eFootball PES 2021 Discussion Thread (CONSOLES)

normazimuth said:
I suspect they do - see .

CPU has a corner but as soon as it loses the ball, watch the white shirts retreat, even though one of their guys is still pressuring the ball in the box, with 2 team-mates nearby on the right wing to cross it back in if he wins the ball back. But I'm not expecting fundamental rewrites to the tactics as part of their 0.1% changes.

That video does look pretty good at times, seems to be less AI awareness issues - too hard to tell if the gameplay has really been been "fixed" without playing.

I guess the demo will be available as the Lite version, later in the year.

For me, a fixed version of 2020 would be great, even with the tactical issues.
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Defences do, yeah. Constantly backing off, no midfield yo speak of do constant passes into frontline.

Game looks stretched across entire length of pitch, which looks way too big too...
 
FShas said:
Defences do, yeah. Constantly backing off, no midfield yo speak of do constant passes into frontline.

Game looks stretched across entire length of pitch, which looks way too big too...
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PES never had midfield play to be honest.
In the PS2 days there was "midfield" since you had 8 directions to move, that made you feel limited to move the players and ball around.
Im not saying its fine, something should be done about that yes, but its not really a PES thing.
 
normazimuth said:
I suspect they do - see .

CPU has a corner but as soon as it loses the ball, watch the white shirts retreat, even though one of their guys is still pressuring the ball in the box, with 2 team-mates nearby on the right wing to cross it back in if he wins the ball back. But I'm not expecting fundamental rewrites to the tactics as part of their 0.1% changes.

That video does look pretty good at times, seems to be less AI awareness issues - too hard to tell if the gameplay has really been been "fixed" without playing.

I guess the demo will be available as the Lite version, later in the year.

For me, a fixed version of 2020 would be great, even with the tactical issues.
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Fake PES 2021 PC gameplay, this one is just PES 2020 with graphic menu mod. Published on "13 Sep 2020" yet the game isn't out yet on PC.

I know it's a BS as soon i saw messi with beard.

Here's the scoreboard that video is using https://www.reantech.xyz/2020/08/pes-2020-scoreboard-pes-2021-mod-by.html
 
normazimuth said:
I suspect they do - see .

CPU has a corner but as soon as it loses the ball, watch the white shirts retreat, even though one of their guys is still pressuring the ball in the box, with 2 team-mates nearby on the right wing to cross it back in if he wins the ball back. But I'm not expecting fundamental rewrites to the tactics as part of their 0.1% changes.

That video does look pretty good at times, seems to be less AI awareness issues - too hard to tell if the gameplay has really been been "fixed" without playing.

I guess the demo will be available as the Lite version, later in the year.

For me, a fixed version of 2020 would be great, even with the tactical issues.
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come on, this video is obviously fake
first look at messi and griezmann faces, they don't get new faces
then look at the mini faces of the players, they are from modded 2020 LOL
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
PES never had midfield play to be honest.
In the PS2 days there was "midfield" since you had 8 directions to move, that made you feel limited to move the players and ball around.
Im not saying its fine, something should be done about that yes, but its not really a PES thing.
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I remember pes 3, if you attacked without sufficient numbers youd get swallowed by opposition midfield...

But yeah, pes has often relied on defences to keep games tight. But I dont remember midfield being as open as pes 2020 much
 
FShas said:
I remember pes 3, if you attacked without sufficient numbers youd get swallowed by opposition midfield...

But yeah, pes has often relied on defences to keep games tight. But I dont remember midfield being as open as pes 2020 much
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Playing through lot of old PES titles you can almost always pass the ball to your striker anytime from the defence. It just makes no sense as he barely can move or trap the ball since the DFs tackle him right away. That makes you rather play around.
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
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I noticed that Bryan usually have the same taste for PES as i do and he surely not a suck up....still cant believe this. And even if its true probably its only the PS4 vanilla disc version again without updates, kits.:LMAO:
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Where is the cpu properly dribbling? I've watched a decent chunk of videos yesterday and mostly saw just the generic immediate movements to give away the ball half a second later. Anyone feel free to point me towards videos that show something significantly different than the past season.
 
normazimuth said:
I suspect they do - see .

CPU has a corner but as soon as it loses the ball, watch the white shirts retreat, even though one of their guys is still pressuring the ball in the box, with 2 team-mates nearby on the right wing to cross it back in if he wins the ball back. But I'm not expecting fundamental rewrites to the tactics as part of their 0.1% changes.

That video does look pretty good at times, seems to be less AI awareness issues - too hard to tell if the gameplay has really been been "fixed" without playing.

I guess the demo will be available as the Lite version, later in the year.

For me, a fixed version of 2020 would be great, even with the tactical issues.
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That video is a modded PES 2020...
 
Madmac79 said:
Where is the cpu properly dribbling? I've watched a decent chunk of videos yesterday and mostly saw just the generic immediate movements to give away the ball half a second later. Anyone feel free to point me towards videos that show something significantly different than the past season.
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Havent seen any evidence to ai dribbling either in these vids.
 
normazimuth said:
I suspect they do - see .

