ALBICELESTE2010
Champions League
Re: England Thread - "Hoof it Son, flick it on and we'll win this!"
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you lo zio.
Yes the officials are human. The abuse they receive is disgusting and unfair. If they all decided to call it a day and who could blame them (with managers blaming them all the time instead of their players and themselves and making all sorts of nasty insinuations about them and idiots making death threats) there would be no game at all.
However as viwers we can all see what is going on from multiple angles and with super slow mo.
They need to be given some form of technological support similar to the fourth umpire in cricket who can quickly make a judgement on a match changing decision ie penalty or sending off.
Of course it isn't perfect. In cricket there are situations where one cannot be entirely certain the ball has been caught or in rugby that the ball has been grounded on or over the tryline but it certainly as in tennis has improved the accuracy of decisions and even added some spice to the games as spectators watch the outcome.
Of course football is a fast flowing game and one would need these reviews so to speak only for critical during the match decisions.
Technology can certainly help the ball over the line decisions, offsides if it were to be implemented.
The nay sayers say that football should be the same whether it is a lowly non league affair or the WC final. But where could we find the extra officials and technology for all grounds ?
It should be reserved at the very least for all qualifiers, continental finals, club cups domestic and international and the top division of each nation (certainly those that are wealthy enough to do so).
Gradually the culture would change and see the positive impact of the technology. Football has always changed to an extent from the kit, to the balls, to fitness and tactics. This would just be another addition on that road of evolution.
As for timings. They should use the system in rugby where the clock stops for a dead ball. So much time is being lost and I would also like to see a proper clock counter for the time for susbstutions.
Too many times it seems that the value of added on time is an arbritary figure. And the clock should be run independently of the referee taking at least one burden off him.
Finally this retrospective punishment has to come in.
Many parents are taking their children away from football because of the way authority figures are treated, the open disrespect, the greed and the variety of corruption scandals that have taken place.
Once swingeing punishments come in for the cheats instead of managers openly allowing their players or encouraging them to con the referee they'll be doing the opposite.
It's not impossible to win the right way. Brian Clough acheived it playing passing football and fining his players if they argued with the officials.
And that after he was cheated twice by Juventus and Anderlecht.
indeed. i don't even remember the last time we met before italia '90
what do u reckon will be the starting formation?
as for the technology discussion, it is indeed an extremely intriguing topic and i believe there are very valid arguments both pro and against technology in football.
personally i wouldn't want to implement technology aids ifor the referees.... at least i'm against most of em. but i'm not against goal-line technology (to prevent those goal\no goal situations).
i won't explain my arguments, as it would take too much time (besides i've already written about it in the past, somewhere in this forum), but to make it very short, i don't think technology would solve as many problems as most people seem to believe.... and i also believe it would bring a whole new set of problems... much more serious problems, wich may well turn out to be critical for the survival of this game as we know it.
i also believe a much more important problem to address is the culture of suspicion and hartred that permeates football fans and media theese days.
it's our mindset, our approach to sport that must change. until we'll learn to accept mistakes (even referees' mistakes) as part of the game, the drama and the heated discussions around football won't drop..... God himself might come down on earth and tell us that was an offside or a foul.... and we will still argue about it, we will still try and find stupid reasons to support our (often biased) arguments. everything, rather than accepting the result (wich ironically should be the first lesson we should learn from sport).
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you lo zio.
Yes the officials are human. The abuse they receive is disgusting and unfair. If they all decided to call it a day and who could blame them (with managers blaming them all the time instead of their players and themselves and making all sorts of nasty insinuations about them and idiots making death threats) there would be no game at all.
However as viwers we can all see what is going on from multiple angles and with super slow mo.
They need to be given some form of technological support similar to the fourth umpire in cricket who can quickly make a judgement on a match changing decision ie penalty or sending off.
Of course it isn't perfect. In cricket there are situations where one cannot be entirely certain the ball has been caught or in rugby that the ball has been grounded on or over the tryline but it certainly as in tennis has improved the accuracy of decisions and even added some spice to the games as spectators watch the outcome.
Of course football is a fast flowing game and one would need these reviews so to speak only for critical during the match decisions.
Technology can certainly help the ball over the line decisions, offsides if it were to be implemented.
The nay sayers say that football should be the same whether it is a lowly non league affair or the WC final. But where could we find the extra officials and technology for all grounds ?
It should be reserved at the very least for all qualifiers, continental finals, club cups domestic and international and the top division of each nation (certainly those that are wealthy enough to do so).
Gradually the culture would change and see the positive impact of the technology. Football has always changed to an extent from the kit, to the balls, to fitness and tactics. This would just be another addition on that road of evolution.
As for timings. They should use the system in rugby where the clock stops for a dead ball. So much time is being lost and I would also like to see a proper clock counter for the time for susbstutions.
Too many times it seems that the value of added on time is an arbritary figure. And the clock should be run independently of the referee taking at least one burden off him.
Finally this retrospective punishment has to come in.
Many parents are taking their children away from football because of the way authority figures are treated, the open disrespect, the greed and the variety of corruption scandals that have taken place.
Once swingeing punishments come in for the cheats instead of managers openly allowing their players or encouraging them to con the referee they'll be doing the opposite.
It's not impossible to win the right way. Brian Clough acheived it playing passing football and fining his players if they argued with the officials.
And that after he was cheated twice by Juventus and Anderlecht.
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Agreed but luck is for losers Ben
