Fifa 11 Xbox 360/PS3

I wonder if none of these videos are from the PC version. Because it's there to play and the PC producer wrote that he didn't think people realised it was the PC version because you can't see the cases.

I wish these super speedy videos that hasn't the Pro Passing marker is actually the PC version. Probably not, but one can dream.

I think to tell the difference between the PC and PS3 versions at Gamescom is the stadium being used. The PS3 version uses the FIFA Interactive World Cup stadium (the one with shadows covering most of the pitch) which was used in the FIFA10 demo as well. The PC version uses a different stadium.

I believe in this video, footage is combined between the PC and PS3 versions:
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/reportages-videos-jeux/0003/00035450/fifa-11-playstation-3-ps3-gc-2010-jonglages-en-compagnie-de-fifa-11-00000591-hd.htm#containerlienVoirDirectementlaVideo
Plus you can see Xbox controllers used when it is played at the other stadium with no shadows (01:12)
 
Well it was said by the previewers that you had to actaully move towards the ball more - so this must be it. Didn't know it was an assistance setting (and frankly I'm not sure how happy I am that it is).

Oh Romagno. . .

as for the playerswitching - it does indeed. I'll make sure to give this a good try - I tried translating the description from the guys video and it sounded like it would only switch when the ball was in the air towards a cluster of players or something.

Movement assistance sounds interesting... also sounds like another way for me to get schooled by assisted players. So the question is, why would anyone turn the setting off - will I gain anything by turning it off?

Glad to see analog sprint is in but my reaction is a bit "meh" since acceleration and sprinting is so sorry in the WC game, at least when playing against the CPU.

I've been calling for more and more options so hopefully they'll work out well.

(You guys calling for a 3rd football game: EA's motives/goals are definitely suspect but let's not forget about PES 2011, which imo is looking very promising.)
 
the problem is not the fact that every team can play as barcelona, the problem is that even barcelona in real life can't play like people do in the game. I would say that even half start team can pass as goog or even better than barcelona in real life.
 
I'm sick of idiots on Twitter telling rutter how good a job he's doing and to ignore all the moaners. Its comment like that which makes them believe everything is ok when watching videos from gamescon it clearly isn't.

Yeah because bagging rutter is really going to get a game fixed.
 
are there ppl STILL going to buy fifa11 this year? i seriously wanted to give fifa a chance this year, but the recent vids, super speedy, ping pong, plus whatnot, makes me ROFL.

seriously, did the people on here that went for the gameplay test come back with ACTUAL impressions or were you guys bullshitting? from the videos everyone's seen, it's as if the latter is true.
 
Movement assistance sounds interesting... also sounds like another way for me to get schooled by assisted players. So the question is, why would anyone turn the setting off - will I gain anything by turning it off?

It sounds like Movement Assistance offsets the need to "super cancel" a player's running path. For eg. if you thread a throughball to a striker, he'll automatically run forward in a straight line until he crosses the path of the ball. You can cancel this and cut into the path of the ball to receive it early. Another instance where manual movement controls will help is passes potentially leading to an offside (moving away to avoid a call)
 
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Movement assistance sounds interesting... also sounds like another way for me to get schooled by assisted players. So the question is, why would anyone turn the setting off - will I gain anything by turning it off?

Yes, you will - because often players run places which really make no sense and that screws you quite a lot especially defensively. One of the most clear being the situation where a high ball is played to a lone player and your defender charges all the way out to get to him even though it leaves a gaping hole in the line.

But, whether it will balance out? I doubt it. Like most 'manual' things in FIFA, the advantages will be vastly outweighed probably. It will be an interesting indication of whether EA do 'get' manual - because I have a large fear that they've just gone and put in a whole load of new unbalanced options - which was EXACTLY what they shouldn't have done in the first place.

If EA thought I/people like me were 'vehement' last year, this year will be on another level. This whole assisted/semi/manual farce can, and should end with the release of FIFA 12. I don't really care how its done anymore - there are a thousand ways to solve it - the worst thing is to make little steps and backward steps. They need to take a good look at it, and decide on one of two things:

Either, they need to go on a massive balancing spree
or alternatively, they need to work at making a segregatory solution work across all gamemodes

I really don't care which, or which type of which, I just want some kind of serious change.
 
They need to take a good look at it, and decide on one of two things:

Either, they need to go on a massive balancing spree
or alternatively, they need to work at making a segregatory solution work across all gamemodes

I'm for the latter; it's a more elegant solution to an already cumbersome problem. In fact, it can be as simple as letting players choose from either ARCADE / SIMULATION right off the bat (racing simulations like Forza and Gran Turismo have done this for some time as it's the only way to maintain accessibility while not detracting from the simulation aspect of the game). Some game types will to have be unique to Simulation mode (like Career Mode for instance, that shit should SCREAM simulation)
 
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are there ppl STILL going to buy fifa11 this year? i seriously wanted to give fifa a chance this year, but the recent vids, super speedy, ping pong, plus whatnot, makes me ROFL.

seriously, did the people on here that went for the gameplay test come back with ACTUAL impressions or were you guys bullshitting? from the videos everyone's seen, it's as if the latter is true.



