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Konami have a history of not being entirely truthful in regards to past pes game releases, tbh!To be honest, no one knows whats gonna be released around Autumn. It might go any freaking way. Konami are retarded enough to release-mobile graphic trailer. I'm not dreaming, I really do hope that there is way more to be seen than just crappy trailer and strange gameplay test.
I'm sceptical but on the other hand, I dont like that negativity around it and blind assumptions that they are LYING, months before release. Call me a fool but I got some faith in them left.
To be honest, no one knows whats gonna be released around Autumn. It might go any freaking way. Konami are retarded enough to release-mobile graphic trailer. I'm not dreaming, I really do hope that there is way more to be seen than just crappy trailer and strange gameplay test.
I'm sceptical but on the other hand, I dont like that negativity around it and blind assumptions that they are LYING, months before release. Call me a fool but I got some faith in them left.
I am the type of player that will wait and see. Everything said here, whether being negative or being positive is just speculation now. It can be a bad game at release (next gen and current gen) but it can also be a good game. So just wait till end of august. By then we will definitely be able to say more about the "next gen" version of the game.But what does next-gen PES actually mean any more? I don't think it means the same thing as next-gen FIFA. You might end up with PS4-ish graphics and mobile gameplay, and Konami call that next-gen.
Bro just chill, we will see what they will announce at the end of august. You should have realized that the trailer showed different states of the game. So the question must be: Are there different versions of the game or not ? But only Konami can give the answer to that. But surely not you.They are damage controlling hard after that awful trailer and awful product they got on hand. Now they quickly put some shitty effects on the game surely on next gen but it wont look like a next gen game, not even close to FIFA 22...just look at the current state the game is in based on the trailer, you would think within a month they make it next gen if they couldnt do it in two years? Sure....And stating it will be next gen on next gen is lying now. These straight up lies and makes my blood boil seeing people even on twitter eating their words and defending Konami to the teeth. While....they were shown an actual trailer already a week ago or two.
I agree we have to wait, but I do think Konami have given us enough evidence with their past releases for us to make informed guesses at things.I am the type of player that will wait and see. Everything said here, whether being negative or being positive is just speculation now. It can be a bad game at release (next gen and current gen) but it can also be a good game. So just wait till end of august. By then we will definitely be able to say more about the "next gen" version of the game.
I don't think that's fair to say. People routinely say this now, because it's what Reddit Bloke said. But there's no sure evidence he was legit, and increasing evidence he wasn't.Bro just chill, we will see what they will announce at the end of august. You should have realized that the trailer showed different states of the game. So the question must be: Are there different versions of the game or not ? But only Konami can give the answer to that. But surely not you.
Yes, it's potentially a very disingenuous use of the phrase ("next-gen"), but sadly all too common. I didn't play FIFA 21, but I gather it wasn't actually next-gen in any meaningful sense, despite their marketing material indicating it as such. It's part of a larger industry trend, of course, which tries to use new console generations to fuel a gaming boom for as long as it can, despite the fact that you don't generally see developers make use of new hardware capabilities till at least two years in (and fitting with this, we will now have the God of War sequel and HZD sequel on PS5 in 2022, both compatible with 2021, just downscaled graphically).I think you are probably close to being on the money there. "Next-gen" can mean what gamers imagine it to mean, or it can mean "graphics which happen to be running on next-gen hardware", the latter being a bit of a slippery legal-style definition. Though I suspect the abomination we saw in the trailer will be improved upon (it's actually hard to imagine you could make a game look so bad with Unreal on newer consoles, like you'd almost have to go out of your way to accomplish it, even amateur lone developers have produced things that look better). I think a lot of the white knight types are banking on that, they are waiting for some point in the future where there is gameplay footage that looks a bit better than NFG, so they can say "aha, we told you so, next-gen graphics!". Of course even if that turns out to be the case, it's still going to be a game that has to run on a fucking telephone (to borrow a phrase from David Lynch).
Yea ok your right, but thats what i meant with "two different versions of the game". Of course the gameplay scenes were all in the same bad quality but what i noticed, even the cutscenes in the tunnel and in the locker room looked much better than these messi and neymar "gameplay" scenes. Because in this tunnel and locker room scenes things like the shorts are moving/ have movement but in these neymar/messi scenes the shorts were very static and not moving at all. For me thats a hint that there were shown different versions but in the end everyone have to rate it themselves. But the final conclusion can be made not until we know more about the "next gen" versionI don't think that's fair to say. People routinely say this now, because it's what Reddit Bloke said. But there's no sure evidence he was legit, and increasing evidence he wasn't.
