Chelsea FC thread (Champions!)

[T Butcher fan]

So let me get this straight.....there are Combat 18 banners at Stamford Bridge? That is what you're saying?
Are you just winding me up, or is this honestly what you believe?

No, I asked you had you seen them.

Theres a thread in the editing forum about the pro nazi banner at the madrid stadium which is in the game.

The bloke who did the patch posted a thread about why it was there.

Mr Coopz then posted that he saw some funny looking banners at the bridge which another member confirmed are combat 18 banners.

So applying the same train of thought as the madrid banners (the patcher put them in cos they are there) I asked you, as a chelsea fan, have you seen them.

Sorry mate, just getting a bit wound up about all of this. The only banners I've seen at Chelsea are the ones the kids put up with England flags and Zola's name etc. If there were flags there that said 'Combat 18', they would be taken down immediately.

If there is some sort of hidden reference to Combat 18 in these flags, then I wouldn't be able to spot what it is. (But I will have a good look on Saturday)

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

Sorry mate, just getting a bit wound up about all of this. The only banners I've seen at Chelsea are the ones the kids put up with England flags and Zola's name etc. If there were flags there that said 'Combat 18', they would be taken down immediately.
If there is some sort of hidden reference to Combat 18 in these flags, then I wouldn't be able to spot what it is. (But I will have a good look on Saturday)

Like I said mate im not having a go at you, just curious and I thought rather than take someone elses view, who better to ask than a match going supporter.

A club cannot help who supports them, like I said im amazed at the explicit nature of the right wing support of Real Madrid and but in their case also the club for allowing banners of the the sort to be put up in full view, its may have changed its attire but believe me from experience Racism has not gone anywhere its very much alive and well in european football.

 

[T Butcher fan]

Like I said mate im not having a go at you, just curious and I thought rather than take someone elses view, who better to ask than a match going supporter.

A club cannot help who supports them, like I said im amazed at the explicit nature of the right wing support of Real Madrid and but in theri case also the club for allowing banners of the the sort to be put up in full view, its may have changed its attire but believe me from expereince its very much alive and well in european football.

Well, I guess we won't know until Saturday, but I would be shocked if I saw a combat 18 flag at the Bridge. About a third of the crowd nowadays is women and children, and people get thrown out for swearing or pulling wanker signs - I haven't heard rascist abuse there for at least 5 years (except against the French) which is why I'd be surprised if these things are still ongoing.

What do these flags look like in the game? Are they in WE7 or just the patch?

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

What do these flags look like in the game? Are they in WE7 or just the patch?

Wont know that till I next play, one of those things that you dont notice till someone points it out, it's on Dr Xrays patch.

Im at work maybe someone else can post a pic of it, in the thread in the editing forum there's only a pic of the Madrid one.

 

[Misfit]

it is only in the patch.dr x-ray's explanation for the madrid one was that he was just tryin to make the stadium look as real as possible.i would guess the same thing for stamford bridge so there must be that flag somewhere round.best askin the doc though......

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

it is only in the patch.dr x-ray's explanation for the madrid one was that he was just tryin to make the stadium look as real as possible.i would guess the same thing for stamford bridge so there must be that flag somewhere round.best askin the doc though......

Thats what I was thinking, but didnt want to just assume.

Its not just the bridge though its showing its ugly head everywhere (again) its never really left europe but when The Prem got the Sky money clubs had to clean up there acts an awful lot but the groups just moved to the lower leagues and obviously still follow England around.

 

[T Butcher fan]

it is only in the patch.dr x-ray's explanation for the madrid one was that he was just tryin to make the stadium look as real as possible.i would guess the same thing for stamford bridge so there must be that flag somewhere round.best askin the doc though......

Thats what I was thinking, but didnt want to just assume.

Its not just the bridge though its showing its ugly head everywhere (again) its never really left europe but when The Prem got the Sky money clubs had to clean up there acts an awful lot but the groups just moved to the lower leagues and obviously still follow England around.

I've just seen the one at Real Madrid with the skull and cross bones and I can't say I've noticed anything like that - I can't make out what it says either, though. As I said before, they're always either England flags that kids have made, or blue flags with the old crest on them.

But I'll look on Saturday.

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

I've just seen the one at Real Madrid with the skull and cross bones and I can't say I've noticed anything like that - I can't make out what it says either, though. As I said before, they're always either England flags that kids have made, or blue flags with the old crest on them.
But I'll look on Saturday.