Those videos are enough... I can say now I will hardly buy it. I will go back to PES not because of how disappointing is Fifa, but also because Pes2011 is actually looking very good. I really wanted to buy both games and I have the money for it, but no more arcadey/non sense/frustraing game like the two latest Fifa's0.:TTTH:

Fifa 08 was surprisingly good and that's it. It was the TOP game in fifa series for me. The following Fifa games were just competitive on market due to the better technology/online and massive marketing, because gameplay sucked so hard in terms of sim/realism.
 
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No Slow setting for online?

Sorry, I should have been a bit more detailed. Whenever you play ranked matches in FIFA10, the game defaults alot of settings, one being the game speed is set to Normal. So unless you create your own matches and don't go by the quick match feature, the game won't be using the Slow setting.

Also, even if the developers say they didn't speed anything up when compared to FIFA10, FIFA10 and the World Cup game are both too fast. Playing with Serbia makes the game kind of look like a Barcelona match would. Playing with Brazil however is so over the top. I was hoping they would slow FIFA11 down, not keep it the same, and again, judging from the videos it is still possible for the game to look ridiculously fast.
 
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You know, the revisionist history with Fifa 08 has been quite surprising. Yes, there were good elements (ie slow game speed) and it was a great foundation, I really enjoyed the game. But there were soooo many issues and it seems like through nostalgia people discuss FIFA 08 on here as if it were PES 5. The game had loads of issues, chief of which were the fact that over 50% of my goals were near post goals, as keepers couldnt guard this. How can we talk about a game where one of the most essential elements of the game, scoring, was so off? Long shots didnt work, keepers saved almost all shots going for the opposite post, reaction times were quite bad, there was no way to shield someone from taking the ball from you from behind, lob passes were floaty as hell, and there was zero individuality. For me there is no way in hell I would choose to play Fifa 08 over, say , world cup. Absolutely no way.

That being said I've seen some bad things in the videos- too easy 180 passing, perhaps some questionable defense, I originally thought speed but recent videos have me feeling much better - but I don't see anything to result in the level of panic there seems to be at this point. I've definitely seen a bunch of great things, and while I'm sure the game won't be everything I want, I still don't think it's time to go nuts yet. Wait at least until the boys on here report back on the game next week... but I'll put money down that the reports back will be positive.
 
Anyone from here going to the Manchester Gamerbase playtest next Thursday between 12-4pm?

Close. I'm 4-8pm in Manc.

Actually looking forward to seeing how it is after these vids because it looks in a bit of a mess.
 
Same here, I still think that it is a decent game, as long as they have fixed the AI issues and the bugs which ruined the offline experience. The videos though have shown some disappointing aspects such as ping pong passing and the speed being to fast, however it is hard to judge because we are not sure what setting people are playing on.
 
Watching the last couple of video's I am starting to see a lot more passing error creaping into the match. Sadly it's mostly Real-Barca so the passing is still pretty accurate relative to the power/indicator difference but it's to be expected with those teams.

Seeing that has given me some hope, as I expect the other aspects of P+ to be apparent from control and not from video. Also being able to remove the "lock-on" for players and the ball is another good step.

So it's looking slightly better, however EA are really dropping a massive bollock refusing to show a proper balanced match between good players instead of all these shacky pingpong/chipfest matches. One of the last videos had a guy who was trying to chip every time he was through, fortunatly the goalie saved it everytime so that could be another positive.
 
Same here, I still think that it is a decent game, as long as they have fixed the AI issues and the bugs which ruined the offline experience. The videos though have shown some disappointing aspects such as ping pong passing and the speed being to fast, however it is hard to judge because we are not sure what setting people are playing on.

The ones playing on Monday will give us a fair idea but dying to get my hands on it, and i pray there is a feedback form on the day, because if it plays as bad as it looks they have some long nights ahead of them before release day.

The defensive AI being the biggest let down for me so far. That's not something they can patch.
 
Watching the last couple of video's I am starting to see a lot more passing error creaping into the match. Sadly it's mostly Real-Barca so the passing is still pretty accurate relative to the power/indicator difference but it's to be expected with those teams.

Seeing that has given me some hope, as I expect the other aspects of P+ to be apparent from control and not from video. Also being able to remove the "lock-on" for players and the ball is another good step.

