eFootball (All Platforms)

The point about a 90 minutes of football being condensed into 10-15 minutes is a fair one, but even then I think we've been duped into thinking this is the only way a football game should be made.

In a real 90 minute football match, the ball is only actually active in play for ~60 minutes, sometimes much less than that. That's the real benchmark for how long the match duration would have to be in a game to reflect real football so long as the clock stops in dead ball situations (or reverts to "real time"), which has already been the case in every football game I can remember.

An hour per match may seem too long, but especially offline I don't see why you couldn't do that provided you allow saving/loading during matches and/or dropping in and out of simulating the match.

In many other online games, matches can regularly take over 30 mins, sometimes much longer... Dota 2, Battlefield, CS:GO, LOL, R6 Siege etc. People do long sessions in other sims like full length races in motorsport sims, full flights in flight sims etc... Yet football games are always designed around 10-15 minute matches and it's used as an excuse for loads of exaggerated or just plain dumb AI/gameplay. Increase the match duration in current football games and you just get the same hyped up goal fest for longer, not more realistic gameplay suited to longer matches.

In online maybe you would want to shorten it, but even with a match length of 30 minutes, you would effectively be playing as much football as a 45 minute real match. That's probably enough time to have a few goals per match without having to compromise simulation gameplay much.

Anyway this is pointless as no such football sim will ever happen - we're stuck with eFootball designed for people to play on the shitter, and FIFA for skill gap esports to cram in 30 matches per weekend.
 
Jonathan9168 said:
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That is a hammerblow. Spring 2022 can easily become Autumn 2022, and a whole new start for eFootball 2023. And if costs exceed projected revenues, with no fixed endpoint... cancellation of the whole project is a real possibility. It'll be interesting to see if they leave the demo/Beta running as-is until Spring 2022.
 
Wow... lmao

But seriously, to fix the AI and other core gameplay issues is going to take months. 6 months, maybe more. You can't fix all of that in a month or two. And it has to be optimized for PCs and consoles. I don't even think it will be ready by Spring. Autumn, maybe early Winter at the most. And once again, the roadmap is DEAD. A roadmap makes sense when you have nailed down the basics. They haven't, which is why it made no sense to even announce it in the first place.

All of this was avoidable if they had just said we need more time. Most of us would have been ok with it. Many of us understood the difficulties of making a game during a pandemic.

Hopefully this will end all this bullshit about imaginary patches and how Konami is secretly updating the game. What triple A gaming publisher do you know of that "secretly" updates their games without releasing any patch notes? How do you know the game was updated if they don't tell you? "Oh, the passes feel different". How the does that explain anything? Some people can be so dumb and what's worse is you have a youtuber in the pes/fifa community putting out false information about the game being "updated".
 
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So that's pretty much a nail in the coffin to any content creators out there.

Do Konami seriously expect us to play 5 minute matches with 9 teams for the next 6 months? The least they could do is unlock the game time & add some more teams.

In all honesty this disaster should be removed from every & platform deleted from history.

It's time to sell the franchise Konami & let somebody competent have a go with it.
 
Just played a game on the Series X version with the new patch (just under 2gb) and playing FUMA I noticed no difference than before the patch except maybe faster ball movement and L2 toned down.
 
Goldstone said:
I wonder how Bhatti will try & spin his way out of this one?

"The product will do the talking" is what is said just a few weeks ago, wasn't it!?

6 month social media blackout for him now I guess 🤣
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theres only one way you'll know when bhatti approves of pes is the day he continuously sends pics and gameplay videos of his master league journey on a daily basis not once in a blue moon where he signs neymar and you never hear from him again atm action speaks louder than words
 
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