Well i wanna know what it is because it looks effective
Yeah. It's simple and useful. I just don't want to do it by mistake any more. LOL
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Well i wanna know what it is because it looks effective
Funny how all the PES fanboys go on about player individuality.
Have you played PES demo all the players feel exactly the same.
Great vid man. How do you do the move at 30 sec? In 09 I always do it but on accident.
while sprinting perform the fake shot and pull back on the stick.
Say you are running to the right you are going to push it to the left.
but it still lacks that something (IMO) that I cannot quite indentify.
Bloody hell I'm confused.
Played the demo and thought meh when it first came out, but I'm really warming to it now.
I'm just getting use to pulling in both triggers and using it to take a defender on. It's a bit hit and miss TBH but that's more my skill than the game. I've also found adjusting the camera to my personal taste actually improves the pace of the ball, broadcast V2 with the camera zoomed out slightly and up a tad really gives a realistic experience.
I have the passing on semi because i cannot find the time needed to master manual, but it still feels free. i mentioned earlier that i cannot find how the passes have increased in pace, but having hit a few thumping crossfield balls i can see its got about an extra 10% of pace.
The heading lets it down, but if you time the defenders jump right you can get some distance and power.
The positional sense is very good, often too good for me as i would love to drop a through ball over the defenders head for a chance, but i can only seem to create a chance by intricate pass movements
Anyway, i've applied a bit more patience, with more passing from left to right and right to left, going back to go forward and its become quite joy.
I still hate (with a passion) the cut scenes, the way the camera snaps to the shit celebratation mode and the corners are a bit non descript.
I'd love to see some real power on headers from crosses, downward headers where they bounce up over the keeper are so rare, infact i have only scored one in all the FIFA's and they genearlly do not leap with any power and you get this standing jump that loops rather than drives into the net.
Nets are a bit average but this usually changes on the full game, graphics are not improved but i like the crowd reactions.
Penalties are nailed in this game and so is the overall footballing atmosphere, but it still lacks that something (IMO) that I cannot quite indentify.
Anyway I am slowly getting to grips with the potential depth and enjoyment of this game.
Played some more of it and i still can't think off anything that is gripping me?
Maybe it's these points..
*Soulless
*Individuality
*Magic
*That feeling
*Lack of control
To me, maybe it is my frustration at not being able to play the game how it's at it's best and just play on assisted/semi everything while holding sprint most of the game, trying to make it similar to PES...Passing from dot to dot upfield and never backwards.
Agreed, I really like the PES celebrations, always have... The way they celebrate with the players around them in real time is great.One thing IMO the other game has right is celebrations.
I hate after scoring a peach on FIFA a split second later its you controllnig a celebration. Much rather have a second or two of Euphoria then the players actual celebration, in game or cut-scene, with maybea a couple of variances, and one for a last minute winner/equalizer, or getting the ball back for kick-off etc
So does anyone actually give a damn about these controlled celebrations? After scoring a goal, I want to relax and savour it, not run about like a dick, then do a robot by accident.
lol @ Urban, pathetic .
Agreed, I really like the PES celebrations, always have... The way they celebrate with the players around them in real time is great.
They are contextual in terms of the match situation - if you are 2-0 down and just scored for 2-1 with 10 mins left, your player would grab the ball and run back quickly, if you were 3-0 up and scored in the last minute your players would just jog back and not celebrate much, if you scored a last minute winner/equaliser you would get massive celebrations etc...
Also, there were LOADS of individual celebrations for different players, brilliant.
(Agreed with a negative point about FIFA and positive point about PES, take note PES fans from the PES section...)
I posted this on PES demo thread. Is this fair?
There is so much ignorance, and pathetic defensiveness from people in this thread.
Dags has it spot on. Its a forum for people to discuss this sensibly, why should people have a one line sentence and leave it be, and not come back.
We are here due to our love of Pro Evo. Whether that was 5 years ago, or now, its irrelevant, everyones opinion deserves respect.
That said if anyone can honestly hand on heart think that what has been dished up in the past 2 years is anywhere close to the genius of the PS2 PES/WE games needs their eyes testing.
I wish it was. And the only reason it isnt is the game has gone from Simulation to Arcade IMO, and due to peoples fondness at the start of this century to the PS2 PES/WE games, they have a phenonemal amount of brand loyalty, because PES gave so many good experiences, and also consumed so much of peoples time. Lets be honest it was the ONLY football game to play 6 years ago.
What is inexcusable is how the E in PES for Evolution, has occurred in my opinion for the worse. I feel the game I once loved has regressed, whilst the competition (thanks to the recently arrived Peter Moore's perfectionist attitude) has improved dramatically. Imagine our old beloved PES with a similar improvement growth curve. We woudnt leave the house!!
I do not care which game is better, I'll buy the better football Sim, which first got me into PES, I care about a Japanese man, moving a once fantastic game in a direction, I find inexcusable, so it is now everything I used to admire in Fifa (graphics), and the gameplay has got worse, whilst FIFA's has IMO overtaken it.
How he has let this happen and regressed the series in 5 years only he knows.
If you lot like the demo fine. It just frustrates the hell out of me how such a once amazing football simulation is now like this. Lets be honest it isnt the PES that got us here all those years ago now is it? The "holy shit my imported Winnnig Eleven has finally arrived from Lik-Sang" game. The only game people bought a bloody x-port for so we could put option files on. The reason I bought a swap magic etc etc. I still remember in 2004 at unit me and my mates doing a Tournament with England and me scoring from 25 yards with Gerrard, with the ball going in off the bar, in the last minute to get us to the final! We still mention it
Now its just a game. And unfortunately not a very good one at that. Oh well, some of you like it. I just feel frustrated for all the reasons outlined.
The positional sense is very good, often too good for me as i would love to drop a through ball over the defenders head for a chance, but i can only seem to create a chance by intricate pass movements