So it's looking slightly better, however EA are really dropping a massive bollock refusing to show a proper balanced match between good players instead of all these shacky pingpong/chipfest matches. One of the last videos had a guy who was trying to chip every time he was through, fortunatly the goalie saved it everytime so that could be another positive.

Yeah noticed the keepers were a lot smarter to the chip. EA really need to get a video released and one which does not involve Barcelona, Real Madrid or the usual suspects. Would love to see an official vid with Marseille v Bremen or something similar.
 
If EA thought I/people like me were 'vehement' last year, this year will be on another level. This whole assisted/semi/manual farce can, and should end with the release of FIFA 12.

Honestly, I'm not sure I'll make it to 12. During some time off in the past few days I've played heaps of the WC game and it is driving me mad - so much wasted potential. If FIFA 11 indicates to me like EA are heading in the wrong direction and if PES does the opposite, my experiment with FIFA may come to an end.


You know, the revisionist history with Fifa 08 has been quite surprising. Yes, there were good elements (ie slow game speed) and it was a great foundation, I really enjoyed the game. But there were soooo many issues and it seems like through nostalgia people discuss FIFA 08 on here as if it were PES 5. The game had loads of issues, chief of which were the fact that over 50% of my goals were near post goals, as keepers couldnt guard this. How can we talk about a game where one of the most essential elements of the game, scoring, was so off?

Two things:

1) I think often when we recall 08 we remember how good it was a)for a FIFA game and b)compared to PES that year.

2) As a whole package compared with FIFA 10 or the WC game, it is no contest - I could never go back to playing 08 after 360 dribbling and some of the advances FIFA has made. BUT, I think what most people are getting at is 08 had a feel to it that none of the games since have had.

The pace of gameplay was spot on and out of all the FIFA's I've played, 08 encouraged realistic and intelligent football like none of the others.

Also, many of us feel somewhat betrayed by EA in regards to 08 - it appeared to point to a new modus operandi for FIFA and we repeadetedly have been given the impression that a realistic football game was the goal, and yet the evidence taken from 09 and 10 indicates the contrary.
 
Think I'll wait and play the game myself before I start criticising anything. More the fool me though!

Same with PES. Some people are seriously mental in here.
 
Think I'll wait and play the game myself before I start criticising anything. More the fool me though!

Same with PES. Some people are seriously mental in here.

That's cool, never heard you say that before. It's too late to complain then, unless you mean for FIFA 12.
 
That's cool, never heard you say that before. It's too late to complain then, unless you mean for FIFA 12.

People are crying about certain things when they haven't even played the game though!!! Complain when it's in your hands. It's like saying a woman is shit in bed when how would you know? Cos yr mate says she was?! I'd still like to find out for myself though!!!

You get me?

Not going to complain about watching some mugs play the game when it's offline and pro passing looks turned off to me. Somebody said you can't turn it off but you can offline. At least that's what I read.
 
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That's cool, never heard you say that before. It's too late to complain then, unless you mean for FIFA 12.

It's already late to complain now. They never gonna change things now, 6 weeks before release. And things won't get patched after release...like FIFA 09 and FIFA 10
 
It's already late to complain now. They never gonna change things now, 6 weeks before release. And things won't get patched after release...like FIFA 09 and FIFA 10

People are mainly complaining about stuff that can be tweaked, not new features.
 
People are crying about certain things when they haven't even played the game though!!! Complain when it's in your hands. It's like saying a woman is shit in bed when how would you know? Cos yr mate says she was?! I'd still like to find out for myself though!!!

You get me?

Not going to complain about watching some mugs play the game when it's offline and pro passing looks turned off to me. Somebody said you can't turn it off but you can offline. At least that's what I read.
we need some clarity here

i've heard that pro passing in general can be turned off, only in offline games though.

i've also heard that it's just the little white indicator for the pro passing you can turn off.

Please can someone who knows post an answer in here and in the news thread and it will stop all the confusion.

obviously if EA actually explained themselves better we wouldn't have this problem.
 
Think I'll wait and play the game myself before I start criticising anything. More the fool me though!

Same with PES. Some people are seriously mental in here.

I sort of agree on some of the things we're bringing up, but the defending AI is there on the videos for all to see. Its not the human players its the atrocious defending from Fifa 10 that is still there. Its a fact. Its not up for discussion its there full stop.

So close to release, it may be too late to sort out and i'm not sure i can have another year of that crap.
 
we need some clarity here

i've heard that pro passing in general can be turned off, only in offline games though.

i've also heard that it's just the little white indicator for the pro passing you can turn off.

Please can someone who knows post an answer in here and in the news thread and it will stop all the confusion.

obviously if EA actually explained themselves better we wouldn't have this problem.

You can turn of pass weighting in offline modes. Powering up the pass that is. Contextual error will still be there, just not under- and overhitting.
 
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