FC Barcelona Thread

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From this angle is not visible the touch but from other angles its very visible that Ramos touches Neymar leg and make him fall.
 
I'm neutral as well so we're on equal footing in this department.

There is contact, and Neymar falls. Neymar is looking in the other direction so even if it's something Neymar does on purpose it's still a penalty and not a dive. It's sneaky and dubious perhaps, if he does on purpose, but a fair penalty and correct red card. Ramos' knee hits Neymar and that's that. Doesn't really matter for whatever reason Neymar decided to run like that, the rules are clear. Suarez is doing this on a weekly basis so I would've thought you were much more appreciative towards such a beauty dive if it actually was one.

If you claim to "know for sure" that Neymar planned this move and managed to stretch his leg without being too obvious, then I'd suggest you apply for TV quiz involving a lot of money because then you're a bonafide mind reader.

Kanouté said:
why ramos jumps up there is beyond me though...
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He jumps to avoid crashing into Neymar and nearly succeed but all that's needed is a little touch and the rules are clear.
 
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No matter what happened, Real lost. That is the only thing that mattered. Real are IMO a club that stands for everything that is wrong with football. I hope Atletico can win La Liga.
 
jonnyluvrod said:
Oh and Neymar is an awful player.
Barca have 4 or 5 much better players in reserve.
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Can you name them?


Lami said:
Well, to me it looks like Neymar wanted Ramos off and he succeeded.
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I don't think Ramos tried to clip Neymar's leg but it doesn't change the fact that it happened. Crossing in front of a defender is a fairly cookie cutter deal for a striker, A) You get past and have a clear cut chance B) You get clipped or likewise C) Slowing down just at the right moment can provoke scenario B but it's still not a dive. If anything it's smart. Had not Neymar done this, I am fairly confident that Real Madrid would've won the match.
 
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ZeroTheHero said:
Can you name them?




I don't think Ramos tried to clip Neymar's leg but it doesn't change the fact that it happened. Crossing in front of a defender is a fairly cookie cutter deal for a striker, A) You get past and have a clear cut chance B) You get clipped or likewise C) Slowing down just at the right moment can provoke scenario B but it's still not a dive. If anything it's smart. Had not Neymar done this, I am fairly confident that Real Madrid would've won the match.
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This. Clear penalty, like it or not. As I say in the La Liga thread, the physical reaction of Neymar left leg is impossible to achieve voluntarily, you need impact.

Of course Neymar forces the situation, that's what forwards do. If anything, it's Ramos fault. He should have stopped before comitting contact and he knows it. That's why he didn't moan about the penalty in the pitch, only against the color of the card. This truly speaks for itself.
 
Pedro and Alexis are both better players in my opinion.
Maybe 4 or 5 other players was overstated on my part but I don't rate Neymar at all.

Doesn't mean I'm right, it's just an opinion.

He's certainly not worth what they paid for him as a player. He will generate his worth back through marketing his image but not through his talent on the pitch.

Maybe he will become amazing over the next few years and I'm talking nonsense!
 
To say Neymar doesn`t look the part might be the price tag around his services. Players rarely make a 100% impact in their 1st season. I`ve seen Neymar before Barca and he is a very good player. When and how he would with Barca is another thing. Yesterday game imo was about speed (counter-attack)it was less technical then I ever remember. These clasico could do w/o penalties and red cards . Its seems to be the main talking points :YAWN: at least the ref send off the right player.
 
Maybe neymar is overpriced at this moment but in the next years he Will definitely worth what Barça paid for him. I think he was playing very very good before he gets injuried :)
 
I think Neymar will evolve into a great player in the next seasons, he started the season very well but the main problem for him is his condition. This guy is just 22 and has been 4 years without holidays playing the whole year week in week out. He feels physically burned out, tired.

Yesterday, for example, he had 2 chances in which he clearly was too tired at the end to shoot properly to goal and was slow.

It doesn't help that Barcelona play in a very specific style that you need some time to get used to it (unless you've been schooled since being a child like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta...).

And it doesn't help that he has played in 4 different positions and has suffered 2 injuries during the season.

