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[Marreco]

And that is where it still becomes an interesting question legally. Maybe it can be fine depending on how you do it. But it will still depend on multiple factors and still won't guarantee you will not hear from lawyers and get into legal discussions.
And the rule also is the bigger the game/company that would allow it in their game, the more likely for the big football licensors wanting to get a piece of the cake. It is basically a walk on eggshells.

In the end, legal reasoning does not matter at all. Open AI, Anthropic give a shit on copyright. The football leagues sell individual games to various TV providers under the guise of "competition" although exactly the opposite would be competition. When everyone buys all games and actually fight for customers through the best deals. It's always just a matter of power and interest. Tennis Elbow 4 does exactly what you put here as completely banned. There you can load mods directly in the game. This is not to prove that it is not justifiable. If there is someone powerful with interest to sue Tennis elbow 4 it would be possible. What I want to say is that in my opinion it does not matter what you or someone else think is legally correct or interesting.

 

[Jay-Jay 10]

Somehow people might misunderstand what I am saying. I never said it is banned.

I am saying it is understandable.why no big football gaming company will take the risk since the likelihood of legal issues is big. Just remember when EA had to stop selling the World Cup game because of legal issues with Kahn (and how he then wasn't in PES games for a while) or their trouble with Ibrahimovic.

So yes the likeliness of an edit mode coming back or downloadable mods in a football game for now would be very low.

And to use your sentence: it doesn't matter if you think games should be able to do that or if other games do it. The reality is it won't happen in football games in the near future, Konami stated that directly and EA has gotten rid of Creation Centre and never brought it back.

Saying legal reasoning doesn't matter is just weird when that is exactly the reason why none of the companies who are making football games at the moment are doing it.

And it is great for Tennis Elbow if no Tennis organization has sued the makers. It's not the same in football where constantly clubs lawyers are taking actions. Just look up Man United vs Football Manager.

So it is not that no one can try, it is that no one will be willing to take the risk,.at least of the big companies.

But we will again soon in circles as the last time it was discussed. So I will leave it there if you want to discuss more write a DM but this is straying now from efootball away

 

[Marreco]

Somehow people might misunderstand what I am saying. I never said it is banned.

I am saying it is understandable.why no big football gaming company will take the risk since the likelihood of legal issues is big. Just remember when EA had to stop selling the World Cup game because of legal issues with Kahn (and how he then wasn't in PES games for a while) or their trouble with Ibrahimovic.

So yes the likeliness of an edit mode coming back or downloadable mods in a football game for now would be very low.

And to use your sentence: it doesn't matter if you think games should be able to do that or if other games do it. The reality is it won't happen in football games in the near future, Konami stated that directly and EA has gotten rid of Creation Centre and never brought it back.

Saying legal reasoning doesn't matter is just weird when that is exactly the reason why none of the companies who are making football games at the moment are doing it.

And it is great for Tennis Elbow if no Tennis organization has sued the makers. It's not the same in football where constantly clubs lawyers are taking actions. Just look up Man United vs Football Manager.

So it is not that no one can try, it is that no one will be willing to take the risk,.at least of the big companies.

But we will again soon in circles as the last time it was discussed. So I will leave it there if you want to discuss more write a DM but this is straying now from efootball away

You may be right on some points. But and attention only my opinion: the reason why there is no edit mode or no fake leagues like before (PES 6 for example) or offline content, is not one that has anything to do with licensing. The only reason is economic calculation. I can make a ridiculous amount of money with very little effort. Any form of offline/edit content has the potential to pull players out of the casino mode and would cause development costs.