The ones at Real are pro-nazi, not sure what a C18 flag will look like, i'll try and get someone to post up the ingame pic, its more than likely not gonna be as explicit as the Real one because like you said, it'd get thrown out (and the people that put it up).

Till Saturday then.....

Right enough of this heavy sh*t!!!

Thank f*ck proper footy is back this weekend, I hate these international breaks especially when the season has barely started.

Oh aswell what have the london press made of the Kenyon signing (lol) the tabloid press have had a field day (LMAO) and are (once again, for a change) shouting about the falling of Manchester United.

 

[T Butcher fan]

I've just seen the one at Real Madrid with the skull and cross bones and I can't say I've noticed anything like that - I can't make out what it says either, though. As I said before, they're always either England flags that kids have made, or blue flags with the old crest on them.
But I'll look on Saturday.

The ones at Real are pro-nazi, not sure what a C18 flag will look like, i'll try and get someone to post up the ingame pic, its more than likely not gonna be as explicit as the Real one because like you said, it'd get thrown out (and the people that put it up).

Till Saturday then.....

Right enough of this heavy sh*t!!!

Thank f*ck proper footy is back this weekend, I hate these international breaks especially when the season has barely started.

Agreed. What makes International week worse is that it is filled with scrappy football against East European tractor farmers. (reminds me of our UEFA adventures)

Also the added bonus of having any Chelsea players slagged off for their performances the next morning.

Arsene Wenger is right, all internationals should be played in a two month period after the season had finished. What do Ranieri, Fergie and Wenger do in the international weeks?

Which keeps me on topic nicely - anyone see Ranieri's performance as a pundit in the Wales Italy game?

I saw bit's and bobs, but I don't think his English is good enough to really make any sense.

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

Agreed. What makes International week worse is that it is filled with scrappy football against East European tractor farmers. (reminds me of our UEFA adventures)

Also the added bonus of having any Chelsea players slagged off for their performances the next morning.

Arsene Wenger is right, all internationals should be played in a two month period after the season had finished. What do Ranieri, Fergie and Wenger do in the international weeks?

Which keeps me on topic nicely - anyone see Ranieri's performance as a pundit in the Wales Italy game?

I saw bit's and bobs, but I don't think his English is good enough to really make any sense.

Ranieri is quality, his pre/post march comments are class, the game needs a few more in that mold IMO. Didnt know he was a pundit aswell though.

Not sure if they should all be played in the two months after cos when would the players get rest?

But they do need to review the international scene cos to me most of its a joke nowadays and pales in comparrison to some of the stronger domestic leagues in terms of players, quality of football etc.

 

[T Butcher fan]

Oh aswell what have the london press made of the Kenyon signing (lol) the tabloid press have had a field day (LMAO) and are (once again, for a change) shouting about the falling of Manchester United.

I'll have a look at The Standard tonight (which is mostly about Man U anyway :roll: ). I only read the Times and basically the view is that we're setting up to become the new Microsoft of football.

It's pretty sad news, but then you have to balance it with the fact that we were brassic a couple of months ago (although not likely to go bust) - if Roman wants to go down this path to make back some of the money he's spent, than so be it. I won't be buying any of it though!

I don't know what affect it will have on Man U - there's less TV money coming in from next year, so you'll need to look for a new venture to keep it coming in.

The difference is, there are only a few world class footballers in the world, there are lot's of good business men. Shouldn't think it will affect you in the long run, unless there are problems with the grumpy scot!

 

[T Butcher fan]

Not sure if they should all be played in the two months after cos when would the players get rest?

If you take Internationals out of the calendar, the season would finish in early April. Internationals until early June - So players would be able to get about a month and half off before pre-season (poor lambs :roll: )

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

Oh aswell what have the london press made of the Kenyon signing (lol) the tabloid press have had a field day (LMAO) and are (once again, for a change) shouting about the falling of Manchester United.

I'll have a look at The Standard tonight (which is mostly about Man U anyway :roll: ). I only read the Times and basically the view is that we're setting up to become the new Microsoft of football.

It's pretty sad news, but then you have to balance it with the fact that we were brassic a couple of months ago (although not likely to go bust) - if Roman wants to go down this path to make back some of the money he's spent, than so be it. I won't be buying any of it though!

I don't know what affect it will have on Man U - there's less TV money coming in from next year, so you'll need to look for a new venture to keep it coming in.