It's overpriced because all players are ridiculously overpriced, and because with the same money we could have players we needed more, like a decent CB and a DMF who can compete with Xavi and Busquets.

But, I have all the faith in this guy, he's promising and has that special something only certain players have. He just needs to rest, get fit and get more minutes in the same position. I think it was a fantastic signing that will pay off in the long term.

And that said, Pedro played much much better than him lately ;)
 
I was annoyed with Neymar and cesc they seemed sloppy and lost the ball in key areas.

Be it fatigue or whatever they seem a liability to me compared to what we have on the bench. I woukd have started with the same lineup as Osasuna

Having said this Neymar is very different to Alexis he is very interchangeable with Messi compared to Alexis who tends to hog the right touchline and in turn causes Messi to either play conventional upfront role making him and us predictable.
 
zeemeister said:
I was annoyed with Neymar and cesc they seemed sloppy and lost the ball in key areas.

Be it fatigue or whatever they seem a liability to me compared to what we have on the bench. I woukd have started with the same lineup as Osasuna

Having said this Neymar is very different to Alexis he is very interchangeable with Messi compared to Alexis who tends to hog the right touchline and in turn causes Messi to either play conventional upfront role making him and us predictable.
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What? Cesc is an amazing player! No words to describe him, he is just amazing!

And i don't know if you remember Alexis when he arrive Barcelona... There is always an adaptation period in Barcelona because its a style of football very different comparing to the other clubs.
 
The problem of Cesc is that he plays much better as a false nine, the position of Messi, so he ends up wasting a lot of time in deep midfield, which doesn't suit him too much considering how Barcelona hardly has lots of space upfront.

The best 2 traits of Cesc are vision/through passing and arriving from the second line and finish. Both are harder to do when Messi is on the pitch and we're playing static attack, which is 90% of the time.

That's the reason why Cesc played superbly well during the 2 months Messi was injured, leading the team in assists.

The moment Cesc goes back to play as "Xavi", he reduces its performance level dramatically, because he's not fast enough to play there as well as Xavi. Sometimes he needs too many touches of the ball to turn and play.

But if Xavi and Iniesta had never existed, Cesc would be considered good at that. So, Cesc is an awesome player that won't perform at his best unless someone gets injured or the team starts playing counters and he can start delivering his best with killer passing.
 
Not a bad analysis, drekkard. I think Barcelona should try to expand their repertoire to include counter attacks on a regular basis. Celtic has shown how Barcelona's "predictability" in attack can be their achilles heel so a little more variation which will also bring a player like Fabregas more into the groove wouldn't hurt them in any scenario.
 
drekkard said:
The problem of Cesc is that he plays much better as a false nine, the position of Messi, so he ends up wasting a lot of time in deep midfield, which doesn't suit him too much considering how Barcelona hardly has lots of space upfront.

The best 2 traits of Cesc are vision/through passing and arriving from the second line and finish. Both are harder to do when Messi is on the pitch and we're playing static attack, which is 90% of the time.

That's the reason why Cesc played superbly well during the 2 months Messi was injured, leading the team in assists.

The moment Cesc goes back to play as "Xavi", he reduces its performance level dramatically, because he's not fast enough to play there as well as Xavi. Sometimes he needs too many touches of the ball to turn and play.

But if Xavi and Iniesta had never existed, Cesc would be considered good at that. So, Cesc is an awesome player that won't perform at his best unless someone gets injured or the team starts playing counters and he can start delivering his best with killer passing.
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Agree 100% he is so much slower in xavis role
 
Spanish FA, FC Barcelona sanctioned for international transfers of minors

The Disciplinary Committee regarded the infringements as serious and decided to sanction the club with a transfer ban at both national and international level for two complete and consecutive transfer periods, together with a fine of CHF 450,000. Additionally, the club was granted a period of 90 days in which to regularise the situation of all minor players concerned.
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http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/organ...003/index.html?intcmp=newsreader_news_caption
 
nothing to worry about. barca still can sign players for free, or players who broke up their contract to become free just to join barca(and pay their fee to their original club for the braking up their contract). free signings are not related to transfer period
 
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