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Perhaps the person in the video just got things mixed up a bit and was actually talking about PES2022 Lite all along... I hope.
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Championship
- 13 July 2020
What did I miss in those 2 days? Why are these apocalyptic moods? What does F2P mean? F*ckedToPay?
P.S. Ohhhh... I found it !! FreeToPlay.. well I was really close, do I?!
If they make PES or who knows how the game will call, F2P that means there will be no more offline modes, like Master League, BAL, or online modes like 11 vs 11 or regular coop?
P.S. Ohhhh... I found it !! FreeToPlay.. well I was really close, do I?!
If they make PES or who knows how the game will call, F2P that means there will be no more offline modes, like Master League, BAL, or online modes like 11 vs 11 or regular coop?
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manmachine
Premier League
- 22 June 2008
F2P? I'd buy a F2P PES, for the first time since PES 17, can't argue with free.
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Ameppe
International
- 23 December 2007
- SSC Napoli
F2P means Pes is all about the online, Myclub and microtransactions.
Probably they would sell offline mode as a separate dlc, but you can clearly see offline won't be a focus anymore. And that's the end of Pes for me.
slamsoze
International
- 28 September 2010
When was offline the focus, after PES 2014?
manmachine
Premier League
- 22 June 2008
This. The game is already F2P quality, focused on microtransactions, with abandoned offline modes, except you somehow still have to buy it. lol.
Ameppe
International
- 23 December 2007
- SSC Napoli
Yeah, i know what you mean. But this time it would be officially announced by Konami. Remember when myclub was just an addition to the main game? Now Myclub is the game and offline mode would be some sort of easter egg.
Sad times.
The worst part is that online doesn't really need a deep gameplay system, so they will adapt online simplistic gameplay to offline too and that will be another reason why the gameplay will have close to zero innovations.
But the whole issue is - if they got the game right, fine, go ahead - obsess over fucking esports rubbish. But get a fantastic football game, with the spirit and verve of PES5, 6 etc., but modern ande ambitious with all the learning of the intervening years and processor power - and you'd get so, so many more players and payments anyway! It's so short sighted if they really are going to cynically get into a model of not bothering with the atual game core much, for the sake of online.
Marlon Anthony
Purist
I might be wrong but isn't this what PES LITE already is?
According to their website, PES LITE is basically PES 2021, with less offline teams, no cups or Master League. It even has an edit mode which surprised me.
https://www.konami.com/wepes/2021/eu/en/ps4/page/lite
The issue I see with this F2P is that it has very few licenses especially for UK players. So I'm assuming with F2P option files go and real kit importing. So now they compete with FIFA with next to zero licenses, no way to import them and no single player game. More people will move to FIFA in my opinion
Agreed. They can't compete with FIFA in pure terms with what FIFA are doing. The only way they could is to simply make a far superior football game. That seems to me to be the piece missing in their thinking, if the supposition is correct. It doesn't take a genius to see they've simply neglected what was once the core of the game for years, but it's done nothing good for them. I wonder if they just care about areas where they, not EA, have the monopoly; ie Japan, Korea etc.
Ameppe
International
- 23 December 2007
- SSC Napoli
I just read Adam's latest tweets and i'm so sad right now. All about Myclub and the spins.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if what we know as PES LITE now is marketed as the main game for 2022 and either we get single player modes as paid add ons or they’re so uncared for/ unworked on that they just chuck them in for free anyway. If the whole game is free, more people will try it and that means potentially more people hooked to myclub so it’s no real loss for Konami I don’t think.
I don’t feel like the rebranding is just for the name sake and that the rebranding is tying in with a whole new strategy, essentially wanting to cut ties with “PES” as we know it.
Makes sense why Konami have and keep pushing for individual club partnerships for the last fews years as you can only use these clubs in their official esports competitions I believe.
Abishek
Conference
- 13 April 2020
And lots of back heel passes😂😂😂
muham_istau
Premier League
Yeah it's kinda sad really 😔
milenec11
Premier League
- 12 August 2003
can someone send here the adam tweet?
Danny Henry
The King is dead.
- 16 September 2013
This is going to be a shot on their own foot. I know that this online modes are very addictive but people that buy new consoles are expecting a high level of graphics and mechanics.
This is the complain here in my country, that consoles still don't have any full next gen game to play.
This is the complain here in my country, that consoles still don't have any full next gen game to play.
Danny Henry
The King is dead.
- 16 September 2013
Or maybe they expend the most of time working on new servers.
Spursfan07
International
- 10 February 2019
This game won't be F2P, only a LITE version will be
How else can they justify having to pay a 30 euros for an season updated version of PES 2020?
How else can they justify having to pay a 30 euros for an season updated version of PES 2020?
janguv
Premier League
- 2 November 2016
From memory, they were all working still.
Jim Sterling calls F2P, ironically, "fee to pay". I think it is the most apt, when you see how these games function.
janguv
Premier League
- 2 November 2016
Ever since this post there's been a lot of concern in here that the game is going in a F2P direction.
To that, I can only say this: the guy says it quite confidently, but doesn't give a source, and I'm not aware of his credentials as some sort of insider. I know the reason it causes concern is because we can picture it, given the Konami (and game industry) general direction for the last 6 years.
But still, it doesn't strike me we have any good reason to believe this guy – any more than, say, Renan Galvani (that notorious bullshit merchant).
janguv
Premier League
- 2 November 2016
Hahahaa holy shit! I just went to his Twitter to check I spelt his name right, and lo and behold, a tweet ten minutes ago:
If he's banging on about it, it's probably fake news.
makes sense really unfortunately.
get the game on the same platform as both mobile, PC and console so its less maintenance, make it free to play to get people hooked and make money through the micro transactions.
Konami don't care about the offline buy once crowd.
get the game on the same platform as both mobile, PC and console so its less maintenance, make it free to play to get people hooked and make money through the micro transactions.
Konami don't care about the offline buy once crowd.
Yeah had high hopes after pes 17 but unfortunately didn’t happen
rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
Been downhill since
2 years just for the servers? I don't think so mate. Maybe I'm the most pessimistic person here in this forum but even I don't think KONAMI will make the game F2P. They made a huge hype, changed the engine and said "taking PES to a whole new level", they couldn't have done all this to make the game F2P . Maybe PES 2022 Lite version will be there in future but I don't think they're gonna make the main game F2P.
cleanslate
Championship
- 27 October 2020
- FC Barcelona
But I think that people usually say that KONAMI does things that doesn't make sense?
If that's the case then why would they do this if it makes sense?
Anyways, PES is not going free to play.. definitely not, only thing that'll be free is the Lite version on PC / Consoles