@rojofa sincerely i don't understand your hate about PES 2021.
You tend to over exagerate when it cames to that game. To me it's the best iteration since PES6 and i'm not joking.
So say what you want but to me you're totally off. And for you i'll be totally off too, The_Knight who spend 500 hours on this game too.
And for playing it, i totally disagree about the midfield, all depends to the way you play and the formations, advanced (or not) tactics.
It's for a reason i think. It's because the game worth it, and he shows it to us. Liking or not is not an issue, but he can show on X part on your vids that you're wrong about many suspicions about that game as you didn't played it as much / But i completely understand if it's a matter of physics.
Pes 2017, for example, is by far less advanced in terms of movement and turning etc. regarding real life phyics, you can deny it as it's objective. And that's one thing that is linked both to physics but also to "what do you want to see in a game, more reactivity even if it defy physics and doable stuffs, or more realism while moving even if you got to wait the end of the movement and loss reactivity?"
To me, it's 90% the second option.
Well it's a matter of taste. PES 5 is the favorite because they makes the good compromise. Like someone said, the control when a pass is difficult and slowing down the team to advance : it's something that you can see in certain circumstances on PES 2021 for example, but with the 360 degree movement and passing power, bigger pitch and totally different engine, the algorithm as completely changed. I played retro those last day and i remind how "restricted" we were before, and why the shoots were going often completely out when you got only 5 directions, from up to down + diagonals, but also shooting back to goal, you have to put a quick direction or it's straight on the middle or totally over the ball.
But sometimes, restrictions = calibration. You can have the total control of your game, only ball physics were completely unpredictable especially for shoot (ball were all laser guided and no rebound, but no problem the pitch was pretty small: long laser guided pass was super rare as pass where all middle/short.
And all those thing maked the game really fun and nothing exagerated. Well there's way other reasons but that's what i noticed after long sessions. And i will continue : i have fun with it, even PES 6, i got completely normal score, but not the big pass > hard control on. Just saying you can also see it on PES 2011 i think... Lee but more than in PES 2017 or PES 2013.
Like PES 2008 PS2. Very great game and it could rivalise with PES5/WE9... Because variety for a 8 directionnal game as reached the highest level i believe, but well... I still prefers PES5 than this one, even if it's less free. Well WE9 is the pinnacle to me so untouchable in terms of balance. FAR less direct passes than PES 5, midfield is the more involved in the series.