The difference is, there are only a few world class footballers in the world, there are lot's of good business men. Shouldn't think it will affect you in the long run, unless there are problems with the grumpy scot!

Nah it'll have little bearing on us, the deals he did are all in the can, and we we're already huge before his arrival, it wont be as easy selling the Chelsea brand until they have success on the field but its a challenge for him which is why he's took it (aswell as the salary of course) Aslong as you keep him away from dealing with transfers you'll be okay.

 

[T Butcher fan]

Nah it'll have little bearing on us, the deals he did are all in the can, and we we're already huge before his arrival, it wont be as easy selling the Chelsea brand until they have success on the field but its a challenge for him which is why he's took it (aswell as the salary of course) Aslong as you keep him away from dealing with transfers you'll be okay.

I think Roman will have Zahiyi (sp?) do all the transfers while Kenyon does the business deals.

I can't think what interest anyone would have in us until we actually win a trophy, and who knows when that will be!

 

[Anonymous]

Agreed. What makes International week worse is that it is filled with scrappy football against East European tractor farmers. (reminds me of our UEFA adventures)

Also the added bonus of having any Chelsea players slagged off for their performances the next morning.

Arsene Wenger is right, all internationals should be played in a two month period after the season had finished. What do Ranieri, Fergie and Wenger do in the international weeks?

Which keeps me on topic nicely - anyone see Ranieri's performance as a pundit in the Wales Italy game?

I saw bit's and bobs, but I don't think his English is good enough to really make any sense.

Ranieri is quality, his pre/post march comments are class, the game needs a few more in that mold IMO. Didnt know he was a pundit aswell though.

Not sure if they should all be played in the two months after cos when would the players get rest?

But they do need to review the international scene cos to me most of its a joke nowadays and pales in comparrison to some of the stronger domestic leagues in terms of players, quality of football etc.

Yeah, i agree Ranieri is indeed class, even when his team loses he never moans. You've gotta love him. :mrgreen:

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

I think Roman will have Zahiyi (sp?) do all the transfers while Kenyon does the business deals.
I can't think what interest anyone would have in us until we actually win a trophy, and who knows when that will be!

Yeah Zahavi is sh*t hot, from what ive heard, in football terms he's a very powerful man.

Well it looks like The Russian is in it for the long term as he is now seeking avenues to recoup the money he's pumping into the club, and cuddly pete will no doubt find ways for him to do this....

Hhhmmm its all shaping up nicely....

MegaStores, out of town supporters, over priced players, huge wage bill...

Ken Bates wasnt lying when he said he wanted Chelsea to be the Man United of the south

Oh and dont be suprised if cuddly pete comes out and states he's a lifelong chelsea fan and that his dad took him to the bridge in 55 when you won the league.

He got us with the same sh*t, put it this way he's bluer than you think

 

[T Butcher fan]

So I've heard. But as with anything in football these days, it doesn't matter who you support.
All footballers supported a team when they were kids, very few actually ever play for their heroes but it doesn't stop them being good at their jobs. Then you have die hard supporters who become Chairman like Ridsdale.

Give me a billionaire Russian anyday!

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

So I've heard. But as with anything in football these days, it doesn't matter who you support.
All footballers supported a team when they were kids, very few actually ever play for their heroes but it doesn't stop them being good at their jobs. Then you have die hard supporters who become Chairman like Ridsdale.

Give me a billionaire Russian anyday!

Oh dont get me wrong im not saying it will effect his proffesional judgment but he used certain things to gain a foothold with United supporters.

ya see what alot of people dont give us (supporters) credit for is that we are not happy with alot of things that have happened with Our Club over the years and we have SU Shareholders United so takeovers etc cannot happen without a fight, the relationship between the supporters and boardroom was extremely poor so Kenyon was bought in to not only improve the business but to link the business with the match going supporters, so he really laid it on thick about "being one of us" we had suspicions cos us Mancs are like that, and they have been justified.

 

[T Butcher fan]

Oh dont get me wrong im not saying it will effect his proffesional judgment but he used certain things to gain a foothold with United supporters.

ya see what alot of people dont give us (supporters) credit for is that we are not happy with alot of things that have happened with Our Club over the years and we have SU Shareholders United so takeovers etc cannot happen without a fight, the relationship between the supporters and boardroom was extremely poor so Kenyon was bought in to not only improve the business but to link the business with the match going supporters, so he really laid it on thick about "being one of us" we had suspicions cos us Mancs are like that, and they have been justified.

