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Placebo said:
You missed out the important part of that quote, and that is "The PC version is created by the same team responsible for the PS2 version".
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doesnt mean the same team who made the ps2 version are incapable of making the same ps3/360 gameplay if not better. at the end of teh day they have the ability to share teh same framework between the different teams and they even most likely work in the same building too.

i dont know why you and others dont have any FAITH in pc's for fifa. where the fuck are the pc uers in this forum:-ll

dont you have faith that the pc version of fifa will be better then the pc version of PES at least?
 
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doesnt mean the same team who made the ps2 version are incapable of making the same ps3/360 gameplay if not better. at the end of teh day they have the ability to share teh same framework between the different teams and they even most likely work in the same building too.

i dont know why you and others dont have any FAITH in pc's for fifa. where the fuck are the pc uers in this forum:-ll

dont you have faith that the pc version of fifa will be better then the pc version of PES at least?
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That isn't difficult ;)). FIFA 08 on PC may be better than PES 08 on PC :LOL:.

I don't think that team are capable of making a realistic football game, they have showed such incompetence in their shoddy PS2/PC games for about 6 years - I don't expect that to suddenly change. I can see from the screenshots that the overlay and goal kick camera angle are the same as the current PC/PS2 versions, so I would just expect it to be that with better graphics and a new control scheme, with minor gameplay changes.
 
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The "FIFA 09" in a big white box at the top left looks very amateurish - looks like a copy and paste job, like they didn't even make any effort to make it blend in with the rest of the screen.
 
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jonneymendoza said:
doesnt mean the same team who made the ps2 version are incapable of making the same ps3/360 gameplay if not better. at the end of teh day they have the ability to share teh same framework between the different teams and they even most likely work in the same building too.

i dont know why you and others dont have any FAITH in pc's for fifa. where the fuck are the pc uers in this forum:-ll

dont you have faith that the pc version of fifa will be better then the pc version of PES at least?
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You're the one who wants to turn everything into your immature little system wars, this isn't about which version is better, which version will look better, we're simply reiterating the facts as we read them from EA, you're the one who's getting all emotional (well you and the Polish chap) and it's really tiresome and pathetic.

Nowhere is anyone saying the PC version will be bad, nowhere is anyone saying the PC cannot handle gameplay and physics engine just the same as 360/PS3, nowhere is anyone saying they hope the PC version is bad, nowhere is anyone saying that you jonneymendoza are a pathetic person for wanting the PC version to be good (seeing as you seem to be taking it all so personally).

EA themselves have stated that the PC version will be almost next gen graphics with the same gameplay and features as the current gen version.

EA themselves said that the PC game is developed by the same team that develops the PS2 version.

Read into that what you like, I don't care, you want to believe that the shit smells of roses you go on doing so.

Your constant whining, bickering, paranoid observations about supposed insults to systems you have personal affection for are tiring to the extreme.

You're repeatedly getting into bickering matches with people, you've been asked more than once how old you are, personally I don't care if you're 12 or 40, you seriously need to grow the fuck up.
 
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Placebo said:
Where'd you read that?
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On the Fifa 09 forum... :(( Some of the Fifa manager stuff has been brought in though :)) I'm trying to find any info on the manager mode updates...

In full, quite long though, forgive... :THINK:

The spanish article translated. It looks like manager mode will be better (thank the lord). According to this it has more elements from fifa manager on the pc in it.

The true realism next-gene The graphic performance is excellent: with all it said, during all our parties were maintained 60 frames by stable second functioning to 1080p, with the only exception of falls in the repetitions, although was assured us that will be a detail that will be rectified in the following betas. And speaking of the repetitions, they are an ideal moment to compare the level of detail that this new version of FIFA incorporates. For example, the herb sinks to the step of the ball or of the boots of the players, and in slow motion can be seen how the blades of grass are depressed and they raise to each centimetro that the ball rolls by them.



On the other hand the textures of the players represent veins, pores, fuzz, imperfections of the skin, músuclos of the legs or even the edge of the shinguard excelling for the average. On the whole 500 of the more than 16,000 players of FIFA 09 have received a special deal in its so much facial as corporal recreation, and like could not be of another form is a matter of talents as the Christian Ronaldo, to Say, Ronaldinho, Ribery, Benzema, Village, Fábregas, Tevez or Booths, top-level footballers transferred to the screen with the greater fidelity.



You work you your career of professional In the ways of local play the news supposes it the Be to For Season, that puts us in the skin of a player, chosen by defect or created to our free will, along 4 seasons in which should be opened step by the world of the soccer. It is a reflection of the way Dynasty of Madden that so much acceptance had on the other side of the puddle and a continuation with it included in the UEFA Euro 2008, where we should try to arrive at captain of our selection. In this intent to be worked road we should comply diverse objectives for season, as to note a concrete figure of goals or to put an end to a specific performance to continue scaling positions.



