FC Barcelona Thread

LOL! Anyone read the Barcelona-Raoila fued last night. This guy is crazy I think thinking Barcelona would have let go of Guardiola instead of Ibrahimovic.
 
That guy is a lunatic! Can't believe so many big players hire him as agent tho I suppose he must be very good at what he does and get great terms for his players which is what they're really after.

But no I haven't read it. Where's the link? I'd like to read that.
 
Is it the same guy is calling Cruijff senile?
If this guy is a lunatic then i understand why he is Zlatan's agent...Zlatan is completely nuts...
 
Is this much ado about nothing? Article from Syd Lowe:

And so at last it's official: Barcelona versus Real Madrid, Spain's clásico, will be played at 9 p.m. on Nov. 29. That's MONDAY, Nov. 29. It will be the last game of jornada, or Match Day, 13.
Before the decision was made, Real Madrid's director general Jorge Valdano pointedly described the possibility of the game being held on a Monday as "the best way to help football lose its prestige" and now that those fears have been confirmed Madrid's sporting Director Miguel Pardeza complained: "Monday is the day that no one wanted. There were problems [with playing at the weekend] but other solutions should have been sought."
Immediately after the announcement, the newspaper AS ran an online poll: 88 percent said they were against the game being played on Monday. In Marca, the figure was 85 percent. In Catalonia the figures were less clear-cut but still a majority said they didn't like the idea of the clásico on Monday. Seventy percent of those who voted on Sport's web page were against it, even though the following day the paper boasted that Pep Guardiola had got his way and that Barcelona "had scored the first" against Real Madrid. Almost 60 percent were against it in El Mundo Deportivo's poll. Everywhere, people were going crazy over it.
But while there have been howls of derision, in many ways they are the wrong howls of derision. The decision has been presented by the league as the best thing for fans. But fans have been shown little more than an extended middle finger, the contempt in which they are held revealed once again. Meanwhile, the way the decision was taken, when the decision was taken, again hinted at an incomfortable truth: Spain may have Messi and Ronaldo but until basic structural issues are resolved, it will not truly compete with the English Premier League.
The reason given for a Monday night match is that on Sunday Nov. 28, the date on which most anticipated the match being held, there are elections in Catalonia. As for Saturday, the other traditional match day, that would come just three days after Barcelona have traveled to Greece to face Panathinaikos in the Champions League.
The president of the company that owns Spain's television rights cited "the fact that the match coincides with the elections and the security problems that poses in Barcelona," as the key reason for the decision. He said: "Everyone involved has sought out the best solution and this was the most rational date from a sporting, civil, and fans' perspective. There are 80,000 people, many of them Barcelona fans, who will be working during the elections on Sunday. It could have been a real mess."
Some are not convinced; some think that the excuse is exactly that -- an excuse. Electoral colleges will close at 10, voters have all day to visit the ballot box. As for the "many" working on Sunday, many more will be working on Monday. Some question whether policing needs are so great as make the holding of two events logistically impossible. As Marca pointed out: only 500 Mossos d'Escadra (Barcelona police) are used for the clásico -- and the force has over 14,000 officers.
Regardless of the reasons given, many think that Monday night just isn't a night for the world's greatest football match. Barcelona and Real Madrid, the argument goes, are too big to be shifted onto what has, until recently, largely been La Liga's graveyard shift -- a forgotten afterthought to the weekend's games, populated mostly by teams that no one wants to watch. "Monday night is not a fitting time for a game of this magnitude," said Pardeza.
He might even be right but that alone is no reason not to play on a Monday night. If the Spanish league has decided that Monday nights are legitimate nights for football, there is no reason why Madrid and Barcelona -- in a week without European competition -- should be made exempt. To do so would be to reinforce the already alarming chasm that separates the Big Two from the rest. As the Villarreal president Fernando Roig put it: "if we terrestrials have to play on Monday, why shouldn't the celestials?"
Quite apart from being unfair, it would also serve undermine the very concept of Monday Night Football: what's the point of fighting for a TV slot only to fill it with games few want to watch?