Well, hopefully his activities and mine won't co-incide much. We're already expecting to bring out about 15 different kits next season, a long with all manner of of tat for the far East. It's a wonder that people over there don't get fed up with English teams (and Real) going over there with their hands out.

Hopefully he will improve the quality of our press conferences though. Did he write program notes? I used to love Hutchison's because he used to talk about world football and new regulations and all that. The big picture - Birch was always on about how he was charging us such and such for the air we breathe at the stadium, but how he didn't like doing it etc.

Hopefully Kenyon can write a decent column!

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

Hopefully Kenyon can write a decent column!

LOL!!

Im sure he's been employed for that very thing, I can see it now on his CV for his new six figure salary....

Help break £303mill Nike Deal
Writes a great column.

Pete come back all is forgiven

 

[faiers]

sorry to bring this up again but imo van is right about racism being more of an issue at chelsea than at any other premiership club, atleast with my own experiences. to be honest iv heard racist chants when theyv been playing on tv and not just at games and i cant ever remeber hearing that whilst watching another premiership team. then you get people like ken bates saying the spurs fans calling themselves yidos is racist which imo properly takes the piss. especially consdering chelsea fans tried to use it as a derogetry term in the first place. sorry to rant.

i know its not half as bad as some sets of fans abroad that are openly racist and loudly boo black players etc but imo it is the only premiership club where racism seems to be present beyond more than a minority.

 

[T Butcher fan]

sorry to bring this up again but imo van is right about racism being more of an issue at chelsea than at any other premiership club, atleast with my own experiences. to be honest iv heard racist chants when theyv been playing on tv and not just at games and i cant ever remeber hearing that whilst watching another premiership team. then you get people like ken bates saying the spurs fans calling themselves yidos is racist which imo properly takes the piss. especially consdering chelsea fans tried to use it as a derogetry term in the first place. sorry to rant.

i know its not half as bad as some sets of fans abroad that are openly racist and loudly boo black players etc but imo it is the only premiership club where racism seems to be present beyond more than a minority.

Faiers, I've been to a lot of grounds around the country, and Chelsea is nowhere near the worst in the Premiership, never mind the country. I would invite all of you to come down to the Bridge and see what's its really like.

No offence to either of you, but your arguments are based on things you've heard from other people or what you think you can hear off the telly. I'm not saying Chelsea fans are all sweetness and light, but the way you to describe the club, it sounds like we are stuck in the middle ages and anyone who's been there can tell you that that is just plain wrong.

I have been watching Chelsea for more than 20 years, I've seen them all over the country and in Europe and I get tired of having to defend the club when they have cleaned up their act immeasurably, while many get away with murder.

Now, hopefully you'll get some testimony from other Chelsea fans so you can see that it isn't just me. (If anyone is still reading, that is!)

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

What was the news on Kenyon darn sarf last nite T??

I'd never be bothered about Executives changing jobs as it doesnt effect what goes on the pitch, but im curious about this one cos of the ways its happened.

Im sure chelsea would've known this, but on leaving United he loses his place on the G14 summit and another post in European football, I understand Chelsea are seeking to gain a foothold in these groups as its where the really important issues are decided, but as all clubs must vote in other members United could block them entering.

 

[T Butcher fan]

What was the news on Kenyon darn sarf last nite T??

I'd never be bothered about Executives changing jobs as it doesnt effect what goes on the pitch, but im curious about this one cos of the ways its happened.

Im sure chelsea would've known this, but on leaving United he loses his place on the G14 summit and another post in European football, I understand Chelsea are seeking to gain a foothold in these groups as its where the really important issues are decided, but as all clubs must vote in other members United could block them entering.

Not much to be honest, it was more about Birch being peed off that his job has gone. I hope we keep him, he's a good money man. As Kenyon can't work for us till February, we might be in a bit of a tricky spot.

The G14 is what it's all about - we are on the waiting list, but until we win something and get some plastic fans under our belt I can't see us getting in. It's all about TV rights unfortunately (or fortunately!) so it'll be a while yet. I don't think Man Utd would blackball us as the two clubs have got on quite well (until Monday) - much more likely to be the toe-rags at Highbury.

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

Not much to be honest, it was more about Birch being peed off that his job has gone. I hope we keep him, he's a good money man. As Kenyon can't work for us till February, we might be in a bit of a tricky spot.

