You’ve just summed up my exact feelings mate. I simply can’t put my finger on it but scoring goals in PES has felt ‘empty’ for years now (for me).
Clubs? Really? Surely they just mis-translated it from Japanese, but... Imagine if it actually were as they said.
There are several points. Every shoot is like a rocket. You have less variety then PS2 era (I think e.g. R1 was a low lob ball). You can’t really place the ball where you want. Less deflections inside the box/crazy situations. Edit: Less stat based, like said above.
I'm not saying it wasn't varied. I just mean that any player over about 85 shot power was like a bullet.
I'm not saying it wasn't varied. I just mean that any player over about 85 shot power was like a bullet.
Viera was insanely good at scoring from the halfway line and he only had around 85 or less.
Goals like this were "average shot power"
. Like the Iron Man analogy above, or the halfway line comment that make it sound like every shoot you made with an 85 player in Pes 5 from the halfway would result in a goal.. which of course wasn't the case .
Wait a minute...Sounds like burnout more than anything else.
Too much of a good thing? I've spent two decades playing strategy games but just can't go near them at the moment.
Genuinely think this would make a huge difference to PES. If the full game doesn't break the gameplay then I'm sure a lot of players would be happy to have something that's largely the same for 20201 if alongside that was a real spectacular atmosphere.
I wait for the day when the crowd noises are incredible. You hear fans drumming at Dortmund, whistles at Madrid, silence at Arsenal
It's just a joke...Look, I like a lot of what you write, but sometimes you tend to bring concepts to extremes that just aren't there and honestly it doesn't help discussion
Btw yes, we can agree that shooting was on the powerful side more often than not (as it was more or less in many old gen Pes) . It's just that it has three values that used to all influence the outcome and it felt pretty deep regardless.
I'd say general satisfaction in scoring was something that that era is still unparalleled in, even tho in this demo I'm scoring every kind of goal (headers, tap ins, long shoots, confusing actions) and it's surely better than 2019.
I'd never seen anything like it before, or since.
That looks dreadful. What on earth is going on with the animations of the player crossing the ball. If anything weird animations take away the feeling from scoring goals as it takes away any realism you want from the game.
I know this isn't the comparison thread, but look how the players just don't react to each other. They're just ghosting around the pitch. Look how many tackles don't even have an animation, they just walk into them and take the ball. I love PES's physicality compared to this. It's miles and miles ahead. Yes, holding off players is OP, but at least it's in the game! No one stops for even a second in this video.
Im not finding that at all. Maybe you are waiting until your always in the perfect postion to shoot? Ive hit loads of miss hits, scuffs just by the post, loads of row Z shots and even hit the corner flags quite a number of times.
I've edited them all in PES 2019 taking -20 off in specific areas. That worked and made them more human like. I might have to do the same for 2020 again. It's a big job, but whatever.
I do agree, this started in pes 2016 and onwards, there is less scuffed shots, crazy stuff happening inside the area, and add to that how the shots have less variations,i have previously posted a clip of some goals i scored in pes 2013, where u can see how shots were much more varied, keepers more human like, more human like reactions and the way the gameplay felt once ur inside the area, happens that Goalkeepers have like a predetermined locked thing with the shot being taken, it is less in pes 2020 but it s still there, i can definitely tell that i struggled a lot in the old pes to score shots and get shots on target from outside the box, since pes 2016 the shots are automated on basic shooting and i started to get so many shots on target and it was easier tbh to shoot from outside the area because this was when they catered to the new kids the way basic shooting was designed , even the passing, it just feels too easy to pass around the ball even if a player plays it for the first time, this is why pa3 is just too much,shouldn t be there in the game
We need that from u lami,ur our only hope mate
The other game provides this,only if pes does this...Sounds like burnout more than anything else.
Too much of a good thing? I've spent two decades playing strategy games but just can't go near them at the moment.
Genuinely think this would make a huge difference to PES. If the full game doesn't break the gameplay then I'm sure a lot of players would be happy to have something that's largely the same for 2021 if alongside that was a real spectacular atmosphere.
I wait for the day when the crowd noises are incredible. You hear fans drumming at Dortmund, whistles at Madrid, silence at Arsenal
This is why I always wanted a global editor/slider, so we can edit a specific stat just once for every player, instead of having to do it 500 times :|
If all these new national teams are also playable in BAL and ML and finally the european qualifiers for EURO and for WORLD CUP include groups of more than 4 teams, then I am sold. I still hope for news about a new regen system but being a big fan of national teams, for me this is already a step in the right direction.After Bielorussia licence, it's Gibraltar and Azerbaijan
I'm not saying it wasn't varied. I just mean that any player over about 85 shot power was like a bullet.
Viera was insanely good at scoring from the halfway line and he only had around 85 or less.
Goals like this were "average shot power"
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