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Well, I can confirm the PES2009 demo is a pile of shit. FIFA it is, then.
The movement on PES 2009 is atrocious, that's my main problem with it. I think they actually made it worse than 2008. The speed has barely improved, it feels clunky, passes STILL go in the wrong direction on a regular basis (I am glad of FIFA's fully manual passing), player speed still counts for nothing.
I agree it is 'fluid' in an arcade sense, but I want a simulation now, and FIFA is definitely closest to a sim for PC this year.
I must say actually, after playing the PES 2009 demo, FIFA did feel a little bit jittery, for want of a better description. However I think it's purely the contrast between Pro Evo's sloppy control and 'gliding' players vs. FIFA's much tighter movement, which I consider to be more realistic. I can see why people consider FIFA to be a bit sluggish in comparison, though.
Another thing that bothered me with Pro Evo 2009 is that players STILL don't do what I want them to. I had the ball in the opponent's half with Gary Neville, about 10 yards from the side of the pitch. It was a fantastic opportunity for Ronaldo to make a run forward, but what did he do? He fucking stood there like a lemon. In real life this simply would not happen.
In FIFA 09 on PC, the players do exactly what you'd expect. Wingers are always looking for attacking opportunities. Likewise defending players hang back. Maybe it's just more compatible with my own way of play, but to me it is just far more realistic.
Im glad that some people find FifaPC a football game...
even without me paticipating in this thread, many still agree with meyou know what guys? Im more angry at EA than at KONAMI...cause lets face it KONAMI team cannot keep up....so they do their best....but EA makes the masterpiece thats FIFA09 Xbox360/ps3 and then shoves at us that crap pc version...and thats unforgivable...
It would be very good for Fifa 2010 if they ported full next gen graphics into the game and also had an option for switchable ai from current gen to next gen. I prefer the pc gameplay to the next gen version at the moment as it feels more fluid and not as slow as it feels in console versions. However it would be great if they just ported it into Fifa 2010 and gave users the option to see if they could run it on their processor. What about an application before fifa 2010 starts being made, that tests the pc users processors to see if they are powerful enough and then submits the results. I reckon it won't even use 45% of my processor usage, the current gen version only uses 15%. How much more processor requirements are needed compared to the current gen to next gen. Does it require more than 3 times the cpu power. My processor can handle 9-10 times the current gen engine so if its more than that then let me know, even though my processor is not the fastest.
I remember developers complaining about the release of the xbox 360 and ps3 processors being too slow and that a pentium d would have been better than either of one used in the next gen consoles. If this is the case then a a 1.6ghz e2140 pentium dual core that costs £20-30 which is probably faster than the faster pentium d at 3.6ghz, as pentium dual core is based on coroe (core 2 duo) architecture, then all the 1-3% will need is a £30 processor to be capable of running next gen gameplay. Even my slowest laptop is faster than the pentium dual core with a mobile t7100 1.8ghz core 2 duo so it should be able to run it. If an xbox 360 can run it with a processor based from the powerpc mac g5 then a modern day processor should run it easily.
Finally Intel is the biggest processor manufacturer with the most advanced technologies. So ea are basically trying to say a 2004 developed 90nm IBM powerpc triple core is as fast as my 45nm 2008 quad core made by Intel, dream on. IBM powerpc processors are renowned for not living up to expectations, hence why Apple moved to Intel core 2 duo/quad. The powerpc in the g5 was being hyped by IBM to beat the fastest pentiums and athlons out at the time yet which supposed to beat everything got beaten by the majority of budget athlons and pentiums out, no wonder why Apple switched. They probably couldn't afford to get embarrased any longer of why their macs were so slow compared to windows computers although the os was not the issue just the over hyped slow hardware. I hope the ps4 and the new xbox will move on to intel processors as well as better graphics cards as no wonder why most games can't run at 1280*720 at 30fps on the ps3.
EA like IBM are over hyping the consoles outdated processors saying 3-4 year old IBM's processors are faster than the best offerings of the biggest processor manufacturer intel. Intel are starting to make their first major supercomputer now which will overtake the IBM's fastest number 1 supercomputer by 2012 and using about 280 000 processors less. No wonder why Nasa went with Intel. IBM have been making supercomputers for ages yet they are going to get overtaken by newcomers intel very quickly by the use of the current xeon quad cores and soon xeon nehalem quad cores.
Now ea most people who play the latest games on pc have a cpu made after 2006 which is two years newer than the next gen consoles cpus. Most people who play crysis don't use slow p4s, but core 2 duo or above with good mid range graphics cards that are over 3x times more powerful than say a ps3 graphics card.
Now you tell me why we can't run next gen?
I guess you will say that the processors in the console are designed to run games while Intel/AMD processors are for general pc tasks and not dedicated gaming cpus.
So why is it then the actual game developers complain about developing games for consoles as they feel limited in what performance they can achieve out of it after coding for pc games. The only people in EA who think it won't run are the people who represent EA publically in public relations. However if you ask the actual developers/coders they will say to you the majority of pc gamers computers can run next gen gameplay and graphics with ease.
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=969286
a brain dead fifa09 pc review....that completely equalises it to xbx30/ps3 versions...