The G14 is what it's all about - we are on the waiting list, but until we win something and get some plastic fans under our belt I can't see us getting in. It's all about TV rights unfortunately (or fortunately!) so it'll be a while yet. I don't think Man Utd would blackball us as the two clubs have got on quite well (until Monday) - much more likely to be the toe-rags at Highbury.

I read that Birch was getting a not only fat pay-off but will remain in some capacity.

I think United are waiting for assurances of Kenyon as to not ruin the relationship between the clubs, i hope it doesnt get ugly gos that just detracts from the football side of things, but I cant see why there will be problems, it'll all come out in the wash.

TBH although curious im a bit fed up with it all, I just wanna watch some football now, im going tonite actually but that doesnt count as football for me .

 

[T Butcher fan]

I read that Birch was getting a not only fat pay-off but will remain in some capacity.

I think United are waiting for assurances of Kenyon as to not ruin the relationship between the clubs, i hope it doesnt get ugly gos that just detracts from the football side of things, but I cant see why there will be problems, it'll all come out in the wash.

TBH although curious im a bit fed up with it all, I just wanna watch some football now, im going tonite actually but that doesnt count as football for me .

His contract was ring fenced from the start, basically he was always going to get the full value of his contract paid to him no matter when he left (which is odd) but it leads to a tricky situation with the FA. He's good mates with Palios so I don't want the FA making trouble for us.

Kenyon has a confidentiality clause and I think they are discussing how to keep that, and let him join Chelsea early as possible. That little meeting is pretty important.

Only a few days to go now! I'm actually going to the golf range tonight instead of watching the game, I just can't watch England anymore. Looking forward to the Spurs game, hopefully my first proper glimpses of Makelele and Crespo!

 

[Professor Nutmeg]

Anyone else hear about Fergie supposedly turning down a move to Chelsea this summer? I personally wouldn't have wanted him.

Story here

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

Anyone else hear about Fergie supposedly turning down a move to Chelsea this summer? I personally wouldn't have wanted him.

Story here

Yeah I heard that, aswell Real sounded him out to replace Vincent (apparently) he'd never leave United anyway.

I find it hard to beleive that you wouldnt have welcomed one of the most succesful Managers the game has seen, the "never say die" attitude that he instills in his team is something that Chelsea have been lacking since their experiments with various managers, okay tactically he isnt up there with your Lippi's Capello etc but he has the midas touch mate, anyway it didnt happen (thank f*ck ) loyalty actually means something to Fergie, he's the last of a dying breed.

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

Romans not finished yet....

Red to join Chelsea

United mascot Fred theRed is set to complete a move to Chelsea, following the same route as Juan Sebastian Veron and former chief executive, Peter Kenyon.

It is believed that Chelsea see theRed as an important tool in rebranding the club's image from one that has done close to nothing ever, into what despot Ken Bates once described as the 'Man United of the South'.

Nine-year old Fred is said to have never forgiven staff at United who allowed Clayton Blackmore to molest him on his debut against Coventry in 1994.

Chelsea's departing match day stuffed novelty lion is believed to be on his way to Stoke, where he will team up with two giant hippos who are known to watch most games from the main stand.

United fans claim to be 'not arsed' about theRed's departure although it is believed that Chelsea officials are in negotiations with Peter Boyle to bring him to Stamford Bridge for an undisclosed fee.

 

[Vannizzlefashizzal]

Red Buys Red

Roman Abramovich will nause Reds again today - he's going to buy our entire fan base for Chelsea. Realising that the Stamford Bridge regulars are a bit goony and completely out of place on the Kings Road, Abramovitch has had his £900 billion bid for every Red accepted by David Gill.

Gill will break the news today, before informing the stock market next week.

United fans will be compensated according to the number of games attended. Fans who go to every match will get a grand, people who get to home games £500 and those clowns who describe themselves as "being huge Man U fans who dream of one day visiting the Theatre of Dreams" a cockle. That's a tenner for those not yet used to the cockney rhyming slang that they'll have to learn.

Abramovich will provide free monkey buses to all matches and he'll waive the usual £49 ticket price that he charges us. United fan's representative Mark Longden said: "Everyman has his price and mine is two pints of Stella so I'm delighted to be offered a grand. I'm going to put five stone on and perfect the Guildford accent - then nobody will notice any difference between me and a normal Chelsea fan."

David Beckham will be releasing another autobiography on the subject next week.

Will the revolution ever end?? :mrgreen:

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