a good game in their head
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And I doubt he falls into that category. Also Mourinho might not have played for known teams but at least he did play it. These guys look like they never touched a ball fgs.
 
danhammer said:
ferguson played a few games in scotland, who did mourinho play for?

anyway point i was trying to make is some people are hopeless at football but know the fundamentals and play a good game in their head
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Ferguson played for Rangers and alot more than a few games in his career and was a right dirty git. Rutter is no Mourinho and i've seen Jose kick a ball and mate he's fricking good trust me. But i do understand what you are saying, go back and listen to him talking shite about Arshavin & Sol Campble. The man is just a company geek. rant over:RANT:
 
:LOL: @ this debate. I have got the feeling from Guildford and seeing more and more videos of these EA guys they're all mummies boys who seem up themselves.

But I still think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised at FIFA 11 and im looking forward to clubs after reading all the new additions and fixes theyve done
 
I remember playing against guys/kids like that when I was young. First thing you would do is take the piss and nutmeg them. Second thing you would do when they recieve the ball is go over it and give them a right good ol kick. A third thing never developed as they usually skulked off.....with a limp. Or they got stuck in and gave me a kick and then they were cool. :D
 
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