PLF, IMO Zlatan underachieved in CL. Players with his reputation win several matches in a CL...when did he ever did that?
I can't remember a single match where he was the match winner...the only team that really went far in the CL witb Zlatan in it was Barcelona (but he never played)...
that's a common misperception Gerd. sometimes a single game can sculpt people's mind and impress on them such strong opinions and sensations that it becomes very difficult to change their minds.
it happened with kakà when he tore apart man utd in that CL semi-final years ago. kaka had been playing on those crazy standards for 2 years then, but only serie a followers noticed it. then epl followers saw him driving the red devils crazy and all of a sudden he became the best player in the world. it was a single performance, wich is absolutely not enough to rate a player.... and yet most of the people in the world based their opinion on kaka on that match alone (even in this forum).
same happened with c. ronaldo. there were thousands of people repeating the same bullshit about him "yeah he's great, but he can't perform on the biggest stages".... LOL! then he scores in a CL final and suddenly those people completely change their mind about him. it was just a single goal, and yet for most people that goal was more "important" than 2 years of world class performances.
as for ibra, what killed his reputation was a liverpool-inter game, years ago. ibra came up with a disappointing performance that night, and that single performance ruined his reputation for good for most "only-epl followers".
i remember i had a conversation about this some time ago in one of the club threads (can't remember wich nor when). i posted some stats to prove how ibra's numbers in champions league were actually better than torres numbers (and we're talking about when torres was having his best form period at anfield).
and yet the undenyable truth, cold hard facts and stats weren't enough to change people's mind. why? because what really impresses people, what sticks on their minds, are single stand-outs performance. that's what people looks after.
u might have an average goal per match ratio of 0.5 in domestic leagues and of 0.3 in CL (wich is ibra's case)... people still won't consider that, they won't care. they will tell you "
yeah, but did he ever really have a standout performance in a big match that I WATCHED?" because eventually that's the only thing that matters when most fans judge a player.
zlatan has the second best combined goals\assists per match ratio on the planet (only messi did better than him over the last 10 years. not even c. ronaldo, and henry did better than him). but most epl followers never saw him single handedly lead his team to a win, so they will always see him as an underachiever.
even in spain he did great (any barça fan will confirm u that). in the first half of his one season with the blaugranas he litterally carried the team on his shoudlers (his goals\assist ratio was sick! perhaps alexis also remembers the numbers).
then he broke up with guardiola and things went downhill (that fucker insulted pep in front of his teammates and also threatened to punch him... can u believe it!?!)
and anyway, even forgetting about all the drama in the dressing room, ibra still scored 22 goals that season.
and let's not forget ibra was also absolutely unfit to barça playing style.
if i may give u a suggestion mate (and please forgive my arrogance for that), don't give too much importance to single performances, and don't use champions league as a benchmark to rate a player as an underachiever. antonio di natale (just to make an example) has a pretty lousy champions league record (he almost hasn't a CL history at all), and yet he's hardly an underachiever and i doubt anyone who's seen him playing would question his "worldclassness"