Yet you have to be realistic and maximize the viewing potential, and not just inside Spain. There is also the international angle: when a Monday night kick-off was mooted, broadcasting sources both in the U.K. and the U.S. confirmed to SI.com that they were confident that the game would be played at the weekend. "There's no way it will be Monday," the message went, "the international rights are far too important." This decision has proved that not to be entirely true. Rhetoric and reality have been shown yet again to be different. To judge by their public message, it's a huge surprise; for those who find that the LFP and the RFEF are incapable of communicating with the international media, or each other, it comes as no surprise at all.
The Spanish league has talked constantly about its desire to strengthen its international appeal as the best way to increase revenue. It is the assumption that they can up the overall size of the TV deal from around €600m to €900m ($815 million to $1.2 billion) , based on international rights, that underpins negotiations over a new, collectively-signed deal. Clubs have even discussed moving matches to 3 p.m. in order to have a better share of the Far East: one of La Liga's obsessions has been the "unfair" timetable advantage that the Premier League has. Last week, Atlético formally asked to kick off at midday.
And yet here is the biggest game in the world -- in truth, the only game that really gets international broadcasters excited; the one that could be used as leverage in vital negotiations -- and it will be played at 9 p.m. on a Monday. In the middle of the night, between Monday and Tuesday, in the Far East. In the middle of the day -- a working day -- in North and South America.
Others have complained that the fixing of the game has destroyed people's plans. Again, it is a particular problem for international fans. But not only for them: Spain is a big country and Madrid and Barcelona have supporters all over the Iberian Peninsula. Many of Barcelona's fans travel from all over Catalonia. Flights, trains and buses have been bought, hotels booked, tickets paid for. Unsure as to whether the game was on Saturday or Sunday, most played safe and booked return trips on Monday morning -- ready for work. What are they supposed to do now?
This is the crux of the issue. In their complaints many have failed to see the wood for the trees. The date of this game is just one expression of a far bigger problem, one which is bigger still because of the apparent failure to even see it as a problem at all.
On Sunday Nov. 28 there are elections in Catalonia. That decision was taken on Sept. 7. It might have made civic sense to choose a different date. Politicians certainly know the significance of Barcelona-Madrid: they have used it to their advantage often enough. And if elections shouldn't fit around football -- and maybe they shouldn't -- once that decision was made why not immediately seek solutions?
The cynical yet true answer is simple: because that would require forward planning, maybe even a little bit of organization. Guts, too. And those are things the LFP simply does not have.
People who are missing the game because their tickets no longer coincide with it took a risk and paid for it. Maybe it's their own fault. But why not remove that risk for them? Why make every customer, every fan -- the people you claim to be protecting -- play Russian roulette whenever they want to go to a game? And as for the assumption that it's only foreigners getting messed around, not 'real' fans: first, that's the very foreigners the league is supposedly courting and, secondly, it's not true.
Every single weekended, people take the same risk: this is not the only game whose date and kick off time was not fixed. Quite the opposite. It is a miracle fans travel to games at all. It is no surprise that away support is so conspicuously absent in Spain.
The problem is not that the clásico is on Monday, although that does bring difficulties and it is not ideal for a huge game that is supposed to be the international showpiece for the league. The problem is that, until last Friday Nov. 12, the clásico could have been on Saturday, Sunday or Monday. In fact, until Friday much of the media had announced -- unofficially but "definitively" -- that it would be on Sunday 28 at 10 p.m.
The problem is not when it it is, but that no one knew when it is. The problem is that the decision over the date of the clásico was made on Nov. 11 -- just 18 days before, 16 days before the jornada begins.
And that's actually good. Really. Every weekend, Spain's 10 games are distributed over Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Which games are where and when is not normally announced until eight days before the jornada begins. This game was decided sooner. In fact, a decision was promised sooner for the sake of supporters. So the league announced the date of the biggest sporting event of the year 18 whole days in advance. And for that, it seems, we are supposed to be eternally grateful.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/sid_lowe/11/15/clasico.monday/index.html#ixzz15Xca41Tm
 
