eFootball (All Platforms)

Just wondering what other people see when they close their eyes and imagine PES (assuming it exists) in 100 years.

The year will be 2122 but due to delays it will be known as E-soccer 2057. On the front cover will be Bartholomew Messi, Ian Kane and Gareth Snodgrass. There will only be 14 playable teams in 4 stadiums but editing mode will see the return of shirt number outlines as well as 'Covid/lockdown' mode with authentic empty stadiums and masked stewards etc. Commentary by Richard Keys and Andy Gray, who will have had another new lease of life.
 
I see UFL is rapidly taking all the partner clubs licences and stadiums PES had.
Monaco, Borussia Monchengladbach, Besiktas, Celtic, Rangers, West Ham, Shakhtar Donetsk, Sporting Lisbon are the current ones they got in the bag.

So instead of predicting when are we going to get some official news on E Football 2022, or whatever other hope someone has left, how about we predict the end date announcement for this Konami football game? Or month if its too hard to pin point the week.

I just hope FIFA or UFL somehow someday add something like edit mode for single player so we can continue there from next season, or that someone else joins in. But its been a pleasure guys regardless. Thanks for keeping PES alive maybe longer than it should have been.
 
Pyro said:
But its been a pleasure guys regardless. Thanks for keeping PES alive maybe longer than it should have been.
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The funeral for PES was held the day they announced it was being renamed to eFootball and was a mobile-first game (and it was genuinely lovely to see people returning to the site for the first time in many years, just to share their memories and to say goodbye).

When eFootball was released, with all the horror-show screenshots of players with bulbous eyes and zombie crowds, it was the equivalent of people taking photos of the corpse and uploading them for shock value. Yet some people would say PES was still alive.

So whatever this new "mobile only" announcement is... It's just reiterating what Konami already told us directly a long time ago, but then backtracked on because of the PR battering they took.

Whatever eFootball is (and whether it's good or bad), it's not PES. PES has gone, and so has the vast majority of the fanbase.

I've been on Evo-Web (and active) for over half my life - wow, only just realised that. As things stand, I barely post, because I have no interest in eFootball and reading this thread is just utterly depressing (not the negativity, but the acceptance), and I have to accept football games will never be made for me again.

Nothing mimics the spark of joy I feel when I put an old Pro Evo on, and I swear it's not just nostalgia - it's the gameplay, and the focus on player attributes and the grounding in reality. The proof of that being, there are modern games I play often (e.g. FIFA 16) which get closer to that feeling for me than any game Konami have managed to create since the old days...

TL: DR; there will never be another PES ever again, and I don't think we've all accepted that yet.
 
It's pretty sad that future football will be either a new game (most likely fast paced and Fifa like ) and/or Fifa with its twitchy sliding animations ,which I can't stand anymore.
Or older Pes.
Time to hoard up on old Pes games i guess
 
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I've watched UFL Show with a buddy, absolutely not satisfied... we decide to play an online match PES2021 full manual with mods... oh lord what an epic game...

ive start a little crying if I imagine what Konami could have to create with a real PES2022 Nextgen Version... :LOL:
 
UFL's concept sounds interesting. It looks like a discount FIFA, but that not necessarily a bad thing as long as the gameplay is good. Although the trailer they released today is underwhelming, I think the FUT fetish community will love what UFL has to offer for online players.

I do hope the final result is more impressive than what they had originally conceived. 🤡
 
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UFL's concept sounds interesting. It looks like a discount FIFA, but that not necessarily a bad thing as long as the gameplay is good. Although the trailer they released today is underwhelming, I think the FUT fetish community will love what UFL has to offer for online players.

I do hope the final result is more impressive than what they had originally conceived. 🤡
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The one thing that's good on UFL that its free.

download play if you like it nice
if not just delete .

its look like fifa but you don't need to buy it so ...
 
I play PES every year since ISS PRO 98. I play a lot of games on PES 2021 and eFootball 2022, as you can see from the stats attached. I found too difficult to get used to the new controls, but once I learned to play I'm enjoying eFootball much more than PES games. I encourage you to practice and not to play eFootball like PES and you'll start to love it.


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I play PES every year since ISS PRO 98. I play a lot of games on PES 2021 and eFootball 2022, as you can see from the stats attached. I found too difficult to get used to the new controls, but once I learned to play I'm enjoying eFootball much more than PES games. I encourage you to practice and not to play eFootball like PES and you'll start to love it.


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thanks but I wont play before 1.0.0 release anymore
 
You know what, I have to thank UFL/sTriKerZ inc, because they may be taking the mantel of the most ridiculously promoted football sim away from eFootball.

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Maybe I can even begin to entertain the thought of looking at eFootball again?

Probably not. But maybe...
 
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The funeral for PES was held the day they announced it was being renamed to eFootball and was a mobile-first game (and it was genuinely lovely to see people returning to the site for the first time in many years, just to share their memories and to say goodbye).

When eFootball was released, with all the horror-show screenshots of players with bulbous eyes and zombie crowds, it was the equivalent of people taking photos of the corpse and uploading them for shock value. Yet some people would say PES was still alive.

So whatever this new "mobile only" announcement is... It's just reiterating what Konami already told us directly a long time ago, but then backtracked on because of the PR battering they took.