We saw in the trailer that certain pre-game scenes looked quite nice. We didn't see different bits of gameplay indicating higher-quality versions of the game.
In fairness, they say "such as" – meaning "including but not exclusive to.."I don't understand!
On the official website it doesn't mention PC being on the same level as PS5 or XBOX SERIES X/S.
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It's all very confusing.
Dones this mean they removed the gacha element. I will be able to buy exactly the player i want instead of being rendom? This would be big if true.
Dones this mean they removed the gacha element. I will be able to buy exactly the player i want instead of being rendom? This would be big if true.
Bro just chill, we will see what they will announce at the end of august. You should have realized that the trailer showed different states of the game. So the question must be: Are there different versions of the game or not ? But only Konami can give the answer to that. But surely not you.
The stadiums in the beginning of the trailer and as i said the tunnel/locker room scenes looked completely different to the gameplay scenes. If you can`t see that than I don`t knowI only saw one game in that trailer, perhaps one player had different hairstyle but thats just a 3d model. The answer to your question as of now: no, there is one version because thats what they showed to us. Why didnt they show that mindblowing next gen game everyone is expecting now because they stated "next gen will be superior to mobile and wont be downgraded"....which is like a big "duh" as it will be higher resolution, it will have some other effects sure...but does that qualify it as a next gen game? Thing is they showed a mobile game/very ugly next gen game, then did this press release which is just as vague as it can be and people read way too much into it, even ignoring reality what they saw recently.
This situation is exactly like when you try to convince a friend that the significant other they are choosing is a very poor decision but they over cloud nine already because they got treated well one day a month.
The stadiums in the beginning of the trailer and as i said the tunnel/locker room scenes looked completely different to the gameplay scenes. If you can`t see that than I don`t know
The stadiums in the beginning of the trailer and as i said the tunnel/locker room scenes looked completely different to the gameplay scenes. If you can`t see that than I don`t know
I played NFG on PS5 and I'm fairly sure the "souped up" graphics in the trailer - the pitch shots and training scenes certainly - were there in NFG. I saw nothing different in the trailer, I really didn't.Those dont look that bad but nope, they dont look any different, nor next gen.
I'm not even against this, IF it makes it a real slog to get the best players. I want to be back in the days where everyone had "white ball" squads and you really had to get your strategy right to win. Every game was different.
Kinda funny all you do is also just speculation at this point but in a negative way so you are no different to people that do positive speculation.Those dont look that bad but nope, they dont look any different, nor next gen.
I played NFG on PS5 and I'm fairly sure the "souped up" graphics in the trailer - the pitch shots and training scenes certainly - were there in NFG. I saw nothing different in the trailer, I really didn't.
Dones this mean they removed the gacha element. I will be able to buy exactly the player i want instead of being rendom? This would be big if true.
Who is twisting which of Konami's answers into negatives?If they hadn't made this lil twitter thread with some answers some dudes would be still complaining, now they do that and people try to twist that into negatives.
What speculation? There is an official trailer. If this looks next gen to you, then we dont have to argue about anything. To me it looks like PES2021 even kinda worse considering 2 years have passed since PES2020 (which is the same game as 2021).Kinda funny all you do is also just speculation at this point but in a negative way so you are no different to people that do positive speculation.
The stadiums in the beginning of the trailer and as i said the tunnel/locker room scenes looked completely different to the gameplay scenes. If you can`t see that than I don`t know
Looks like it could easily be the same game to me, the difference is the level of detail gets scaled down in gameplay cam, the difference is fairly jarring but it's not console > mobile jarring, anyone who has seen a mobile game knows that is not mobile footage. Maybe also some volumetric lighting in the cut scenes that contributes to the difference, as well as increased shadow detail (in gameplay cam the shadows are practically invisible). I really think people have fooled themselves into thinking that the trailer showed different games and that this supported what the Reddit LARPer was saying, but it never did.
Yes, many people here expect that the so-called "next gen" will become a miracle and the version will be something more than what we saw but the truth is that .. it is! What's in the trailer is the BEST we'll get. PS3 graphics with slightly higher resolution. No dynamic life like hair as FIFA, without dynamic and realistic kits fabric, without any emotions in dynamic situations, without sweat, without rich off the ball player animations that will make the game look closer to real football , without anything more typical for the next-gen consoles, except maybe the dynamic weather and lighting. I hope I am wrong.I played NFG on PS5 and I'm fairly sure the "souped up" graphics in the trailer - the pitch shots and training scenes certainly - were there in NFG. I saw nothing different in the trailer, I really didn't.