CPU has a corner but as soon as it loses the ball, watch the white shirts retreat, even though one of their guys is still pressuring the ball in the box, with 2 team-mates nearby on the right wing to cross it back in if he wins the ball back. But I'm not expecting fundamental rewrites to the tactics as part of their 0.1% changes.

That video does look pretty good at times, seems to be less AI awareness issues - too hard to tell if the gameplay has really been been "fixed" without playing.

I guess the demo will be available as the Lite version, later in the year.

For me, a fixed version of 2020 would be great, even with the tactical issues.
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That's PES 2020. There's no physical PC version. Also, you can see that Chelsea is "licensed" (modded) and Messi still has his beard. All he did was put 2021 in the title in an attempt to get views.
 

Defending..Notice how my defender doesn’t freeze..I’m also able to perfectly time the tackle.There’s no player freezing/locking.Like 20.

long ball that I latch onto..Refs gives a instant yellow!!
 
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StrangelyEnough said:
Your teammates off the ball are always actively trying to break play up..It’s just perfect in every way..They’ve done so much fine tuning on everything..

They listened and they sorted all pes20’s issues..

This is as good as pes on the ps2(full stop)..

The defending now is sublime as is player awareness..

Im using manual shooting and paO..AI is brilliant..

Like I’ve said previously optimisation and continuity..This is pes 20 polished within a inch of its life..All the frustrations are gone..
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You can't polish a turd! If people are still raving about it in December I might think about it.... Until then it's 16-18 for me
 
100% agree with this guy.
hope they fix somegameplay and refeeree for launching tommorow.
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@officialpes dear konami, you just transfer same game and same engine pes2020 to pes 2021. but you do not let us transfer pes2020 MyClub to pes2021 MyClub. what a big deal...

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StrangelyEnough said:

Defending..Notice how my defender doesn’t freeze..I’m also able to perfectly time the tackle.There’s no player freezing/locking.Like 20.

long ball that I latch onto..Refs gives a instant yellow!!
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yeah I mean apart from the second one looks like a good tackle to me...

refs still broken
 
Ximelez said:
yeah I mean apart from the second one looks like a good tackle to me...

refs still broken
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No the refs are great..Clean tackle on the first one and I was fouled by the cpu because I was through on a long ball from the wing on the second video(that was the yellow card).

You can tackle cleanly now..The collision system works.

Everything has been fine tuned and as I’ve said pes20 just needed a lot more work..It’s telling especially in this iteration.

I’ve not been bigging up pes20..I just saw what it could be..and pes21 is that fleshed out game..

Is it vindication no..Because I think we all shaped this into the game it is now..Just no community meddling at the beta or demo stage..and again it’s telling...

They keeped it quiet for a reason this is the swan song for this generation.
 
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I can't believe they STILL haven't fixed the AI behaviour in Cup games!

International Cup - Brazil (user) vs Scotland (AI), 60 minutes 0-0 aaaand the AI goes to max attack level, CB playing up front! What a load of rubbish, three years it's been like this, ruins Cup games in ML and League mode and still it's not fixed. Konami really don't give a toss about offline do they, utter chancers.
 
We'll be able to verify/judge any gameplay improvements for ourselves soon enough.

The thing is, if there are improvements, then Konami have been very poor (to say the least) in publicising them.
I can't quite believe that they wouldn't have hyped things (even a little), whereas from where I'm sitting, they've done the reverse!

But then this is Konami we're talking about.
 
Nacho10 said:
I can't believe they STILL haven't fixed the AI behaviour in Cup games!

International Cup - Brazil (user) vs Scotland (AI), 60 minutes 0-0 aaaand the AI goes to max attack level, CB playing up front! What a load of rubbish, three years it's been like this, ruins Cup games in ML and League mode and still it's not fixed. Konami really don't give a toss about offline do they, utter chancers.
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Yeah the all attack thing every time you are level in a cup game at about 60 minutes is a laugh. You can be Liverpool playing against Cardiff and they will go all attack at 60 minutes. That nonsense has won me a fair share of cup games.
 
Nacho10 said:
I can't believe they STILL haven't fixed the AI behaviour in Cup games!

International Cup - Brazil (user) vs Scotland (AI), 60 minutes 0-0 aaaand the AI goes to max attack level, CB playing up front! What a load of rubbish, three years it's been like this, ruins Cup games in ML and League mode and still it's not fixed. Konami really don't give a toss about offline do they, utter chancers.
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It has been this way for years unfortunately, have people not presented this to them enough?
 
I think even a polished 2020 in 2021 is still not what we are all after the difficulty handicapping is way too obvious in gameplay offline theres about 6 or 7 incidents in each match which leave you going wtf!?! I mean sure it was there in previous games but it subtle and you could mostly over power it but 2020 is like playing vs 11 AI terminators and your own players had their legs and brains hit with a cricket bat before they enter the pitch
 
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