Whatever eFootball is (and whether it's good or bad), it's not PES. PES has gone, and so has the vast majority of the fanbase.

I've been on Evo-Web (and active) for over half my life - wow, only just realised that. As things stand, I barely post, because I have no interest in eFootball and reading this thread is just utterly depressing (not the negativity, but the acceptance), and I have to accept football games will never be made for me again.

Nothing mimics the spark of joy I feel when I put an old Pro Evo on, and I swear it's not just nostalgia - it's the gameplay, and the focus on player attributes and the grounding in reality. The proof of that being, there are modern games I play often (e.g. FIFA 16) which get closer to that feeling for me than any game Konami have managed to create since the old days...

TL: DR; there will never be another PES ever again, and I don't think we've all accepted that yet.
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ShiT! fcuK! I don't wanna accept this but deep inside I know it's the truth.


All those years, only to end this way.

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I'd consider graphic design to be a hobby of mine, I'm not particularly good at it, but I'm interested in it and find it fun. I see the eFootball 2022 menu get a lot of criticism, and I'm on the same boat, but here's the thing, I actually like a lot of it, the symmetry, simplicity, composition, it's nothing spectacular, but they are mostly fine, even if they look straight out of a mobile app, I especially like having the globe when choosing a club, because it reminds me of PES2011/PES2012, and the kit selection, which is creative and lovely. I always thought that the peak Konami UI was PES2011, it looked sleek and sophisticated, and it baffles me that they never managed to do something quite like it, with the sole exception being PES2012 perhaps. I was bored, so I decided to remake the current main menu using PES2011 as the inspiration for its colors and images, with the background being taken from PES2018 Lite and turned grayscale. I know it's hard to read some of the text, but I feel like that stays true to the original. Overall I think it looks fine, it just goes to show, at least to me, that Konami doesn't even need to mess around with the code regarding the menus, with the main exception being the Game Plan because it's bare bones, odd to use with it being horizontal, and slower than anything I've ever seen, other than that they just need some freelance graphic designer straight out of college to give them some .PNGs to add into the game's files. I can't believe they thought these odd shapes and awful colors were acceptable.
 

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On a different note, more related to gameplay, I've played a few more matches, and they were some of the best I've played on eFootball 2022 so far, all of the positives managed to shine, while the negatives didn't show up much, though I'm avoiding L2/LT on purpose so that might have something to do with it, but 0.9.1 really is an improvement over 0.9.0 in many regards, I barely see any of those odd collisions anymore. I like what they attempted here, on the ball it still feels decent, like you'd expect PES to feel, but sprinting is a lot more punishing, passes are intercepted more easily, there's more passing error even with assists, and it's contextual to what kind of pass you're attempting in regard to body positioning and inertia, and the more manual defending system makes the defensive side of things more interesting and intuitive, with a lot more fouls, though I'm still getting very few free kicks, most fouls are against me, which I don't mind much because I do miss the timing on tackles, I just wish the CPU would do it more often too, either they tackle perfectly or they don't go for the tackle at all, they need to be more aggressive or else we'll continue having few free kicks for the player. I feel that if it was more polished, if the club I support was added already, if they made all settings available so I could play for more than 5 minutes, and if they added some basic modes like a Cup, I'd play this often and enjoy it for what it is, as dreadful as Konami is, I can see there are many people who worked on this that wanted to make something special here.

So, I finally understand the few members here on the forum that defend eFootball 2022, at first was really confusing to me, but now I'm starting to like it a bit too, either way I'm not 100% on board yet. I don't agree with the comparison to PES2014, which I see often. PES2014 still had the name, a physical release, it came with every mode we'd expect, alongside an online mode with no microtransactions at all, every team and settings being available from the get go, it was different. Yes, it was released in an unfinished state, and because of that many of its gameplay qualities and concepts were ignored and eventually removed from the franchise, this can be compared to eFootball 2022, but I don't think it's fair to say that we as a community are making the same mistake or anything like that, because what are we supposed to do? All we can do is say that there are elements that we like and would like to see being kept, if Konami eventually removes it all it won't be our fault, the playerbase is much wider than Evo-Web and I'm sure their main focus is the mobile playerbase, we can't forget their crossplay plans for eFootball. I'd say we need to talk about the things we like on the current build, but not much more than that, we shouldn't defend Konami too much because nothing changes the fact that they ended PES and replaced with eFootball, adopted a F2P microtransactions focused model, with the main plan being crossplay with mobile, they then did a disaster launch and expected us to play it as if we were beta testers, they don't deserve anything from us.

I see a lot of potential in eFootball 2022 when I play it, but that doesn't make me excited, because I saw potential in every single PES for the last decade, especially with the FOX Engine. All of the additions I liked here, that I've mentioned in the opening paragraph, could've been added in any of the installments we had in the last few years, and it probably would've played better than eFootball, they just chose not to do that. I saw a lot of potential in PES2011/PES2012/PES2013, and while I liked them all, I never felt they fulfilled that gameplay style's potential before ditching it. Then came the FOX Engine, and with PES2014/PES2015 I saw an opportunity for Konami to finally surpass their PS2 selves, but they never really did. Konami having potential means little to me nowadays.
 
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