I didn't find a link containing the whole so I combined them here. Raoila is the agent of Zlatan,Balotelli,and Maxwell and Nedved previously. Very nice story though. :)

Cruyff: "Zlatan's style is more adapted to Italian than Spanish football. He played very well in the derby and showed to whom he belongs.”

Raoila(Zlatan's agent): “Cruyff can go to hell! He is a nobody. He is becoming old and didn’t have the courage to continue his management career, as he doesn’t know how to train a modern club. Why didn’t Cruyff tell Zlatan that he wasn’t suited to Spanish football before Barcelona signed him? I think Cruyff should be in a mental asylum with Guardiola, so they can sit there quietly and play cards together. They would be doing Barcelona a great favour.”

Official statement Barcelona: "With immediate effect FC Barcelona is blocking all pending payments to Mr. Raiola. FC Barcelona would like to state that we consider that recent statements by Mino Raiola are unacceptable. Raiola has again questioned the honour and moral integrity of our coach Josep Guardiola and of Johan Cruyff. For this reason, the legal department is considering taking legal measures against Mr. Raiola."

Raoila: "I only said Cruyff should go to a spa. I didn't say anything about Guardiola. I don't have anything against Guardiola. He's a great coach. My player Maxwell feels good with him."
 
Raiola is simply an idiot, as there are many around. The bad thing is he's a very rich idiot. People like that shouldn't have a pleasant life. That shows how stupidly grotesque is everything around football with all that money involved.
 
Well, a bit controversial... He did some incredible signings, in fact: Pique for 5 M€, Toure for 5 M€, Marquez for 6 M€, Belleti for 5M €, Larsson practically for free... he's a calm man with a big nose ;)

Perhaps his best decision was convincing Laporta that Barcelona didn't need Mourinho and that Guardiola (who had no experience then) was the right man to continue Rijkaard's job. And what a risky and right decision he took!

But, on the other hand, he did some terrible signings as well, specially in Brasil, spending more than 40 M€ on young brazillians that never reached the first team (Keirrison, Hernandes...). All of them through a company called TRAFFIC that have some dirty business here and there and rumours are Txiqui was earning a percentage of eachs signing.

So, while he's a man who truly understands football and can detect a good deal, he's at the same time someone who was not free of suspicions here at Barcelona for some people. But he did a good job overall, much better than Zubizarreta by now. Both were players of the Cruyff 90s dream team, so they have a special view of the sport, they both prefer skill over strength, fantasy above order, inspiration above speed.
 
LOL! I'd really love a detailed post why you hate Madrid that much. :D

Is it because Mourinho,Perez,Calderon, or even before that?
 
Good luck for the classico...football needs Barcelona to win that match...

Don't know why...

But, on the other hand, he did some terrible signings as well, specially in Brasil, spending more than 40 M€ on young brazillians that never reached the first team (Keirrison, Hernandes...). All of them through a company called TRAFFIC that have some dirty business here and there and rumours are Txiqui was earning a percentage of eachs signing.

It's Henrique (former Palmeiras), my friend. Hernandes is at Lazio. Keirrison is crap, oh dare, how could Barcelona and Benfica had such a bad player!

About Traffic, they have some dirty business as you said but I have to thank them because they saved Estoril. They took control on my local solving our financial problems. The worst part is that our team is full of Brazilian players now (good players I must say).

Overall, I think Txiqui served you well. I respect the guy so much. He was a good player too, I must say.

What do you think about Rossell drekkard? Laporta was/is a controversial guy (look Catalonia elections) but he did a very good job at Barcelona. I presume it will be hard to Sandro achieve the same as Joan did.

By the way, good luck for the Clásico. More football and less controversy is what I'm hoping (apart of those lovely mind games of course :P)
 
Oh, sorry, of course it was Henrique, who now is on Racing Santander.

Special, good luck to you too on monday.

Personally, I hate Rosell. Laporta was a bit of a clown here and there, but was a great character and a great president. We won everything with him in all the sections, and is the chairman with the best titles average record in history. Not only that, he ended with violence in the stadium, signed a deal with Unicef that is being a matter of study in all marketing schools, and most important: he was surrounded of very good and talented people.

Rosell, on the other hand, is a posh, a rich idiot who thiks too high of himself and does nothing. Since he arrived to barcelona everything he's done has been absolute rubish, he is obsessed with Laporta's shadow (they have a long story). He lacks charisma and ideas.

He stopped the flow of new members to the club (a long and ridiculous story), he destroyed the image of Barcelona by making our debts public (to save his own ass), something that has been controversial because the numbers he let in public are not quite accurate... He also got rude with Cruyff and sold Chygrinsky when Guardiola clearly didn't want to. And Guardiola won't be long at our bench with this twat in the chair...
 
I don't hate Real Madrid. It's stupid to hate, let alone to hate football clubs.
I just think Real Madrid are a bad example. Successfull clubs should be role models, Real isn't..to much interfering from authorities throughout their history and also some fraudulent financial practices...no fair competition.

Of course there are Real players i like: Casillas and Redondo is even oneof my all time favourites, more that any Barcelona player.
 
Redondo favorite than any barcelona player ever? Mmmmm, get out of this thread inmediately!!!! That's like prefering Fignon to Merckx, you know what I'm talking about! ;)

Redondo was a genius, actually. I still remember that backheel at Old Trafford... Though I believe Xavi, Messi and Cruyff are/were greater geniuses, to say some.

I agree with you with Madrid not being a role model at all. I've said something about this in the Madrid thread. In the last 20 years they have eroded the historical values of the club. Their straight bond to dictatorship is a big cloud on his history, but even then, at least they defended some noble values. Not lately.

