Excuse me? Your benchmarks themselves claim that they're barely making full use of the PS3s cores, and his "sales figures" were wrong because Nvidia certainly did not sell "30 million 8800s" as he claimed. Go read them again, I'm pretty sure you didn't do so else you wouldn't keep claiming them to be proper evidence. Heck, since he couldn't even be bothered to read the actual source of the figures I'll give it to you right here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=148824&page=2
Want to talk about "PR BS"? It's right there, from the Nvidia bloke.
Also your benchmark was -outdated-, heck I even referred you to a newer version of the benchmark from the same guys AND they still admitted that it wasn't a fair comparison. What do you have to say to that?
Of course I know all about 'tricks' programmers play- PES has been full of it since day 1, and it's pretty common knowledge that you can edit files in FIFA09 for the PC in order to alter gameplay elements like the swerve of the ball, how bouncy it is etc. You'll notice that I wasn't the one who brought up comparisons in the first place, so maybe you should go get the source codes instead?
Uh madball, you do know a 7300gt is way, way inferior to even a 7600gt right? That was already the case even uh, 3 years ago when the 7600gt was decent mid-range card. Even now PES08 stutters at times when I play on medium, after I pared my running processes down to 27. Maybe you have too many processes in the way? You could try AMD's Fusion, it's helped me gain a few fps here and there, so it should be a major boost for you.
To jonney: well since I can see I'm not getting anywhere with plain logic I'll cease. It's not like what you say is going to stop me from enjoying both PES09 and FIFA09 anyway. Both, in my opinion, are pretty good on the PC with contrasting play styles, and the only thing to suffer will be my wallet. To each his own, eh mate? Maybe we can wait for the mods to come in and say a word or two, till then uh, have fun bashing EA.
... EA doesn't develop produce the games by the way, it just publishes them (like they did Battlefield and so many other games) so bashing them about DRM is pretty different from bashing the EA Sports FIFA09PC development team. Just thought you should know.
edit: I quoth Placebo, who's been around a far longer time than you and I (okay I've been lurking but hey) and makes sense most of the time.
IMO it's a completely flawed argument to say that the next gen console version of PES runs on PC so why doesn't the next gen console version of Fifa because they're completely different, PES is a very low end game in terms of graphics and gameplay engine, it doesn't have proper rendered faces and such, the players are much lower poly, as are the crowds and everything else, animations are old gen and very simple, there's no real physics/collisions engine in the game either, it's no brainer that PES runs ok on the average PC.