Tournaments appear also; 30 different competitions between cups and leagues of diverse countries, some important leagues in exclusive, and the way Career, in which along 15 seasons we will direct the reins of a so much team in the country as out of him, in this edition incorporating more PC Manager FIFA elements. Finally, the way Loungue permits to keep all the results that have with to 20 different friends, simply is a place in which to be amused with the electronic of passed clashes.

Ambition online In the options online EA Sports tried to jell the most complete compatibility through Internet of any sports title. The way Be to For online, that in it passed edition permitted parties of 5 against 5 is going to see expanded to a greater number of footballers, although there will be that to wait for the E3 to know to where arrives its ambition. What yes we can advance is the creation of Lobbys, that will facilitate enormously to play with the friends.

The web EA Sports Football World, in phase beta, will permit the creation of an avatar in which the progression of the player in the shape of statistics will be reflected. This will give us idea of how do they play rival, so much indirectly by the statistics, as visualizing videos of these, since they will be able to rise the own played. Likewise the facet online is one of the large tricks of EA Sports to continue improving to FIFA, since this will be utilized for contribute news that will guarantee that the players do not choose always to the same teams and whose details will be finished confirming soon. The Leagues Online will continue also present.



"Plays your way" That the motto of FIFA 09 in the control. Offering three Alternative, Classical, different plans and Personalizable -that button by button can be redefined- EA Sports intends to endow the player of a total one personalizacion of the control the asiganción of buttons. But this philosophy is opened also to the tactical section, one of the traditionally more poor in the FIFA. In the formations has 20
fixed with the traditional plans as 4-3-3 or 4-4-2, while is possible to develop the own of the player, to keep them and to share them on the Internet. This option is born according to EA, of it collected of the feedback and comments of the players of FIFA through webs, forums, surveys and Comunty Managers. In words of Andrew Wilson, Executive Producer of the franchise; "we have listened and responded to all the players and fans to the soccer on a worldwide basis on which was the form to build an unique experience and completely personalized of FIFA 09 for each platform".

Depth and tactical possibilities as for the tactics of the teams, different variables can be published such as the form to defend, the velocity of circulation of the ball, the type of pair in the counterattacks -crusader, flat in depth or long ball-, the positioning of the players in the pressure, the aggressiveness of this, to do that a head office plunges to the attack -even the goalkeeper in extreme situations-, The possession, to open the play to the bands, the zones of cover and other multiple facets with the ones that tries to deepen in the tactical thing. Thus same some small explanations train on the effect that causes to modify them in each direction.


Different tactics can be stored and to change them quickly according to the needs of the party, real-time through the directional pairs.



The adjustments of team also include options already presents previously as to publish the exact position of the players in the country, its role, the defensive and offensive tendency -something that if we force putting it very high, will result on the energies of ours small, being tired before- or the movements to the attack and toward where falls and toward where blocks each player in the defense. The strategy also is expanded to different variant of córners, kick-offs of band or you lack, each one mapped to several beatings of a same one boton -for example, button B x3, or TO x4-.



EA Sports assures that will incorporate new dodges, but in this first contact we have seen none significant although yes reviews of the already existing. Also other new movements as a maneuver to protect the ball that is carried out maintaining pressed the trigger of career, with what the player stops and conserves the possession putting the body in the direction that the opponent appears.



blame the online translator for the broken english.
 
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Thanks, I also read about "improvements taken from PC Fifa Manager" but I'm expecting that to (sadly) just be about the tactical editing side of things :(
 
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Hopefully EA should soon release a gameplay trailer at least. I think EA now they actually have the superior game to Konami and are waiting for PES news to hit and release it at the same time to overshadow there news maybe?
 
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FIfa doesn't need to play their cards 1st anymore like they always had to and they know it.

I doubt we will see gameplay until someone sneaks in some footage!! from a presentation of the game
 
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Uhm, any news/rumour on the audio part of the game? The visual looks stunning, with an improved commentary the atmosphere is just gonna be amusing to say the least.

Ah i really like the grass texture this time!
 
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GanTE said:
10 vs 10 could be fun :P
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Let's put it this way: I'd buy an Xbox and FIFA09 + Live Gold. For realz. Anything to be the rightback in a team solely consisting of humans. No AI required. It is the ultimate way of playing IMO. Especially since you could now form clans or players that have practiced together so they can keep the team together.
 
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Trance_Allstar said:
Let's put it this way: I'd by an Xbox and FIFA09 + Live Gold. For realz. Anything to be the rightback in a team solely consisting of humans. No AI required. It is the ultimate way of playing IMO. Especially since you could now form clans or players that have practiced together so they can keep the team together.
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I use to play 5 VS 5 ON 360 Live with some friends on fifa 08, form clans it´s a good idea :D
 
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5 V 5 doesn't work properly 99% of the time, I will be fucking amazed if they manage to implement 10 V 10 flawlessly
 
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GanTE, just out of curiosity (and a complete personal lack of experience), what is the online gameplay like?