Wish us luck for tonight's classico! I think it will be VERY even. Mourinho will try to hide and play counter all the time, as he always do at the Camp Nou. I hope we can cope well with their straight football and we can watch a fair match and they don't try to break Messi's ankle as usual in the first 10 minutes.

That said, it would be great if the referee could award us with our first penalty in 10 months. Really it's a very worrying fact, benig the team that spends most time in the opponent's area.
 
You haven't got a penalty in 10 months? That is not logical at all for a team that dominates as much as Barcelona...

Of course Cruijff was a bigger genius than Redondo. And one could argue about both Xavi, Iniesta and of course Messi of the current Barcelona team...but i really loved Redondo...that is very, very subjective. My all time favoured player is Roma's Giannini...he will rarely feature in the best ever Italian team (being a contemporary of Baggio...who was the better player...but i preferred Giannini).

I hope i can stay now...
 
Well, a bit controversial... He did some incredible signings, in fact: Pique for 5 M€, Toure for 5 M€, Marquez for 6 M€, Belleti for 5M €, Larsson practically for free... he's a calm man with a big nose ;)

Perhaps his best decision was convincing Laporta that Barcelona didn't need Mourinho and that Guardiola (who had no experience then) was the right man to continue Rijkaard's job. And what a risky and right decision he took!

But, on the other hand, he did some terrible signings as well, specially in Brasil, spending more than 40 M€ on young brazillians that never reached the first team (Keirrison, Hernandes...). All of them through a company called TRAFFIC that have some dirty business here and there and rumours are Txiqui was earning a percentage of eachs signing.
Thanks.
Do you reckon he dealt with more than transfer deals and scouting?
So, while he's a man who truly understands football and can detect a good deal, he's at the same time someone who was not free of suspicions here at Barcelona for some people. But he did a good job overall, much better than Zubizarreta by now. Both were players of the Cruyff 90s dream team, so they have a special view of the sport, they both prefer skill over strength, fantasy above order, inspiration above speed.
With the talks of him lining up to join us this doesn't make much sense, strength and order are exactly the words that describe our play and the players we've had the last few years.
 
You haven't got a penalty in 10 months? That is not logical at all for a team that dominates as much as Barcelona...

Of course Cruijff was a bigger genius than Redondo. And one could argue about both Xavi, Iniesta and of course Messi of the current Barcelona team...but i really loved Redondo...that is very, very subjective. My all time favoured player is Roma's Giannini...he will rarely feature in the best ever Italian team (being a contemporary of Baggio...who was the better player...but i preferred Giannini).

I hope i can stay now...

Yes, you can stay... but only if you wish us a lot of luck ;)

That said, I rate Redondo in my top 10 of defensive midfielders of all time, mind you. I don't remember much of Giannini, it was difficult to see football from abroad those days...
 
drekkard, I read what you said about rosell n Pep not seeing eye 2 eye atm. Rumors are saying Roman is clearing out coaches n staff at the bridge to line up Pep n Co. I personally can not even think about that happening. I dream that Pep will come to Arsenal and take Pat`s place (California dreaming) where he would take the manager position 1 day as Wenger takes the chairman role i suppose. good Luck for tonight Classico
 
Y, good luck to you to Beboq! I also heard rumours about it, but I don't think Chelsea is the right club for Pep. He would be an incredible replacement for Fergusson at Man Urd, though. His personality would suit them better. And for style of play, Arsenal would be the obvious choice.

honestly I think Pep will go in one or 2 years. But he's so keen to Italy, too, so I wouldn't dismiss the chances he goes there once his cycle at Barcelona ends.

Reality is he's the perfect coach for Barcelona, I don't know how he would perform in other circumstances and other styles of players/club.
 
Hope Barcelona win but I do have a soft spot for Ronnie and potentially our next manager being Mourinho.

I think for the game to be a great one Real need to score early, otherwise I can see a dull 0-0.
 
Hope Barcelona win but I do have a soft spot for Ronnie and potentially our next manager being Mourinho.

I think for the game to be a great one Real need to score early, otherwise I can see a dull 0-0.

fergie won`t retire alive :LOL: Mourinho should go to blank check City!!!
 
Yeah, I'm with YG on this. After such extraordinary hype, this will probably be a tedious, tight affair, resulting in a draw.

Hope I'm wrong though!
 
I'm off to the stadium guys, if you see the mosaic at the beginning of the match, I'm one of the "pixels" of one of the yellow letters!

PS: It won't be a tie, people! I think both will score. We, at least, will score for sure. It takes a miracle for us not to score at home and God already wasted it against Hercules in september.
 
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