FC Barcelona Thread

Yeah, Suarez is great.
As for your midfield, give up on Cesc and take the Pastore from Palermo...he has all to become a great player...and on top of that he should fit well with Messi... Cesc is great, but Pastore will become better IMO.
 
Yes, I think the same about Pastore, but he might be even more expensive than Cesc regarding the news. Plus, Cesc is born here, so even if I would love to have Pastore, the media and social pression will make Cesc come here. We definitely need one of them as soon as possible.

Regarding Suarez, his manager is Guardiola's brother. It seems that this is what delayed the operation up to now, since Guardiola didn't want to feel "suspect" of doing business with his brother. I hope he gets over it and snap him for next season!
 
Suarez? If you're going to get another striker, it should be someone good in the air, who can give you a Plan B, like Llorente.

You missed a trick with Chamakh, who was available on a free last summer.
 
I really like Suarez, but he wouldn't be the first striker who excells in the Dutch competition and who afterwards fails to deliver...
To be honest, i never really understood why Barcelona let Eto'o. IMO he is still the best goal scorer of the world in big competitions over an extended period. Milito was great last season, but to me he is not in the same league as Eto'o.
 
Yes, etoo was THE striker for us. I don't get some of Guardiola's decisions and I don't rate him very high on the strategic level, but in everything else he's the master of the universe and has proven to be the ideal person to be in charge of the team.

Llorente would be great but it will cost too much (30 M€). Chamakh is a brilliant player and would have been perfect for our plan B, Abou, I think this every time I watch him at Arsenal.

About Mascherano, he hasn't been playing much, but lately he's getting the thing to it. It's really difficult to play as CDM at Barcelona. One of the hardest positions to understand how to play. It's one of the most important pieces of the team. Busquets is good though I don't like his style of play, always passing short and not "opening" the field quickly.

In the last matches, specially against Getafe, Mascherano displayed a much better vision and did some good long passing. I think he will be a squad player and will get more and more minutes during the season.
 
Didn't Barcelona give up on the tall striker thing after Ibrahimovic? They play much better with a fast striker that can pass. Eto'o was perfect and Villa seems to be doing the trick. Ibra was kinda heavy on the way they play.

Pastore and Cesc are different. Cesc is going to fill for Xavi while Pastore might fill for Iniesta, Pedro, and maybe Messi. It depends on what the "Professor"(As Ibra calls him :LOL:) thinks.

And how about the LB position? Seeing the other players this position seems to be the most lacking quality.
 
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We've got Maxwell, Abidal and Adriano for LB and all of them are good players. We couldn't play with 2 Alves, so we need the LB to be different and more deffensive-oriented, that's why Abidal is great for the job. Maxwell is more skilled and can pass better, but suffers with quick players, while Adriano is still adpating to the team.

About the tall player thing, we need another Larsson. Chamakh would have been great. We need someone who can jump and head the ball and play as target man for those matches in which our opponents put 10 men inside the area (i.e. Inter last year) and refuse to play proper football. In those cases we need a plan B.
 
But it will be very difficult to find another Larsson. To me that is one of the most underrated players in football history. In a fair football world, this guy should have won the Golden Ball at least once. His problem was that he stayed too long with Celtic. I still remember the way most English people on this forum laughed with Larsson until he played for Barcelona and (later) for Man Utd.

Larsson did not have the spectacular style of Van Basten but IMO he was as good as Van Basten and Ronald.He was more of a team player, wheras (both) Ronaldo('s) is (are) individualistic. He was the most important player in Barcelona's CL win against Arsenal under Rijkaard. Great, great player. Today i honestly don't see forwards like him. Eto'o comes close, but Larsson was better.
 
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gerd said:
But it will be very difficult to find another Larsson. To me that is one of the most underrated players in football history. In a fair football world, this guy should have won the Golden Ball at least once. His problem was that he stayed too long with Celtic. I still remember the way most English people on this forum laughed with Larsson until he played for Barcelona and (later) for Man Utd.

Larsson did not have the spectacular style of Van Basten but IMO he was as good as Van Basten and Ronald.He was more of a team player, wheras (both) Ronaldo('s) is (are) individualistic. He was the most important player in Barcelona's CL win against Arsenal under Rijkaard. Great, great player. Today i honestly don't see forwards like him. Eto'o comes close, but Larsson was better.
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Absolutely agreed Gerd, I've stated many many times in this thread alone how awesome was Larsson. He was key on winning the CL at 34 and having a broken ligament injury the season before. Being myself with the same injury now at 36, I can only admire him even more seeing what he achieved.

Larsson is the kind of player that I love. He was not particularly skilled, but he had a great football IQ (to use an NBA term I like). He is the kind of player you always need to win a title, even if he's not in the highlights. I see some resemblance to Larsson in Chamakh, that's why I would have loved him to be here. Though I fear he lacks the vision Larsson had.

Overall, I think positioning and vision are the most underrated attributes of players nowadays. People love the ahtletic type or pure technical skills but tend to ignore the skills that make the team better as a whole.
 
drekkard said:
Overall, I think positioning and vision are the most underrated attributes of players nowadays. People love the ahtletic type or pure technical skills but tend to ignore the skills that make the team better as a whole.
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Pippo Inzaghi ;) All time UEFA top scorer after the match against Real Madrid. I don't think there are many who can beat his motivation and positioning.
 