Is there lots of lag from when you press a button to when the action is executed onscreen, does the ball teleport alot etc?

I am wondering what type of gameplay you can realistically expect, if you assume that your broadband connection is no limitation in terms of speed and such.
 
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5v5 doesnt work because of the people, there isnt much lag at all when i play it on the PS3.
 
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Trance_Allstar said:
Anything to be the rightback in a team solely consisting of humans. No AI required. It is the ultimate way of playing IMO. Especially since you could now form clans or players that have practiced together so they can keep the team together.
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Unfortunately, AI is still required. It is ever present in making the action unfold. Even with no AI players, the AI model still has to decide which players wins any given challenge based on player stats, circumstances, probabilities and most importantly in terms on negative impact on fun, which team the AI is deciding to favour at that moment.

FIFA08 5v5, whilst the best mode I've ever played, still has huge AI interference which can give one team or the other all the "luck".

As for your question about on-line play (albeit addressed to someone else), I find it really good...and I'm usually the first to moan about anything in football games. I've certainly never had the ball teleport about. There is a bit of delay in pressing button to the event occuring, but it's like that off-line too. It's still perfectly playable....you get used to needing to preempt things, getting your button press in early.

It has various bugs and glitches (at worst, occassionally the game just plain freezes and you have to reboot the console - but I certainly don't think it's anywhere near as buggy and unplayable as some make out), but it's the most addictive gameplay experience I've ever had. I've played many, many thoroughly enjoyable 5v5 matches on-line.

FIFA09 10v10, with it's improved response times over 08 and EA purporting to have put a lot of effort into improving the on-line side of the game, will have me glued to my PS3.
 
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winston said:
FIFA09 10v10, with it's improved response times over 08 and EA purporting to have put a lot of effort into improving the on-line side of the game, will have me glued to my PS3.
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Here Here.:))
 
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winston said:
Unfortunately, AI is still required. It is ever present in making the action unfold. Even with no AI players, the AI model still has to decide which players wins any given challenge based on player stats, circumstances, probabilities and most importantly in terms on negative impact on fun, which team the AI is deciding to favour at that moment.

FIFA08 5v5, whilst the best mode I've ever played, still has huge AI interference which can give one team or the other all the "luck".

As for your question about on-line play (albeit addressed to someone else), I find it really good...and I'm usually the first to moan about anything in football games. I've certainly never had the ball teleport about. There is a bit of delay in pressing button to the event occuring, but it's like that off-line too. It's still perfectly playable....you get used to needing to preempt things, getting your button press in early.

It has various bugs and glitches (at worst, occassionally the game just plain freezes and you have to reboot the console - but I certainly don't think it's anywhere near as buggy and unplayable as some make out), but it's the most addictive gameplay experience I've ever had. I've played many, many thoroughly enjoyable 5v5 matches on-line.

FIFA09 10v10, with it's improved response times over 08 and EA purporting to have put a lot of effort into improving the on-line side of the game, will have me glued to my PS3.
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Cheers for the thorough info Winston.
I was overly simplifying my No AI comment obviously, and I was mostly referring to the AI players in 08 always having split-second responsiveness and being able to run around for hours without loosing possession.
Plus with 09 supposedly having stat-based collisions and jostling etc, might take some of the randomness and "why am I always loosing every challenge and the ball neatly rolling to an opponent every time" kind of things out. ;)
 
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Trance_Allstar said:
Cheers for the thorough info Winston.
I was overly simplifying my No AI comment obviously, and I was mostly referring to the AI players in 08 always having split-second responsiveness and being able to run around for hours without loosing possession.
Plus with 09 supposedly having stat-based collisions and jostling etc, might take some of the randomness and "why am I always loosing every challenge and the ball neatly rolling to an opponent every time" kind of things out. ;)
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Yeah, I know you appreciate AI still has a role to play, even if all players are supposedly human controlled.

I was taking the opportunity to emphasise the fact that the EA AI (copied from Konami) still chooses to favour one team over another at any given period in a match, and your controller input will be completely disregarded at times when your team is on the wrong side of this AI control.

I don't, for one second, think that EA will have removed this hideous feature from their game and I fully expect to find many 10v10 matches to be rendered annoying and worthless because my team is not the chosen one, and likewise, expect to see many opposition players quit as they realise their team is never going to win, no matter what.

Writing "morale" and "mentality" into the gameplay will always result in the sentiment of "why should I bother playing on when the cpu is scritped against me?". I'm sure I'll still be quitting lots of games half way through when it's clear the AI model has already decided my team's morale is such that they will not be allowed to score.

I will be much happier when both EA and Konami realise that scripting mental aspects into the gameplay is utterly false and the very antithesis of gameplay. I have my own mind, I don't need it scripted.
 
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in FIFA 08, it feels like your kicking a beachball. The ball is far too floaty, anyone else agree? Corners dont have enough speed or whip on them, do you think they will improve this in 09? If they fixed this and the responsiveness, itd be great
 
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