Yes, that's the kind of player who will always be underrated. He may not be great to watch, but he's always where he's meant to be, and he's a great finisher.

Looking at Milan, your best squads have always been crowded of intelligent players. Rijkaard, Van Basten, Ancellotti, Baresi... with all that incredible grey matter in the pitch, how can you go wrong?
 
I agree about Inzaghi (and the intelligent players Milan has always had). Still i rate Larsson higher then Inzaghi (but that's subjective of course).
 
Afellay still has a lot to prove. He seems a player who could do well with Barcelona but to mhe is still unproven.

Here in Belgium there are rumours that Barcelona is interested in Ajax' Jan Vertonghen. Although this is also an unproven player, i have the feeling that he would be a good buy for Barcelona. He can play LB, CMF, DMF, CB and LMF. To me he is Belgium's biggest talent (bigger talent than Lukaku and Hzard, of course he is older).
 
Afellay is a great long shooter, something we really need, and he can be real quick in the wings, something we also need. I think it's a good signing, specially at that price, and we need some depth bench, so a great move in my oppinion.

Vertonghen would be a great signing too, but I doubt it happens, we have a lot of youth players arriving to those positions and I don't think Guardiola would like to sign someone to block their progression.
 
Milanista said:
Pippo Inzaghi ;) All time UEFA top scorer after the match against Real Madrid. I don't think there are many who can beat his motivation and positioning.
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He scores to Real Madrid even in offside, soccer is very outdated, we need technology at matches, like in basket or tennis
 
As a fan of Real Madrid, i think you should be praying against technology. Real Madrid are one of the most advantaged clubs by "the system".
One only has to look at the way they turned a catastrophous financial situation around with a litle help from their political friends...sports need fair competition.
 
gerd said:
As a fan of Real Madrid, i think you should be praying against technology. Real Madrid are one of the most advantaged clubs by "the system".
One only has to look at the way they turned a catastrophous financial situation around with a litle help from their political friends...sports need fair competition.
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Only to be again, 8 years later, in the same catastrophic situation, owing more than double than what we owe. But hey, they will sell the bernabeu at an absurd price again when the right wing party is in the government, and all spain will pay again for it with our taxes... problem solved!

By the way, Mourinho is finishing the job turning all spain against himself and Madrid with stupid babbling all days. The classico is coming and messi is getting fit. Yesterday he scored 2 again. He's so good I can't even believe it.

PS: What a shameful ref yesterday at the stadium against Villareal. Lots of wrong decisions for both teams. I can't understand how someone like that man can be a professional ref.
 
That's why i am a big fan of Platini drekkard.
It isn't fair that club like Real Madrid (and Barcelona too, i'm afraid) that has lots of debts can continue to to buy galacticos while other (litle but financial healthy clubs) could never buy those players. Platini wants to change that and that is very good for football.
Sports need fair competition. For an outsider like me, it seems as Spain is against fair competition. Look at all the drugs in cyclism and the way COntador and Valverde are protected...look also at Real now. Maybe this is only an image that i have...i sincerely hope that this isn't the truth. But at least this is not good for Spain's image.
 
Yes, gerd, you know I completely agree with you, both in cyclism and in everything else. That's why I love the concepts behind the NBA rules, even if in a more "fair" system, there are still big teams that tend to dominate.
 
I'm also a big fan of the way organize their sports.
Of vourse there is domination (that isthe nature of sports) but the nomination in American sports.
As a recent histroy freak i've read a lot.
The way Real Madrid has dominated European (an Spanish) football can hardly be called fair.
I've also problems with AC Milan since Berlusconi took over. At times staggering beautiful football but there is an aspect of cheating which ruins it all form (that's also the reason why i never will like Juventus again, i simply don't trust them).
I'm a big Ajax fan, the way they ruled European football with youth players and the way they continue to find good young players suits me more. But even that aspect is not always ethical...look at the way Afrincan or South American young players are exploited sometimes.

That's also the reason why i like a team like Sporting Lisboa...they keep on developing good youth players.
Of course this is also the case for Barcelona.
 
"That [agreeing personal terms] is definitely going to take some time," Jansen told Sports Promotion's official website.

"There is certainly no final agreement. When the time comes we will notify the media and the fans through our website."
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Not just yet !
 
Where would Özil have fit into your system? He doesn't have the positional nous, nor the defensive abilities to fit into central midfield and would have been wasted out wide.
 
As an Iniesta replacement. I tell you something. Everyone talks about how good Iniesta is. But listen to this, he's a brilliant guy with good skills, but he's one of the less productive guys I've seen. I like him, but h'es averaging 4 goals and 4 assists per year. For someone who spends a lot of time in dangerous positions, the numbers are a bit small. I would have liked someone like Ozil there, he would be maybe less brilliant but more productive, and should allow us to put Iniesta a little backwards, to the midfield with Xavi.

That way, we would have a lot more possible combination of players. Iniesta can perfectly play in Xavi's position. Afellay position will surely be left winger, so Villa can play as striker more matches.
 
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